as secondclass said

boring and annoying
while you don't deserve to get perma'd, necessarily, i wouldn't mind if you just left

or were removed

When it comes to having stupid opinions, when it comes to having false ideas, and when it comes to having incorrect viewpoints, I'm hard-pressed during my weary travels across the Internet to find anything that could feasibly match the pure evil, sheer insanity, and sky-rending idiocy of the "philosophy" known as moral nihilism. I have to use "philosophy" in quotation marks, too, because the word itself (derived, of course, from the Greek philosophia) is supposed to mean "love of wisdom", but any individuals who describe themselves as nihilists could never love wisdom. If they loved wisdom, they would have to concede that life isn't meaningless, and that there are logical imperatives to be fulfilled in the universe--but that would be inconvenient, so they hate wisdom. If they could, they would take wisdom and smash it, because to have wisdom would be to acknowledge that there is indeed value in the universe.

A nihilist is someone who doesn't believe there is any value in the universe. Common mantras include, but are not limited to, "life is meaningless," or "life has no meaning." Of course, life having no meaning entails the lack of concepts such as consequence, or the necessary result or effect of a negative action or cause. There is no such thing as a "crime" or "moral transgression" to a nihilist. You could torture five or ten or a hundred people, however many you want, for no good reason, and there would be no "moral" repercussions involved. You'll get imprisoned, sure, but to a nihilist, we're dealing with notions of intrinsic negative value. That is to say, to a nihilist, even though you'll get punished undoubtedly for your actions as a murderer, that doesn't mean there's anything intrinsically wrong with torturing someone. It doesn't matter if you don't have a good cause.

Most people who claim to be nihilists that I've spoken to are no older than twenty, so, more than likely, not a single one of them has underwent any real suffering in their lives. None of them have had cancer, none of them have had their limbs crushed, and none of them have died. They have no concept of how bad life can really get, and they're going to make the oh-so-dubious claim that none of it matters.

Next time you meet a nihilist, ask him if he'd appreciate it if you shoved a nail directly into his eyeball. They're going to say no. If you ask them why, they'll probably respond with a statement that establishes the existence, involvement, and the pertinence of the intensely negative sensation of pain. It would hurt a lot if you stabbed their eye with a nail, so they'd rather not be stabbed in the eye with a nail. It all seems very agreeable, until you ask them about other people.

You see, nihilism is often closely knit with a wide variety of other garbage philosophies, such as hedonism, rational egoism, and even solipsism. If one makes the argument that nothing in the universe matters, it's much easier, then, to act as though the self is of utmost importance, because your self is the only thing you know to exist. Your existence, your sensations, are all you are capable of experiencing, so the logical statement being made is that there is nothing else in the universe worth caring about. I call this "drain empathy", or the absence of all acknowledgement towards the feelings of other sentient beings, and this is, irreconcilably, the most evil philosophy that I can think of, bereft of all decency.

You ask that same nihilist, after establishing that he doesn't want to have nails in his eye (because it's painful), if he would go out of his way to prevent his eyes from ever being stabbed, and he says yes. Here's where it gets fun. Ask him how he would feel if someone else--be it a friend, a family member, or some random person--gets stabbed in the eye.

You might get responses like:

- Indifference. The person getting stabbed in the eye has nothing to do with me; therefore, I have no reason to care. It's his problem, not mine. Why should I let someone else's pain and suffering affect me in any way?

Fortunately, this is the more exceedingly rare of the two. Clearly, this person is insane--as is anyone who is unable to realize that one's own comfort has no bearing on the comfort of others, and that just because you may be comfortable does not mean that the idea of other's discomfort shouldn't give you pause.

The other, more common, response (which is really not much better):

- Indifference. Sure, it would be horrible--I know this, because I wouldn't want it to happen to me--and if given the opportunity to prevent it, I would most certainly take it. I wouldn't take it because getting stabbed in the eye is an intrinsic bad, though. I would only take it because I would personally feel bad if I didn't.

