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You have a poor understanding of the progression of a conversation.

Not everything I say is going to be directly purposed to contrast things you say.
your statement was blatantly purposed to contradict my relative privation claim

you're arguing that relative privation doesn't apply here because the UN has limited resources

i'm saying that's irrelevant, and it's STILL a fallacy of relative privation

14942
Verb has yet to realize that calling relative privation on this doesn't actually apply.
maybe you don't know this, but merely stating that "it doesn't apply" does not mean that it doesn't apply

14943
I merely explained the validity and logical soundness of LC's points
stating that something is "sound" without giving an explanation does not count as an explanation

he has the right opinion, but he's supporting it with faulty logic

14944
(never mind the fact that you didn't actually use any fallacies correctly).
i'm not the one using fallacies--you are

either way, i explained each and every one of them, in case you're lost

14945
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The UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.
this also wouldn't be a bad point if it weren't a strawman as well

i never said they didn't have limited resources, or that they shouldn't allocate them to something more worthwhile--merely that trying to argue that something is more worthwhile than another a fallacy of relative privation regardless of whether it's true

there ARE many good reasons to be against banning hentai

this is not one of them

14946
The UN has limited resources, so how they choose to allocate those resources is always relevant to the matter at hand.

You're credibility is also on the line, because its important to discourage people from placing faith in someone who is consistently self serving or otherwise wrong.

The fallacy in your argument is that you believe that a constructive discussion on opposing viewpoints on the functions of the world government must adhere to a more logical form of discussion and not a more human one.

We do business by Robert's Rules of Order, not by the rules of a term paper.
see, the funny thing is that i actually don't think hentai should be banned under any justification

In other words, I completely agree with LC.

but that doesn't make his arguments any less fallacious LMAO

and yes, all discussion should adhere to a logical form and not a "human" one--we should stray as far from human reasoning as possible when it comes to... well, fucking anything

14947
That's my theory as well. I imagine verbatim is a shy quiet boy who mumbles to himself because he's afraid of real life conflict.

Sep7agon is his only release, besides the stop motion claymation films about sexism in a post liberation society.
how heartbroken would you be if you discovered that you were wrong

(you are, by the way)

14948
Dude, his points were were perfectly sound and guided.
the UN may be against hentai because they think it harms women and children, but i don't
i'm against it for other reasons
therefore, pretending that i agree with the UN would be a strawman argument

claiming that there are bigger problems for the UN to worry about is a fallacy of relative privation

trying to dismiss me based on my attitude towards hentai alone is an ad hominem

and finally, he seems to be under the impression that i'm committing a fallacy fallacy, but i'm not, because i never once claimed he was wrong based solely on the fact that he's making fallacious arguments--so, he's committed a fallacy fallacy fallacy

mmmmmmmm

14949
Incorrectly throwing out fallacies doesn't make you correct.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_fallacy#Fallacy_fallacy_fallacy
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Or is this another "I don't like it so therefore it's objectively wrong" episode from Verbatim?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

14950
Only not actually because there is zero evidence to suggest that sexual cartoons have any negative effect on real world women and children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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It's a non-issue that's being used to distract the public from things that actually matter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pooh-pooh

14951
I think the UNs time would be better spent trying to combat things like the underground sex slave trade going on in North America and Europe instead of trying to protect the rights of cartoon women and children.
relative privation, etc.

14952
The Flood / Re: Saw Suicide Squad 4/10
« on: August 06, 2016, 09:15:23 AM »
YouTube

14953
Gaming / Re: Pokemon Go
« on: August 06, 2016, 09:00:07 AM »
Yeah, Eevee is slowly becoming one of my least favorite Pokémon now.

14954
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 11:47:50 PM »
You are because you guys are indecisive and unsure of yourself
No, I'm not.

14955
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 11:15:20 PM »
Drivers like you who are overly concerned with every small detail are the biggest hazard on the road
They're actually not hazards at all. It's the people who don't pay any attention that are dangerous, and that's how the accident in the OP happened.

14956
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 11:04:50 PM »
You literally just pass them
Not really something to learn
Nope.

After making sure the maneuver is legal, you signal, check your mirrors, check your blindspot, make sure no one's there, fade over, speed up (which is the terrifying part), signal right, check your mirrors and blindspot again, and then fade over.

You have to do all of that. It's not just one thing you're doing. It's many things all at once, in an extremely short amount of time. It's not "literally just" anything, and you HAVE to learn how to properly do it before you can do it. Common sense.

14957
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 10:34:15 PM »
what do you mean
Stuck behind large, slow-moving vehicles without knowing how to pass them.

Like, I know the entire process of passing, but I've never actually performed one, because they terrify me.

14958
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 09:41:57 PM »
I tense up so hard whenever I have to drive near large vehicles like that.

I never learned how to pass vehicles in driver's ed, so I often find myself stuck, and it's just the worst shit ever.

14959
The Flood / Re: I don't have to pay for parking on campus
« on: August 05, 2016, 07:01:24 PM »
hell

You all right?

14960
Gaming / Re: In CE why did Cortana say Halo wasn't a weapon?
« on: August 05, 2016, 03:57:23 PM »
"This ring isn't a cudgel, you barbarian. It's something else. Something much more important."

She's basically saying it's no ordinary weapon. It's not something primitive like a cudgel.

14961
Gaming / Re: Pokemon Thread (New Sun and Moon Pokemon revealed!)
« on: August 05, 2016, 03:14:12 PM »
So whats this about there being no gyms? Don't like the sound of that.
I mean, they haven't outright stated that there won't be, but it can be inferred from the last trailer that they're trying something a little different this time. Basically, each island has a big kahuna for you to fight, and they're your effective "gym leaders" for each one.

As for the whole collect-eight-badges thing, it seems like they're doing away with that entirely. Which I like. Something new.

14962
Gaming / Re: Pokemon Thread (New Sun and Moon Pokemon revealed!)
« on: August 05, 2016, 02:20:37 PM »
So are there any alola forms you guys are particularly hoping for?

I'd love alola dragonite that's blue and alola arcanine
what are the alola forms that've been revealed?
Exeggutor
Sandshrew
Sandslash
Vulpix
Ninetales

14963
The Flood / Re: I just finished reading 1984
« on: August 05, 2016, 01:07:02 PM »
Shit book.

14964
i actually like using porygon-z in competitive

i just loathe his design

14965
porygon-z
not giving him additional -x and -y forms as alternative evolutionary branches during XY's tenure was a huge missed opportunity (to unfuck my favorite pokémon)

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-abolish corporate tax
-eliminate federal wage standards
-raise social security retirement age
These, for instance, are all solid policies with a ridiculous amount of evidence behind them.
regarding the abolishment of corp tax--for some reason, the ten minutes of google-tier research i did on the subject last night after you responded to me has done a better job of convincing me than any of your arguments made for it in the past

when you consider one of the main reasons employees aren't paid enough, it's partially because corporations are constrained so heavily by the tax--especially in america, where corp tax is the highest in the world

in other words, i've kinda warmed up to the idea

however, i'm still curious as to how you could support eliminating the FLSA and raising the retirement age--i don't see the "ridiculous" amount of evidence in support of either of those things

edit:
and by "last night" i mean this morning

FUCK i stayed up too late

14967
# of correct answers out of 91:

Trump: 24 (23.1%)
Clinton: 70 (76.9%)
Johnson: 52 (57.1%)
Stein: 84 (92.3%)

14968
With a handful of minor exceptions, notice how all of Jill Stein's positions are basically Gary Johnson's, only better.

And if they disagree on anything, it's only because Gary Johnson is an idiot who thinks it's a good idea to abolish corporate taxes and shit. So any time they disagree, Jill Stein almost always has the superior position anyway. Funny, that.

14969
The Flood / Re: Just saw kill yourself crew AMA
« on: August 04, 2016, 09:45:59 PM »
how was the "muddled plot, thinly written characters, and choppy directing"

14970
Gaming / Re: Halo 5 mega thread
« on: August 04, 2016, 07:22:04 PM »
Fucking Lemon left man

Sad!
He actually signed in for the first time in months last week. Didn't post anything.

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