This is stupid and evil, for different, yet more complex, reasons. While this is obviously an exaggerated paraphrase, most garden-variety nihilists will take this route instead. While claiming that there is no intrinsic value, they'll also claim at the same time that, just because nothing has any meaning, doesn't mean that they still don't have emotions, and they'll function based on those emotions. This is certifiably retarded, for reasons that are obvious to me, but perhaps aren't for other people.

This version of nihilism is just textbook selfishness--doing good deeds for selfish reasons, in my opinion, almost negates the good deed itself. In a life-threatening situation, would you rather be spared by a kind individual who genuinely cares about your well-being, or by someone who's only in it for the fame and fortune? Or by someone who only did it because they'd feel bad if they didn't--and couldn't actually give a damn about you?

But operating on one's emotions alone isn't just inconsiderate--it's also inefficient and dangerous. An emotionally-driven individual is more likely to help a close relative or friend than they are an entire group of people. It's this type of mindset that feeds into our addictive personalities even further. You start doing good deeds not because they're the right thing to do, but because they make you feel good--and you'll start coming up with strategies to maximize your own happiness with the lowest possible effort--that's called inefficiency. The danger comes from the strain it'll inevitably place on our relationships with fellow human beings.

Most people don't like being "accused" of being selfish--but indeed, some nihilists embrace selfishness. A number of them ask insipid questions like "What's so bad about being selfish, anyway?"

The obvious answer, of course, is that there are a lot more people out there than you. Anyone who honestly believes that the self is the most important thing in one's own "personal universe" should be schlepped off of the goddamn planet, because that is just too stupid for words. If you wouldn't want something to happen to you, because it would incur huge amounts of pain and suffering for you, then you shouldn't want anyone to experience pain and suffering. Not because "it'll make you feel good," either, but because it's the logical standpoint to make.

The reason nihilists are the most intellectually bankrupt people there are is because they answer incorrectly one of the biggest and most important questions in the universe. If you can't figure out that the existence of suffering creates huge ethical responsibilities for us on this planet, then I can only wish the worst for you. I hope a pack of tigers maul you to death--or your family--and then I want to hear you say that suffering doesn't matter.

I want every nihilist--every person who claims that life doesn't matter, suffering has no meaning--every person who looks at events like the Holocaust, the Crusades, the Dark Ages, the plagues, the floods, the earthquakes, the anguish, the depression, the horror, every significant other who's ever died of cancer, every pet that's ever been run over, every disease that's ever been endured, takes a look at all of that horror and says, "None of it matters," I want every single nihilist who says that to be rounded up and shot. There's no excuse for this type of person to be a part of a nation that considers itself civilized, and they don't think anything matters anyway.

I mean, they've basically given the universe consent to torture them if they say nothing matters, in my opinion.
So they should get the absolute worst that life has to offer. It only makes sense.

I made lists. Of everything. Usually of things in video games. Like, the precise number of Goombas/Koopa Troopas/whatever in each level of Super Mario Bros.

Just so that I could have the information.

I mean, I did a lot of weird shit, but that comes to mind in particular, because I still make lists from time to time...

http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=23291.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=30738.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=7025.0

looks boring as fuck

Quote from: Verbatim on June 21, 2015, 10:37:05 PM

Quote from: Lebron James on June 21, 2015, 10:32:52 PM

There's something in the background of the picture OP

you should look out

i like the juxtaposition of your username and your avatar

I like YOU ~~~

i don't

the only thing i like is precisely what i just said that i liked
nothing more

you owning a cat

scares me

What's there to talk about?

^
this

however, this event did indeed inspire a debate between my parents and my sister the other day

my parents both think we should all just give everyone a gun, making the world an "even playing field"
and my sister thinks they're crazy

it was an interesting discussion

iPhones bruh

They like to "help" with autocorrect. For example I just had to fight my phone to keep autocorrect as autocorrect instead of "aitocorrect".

If I don't notice the change it gets through.

I know you're eager to try and one up me and all, but really this isn't anything to get excited about.

lol mad cuz rekt

that wasn't terribly cringey, OP

kid's just really weird and annoying

Sorry, I meant the Next Generation films.

I only know to avoid the films.

this is actually not a NIN song at all, but it sounds cool

i liked the first one, but it just got so boring

I don't think anyone says racism is dead.