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« on: October 06, 2016, 07:08:44 PM »
"The twist" was one of the most important influences on the plot of ROTJ and the entire series. Its not like it was just random and didn't go anywhere so I have no idea what the problem with it is. Just because a scene is "important for the plot" doesn't make it any less stupid and cheesy. I don't give a single fuck that it had influence on the plot. It still doesn't make any sense and was a cheap way to pull some drama in. It obviously worked, because people are easily impressed by stupid shit. If Empire were just released today, people would laugh at it. I've never understood how a movie "not standing on its own" is supposed to be a valid complaint in any serialized sequel. Is the Two Towers also bad because you need to watch Fellowship to understand it? Yes. But that's mostly because LotR sucks cock as a franchise, too. Movies should stand on their own. The fact that it's too black and white, good and bad can not only be applied to all the other SW movies but pretty much every movie ever. I can't even think of 10 movies off the top of my head where the protagonists and antagonists are all morally ambiguous grey characters. Then you seriously need to start watching some more movies, and not just what's popular. I can think of HUNDREDS of movies that have morally ambiguous characters and themes. It's not that hard to look if you've actually seen some movies in your life. The idea of being seduced by the dark side was done poorly but that's a flaw with Return not Empire. Return was the one where they should have elaborated more on Anakins fall to the dark side and have some sort of explanation for why Luke would ever want to become the emperors apprentice but that was never done. I'm not sure why you blame this on Empire though. I didn't, as I pointed out later in that post. I was criticizing the series as a whole there. I haven't heard you say anything about flaws with writing Yes, I have. characters Yes, I have. story structure Yes... I have.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 06:59:42 PM »
tbh I'm not even sure how to respond to this. In ANH there's a scene devoted to the apparent leadership of the Empire arguing the utility and necessity of the Death Star. Which had about as much plot justification as a fighting game. At no point does the audience think for even a second that the Empire is anything but evil. There's no point where you think to yourself, "Huh, they kind of have a point here." Vader's motivations and character are fleshed out thoroughly in Empire Yeah, as the generic scary bad guy he is. Or was, until the prequels came along and saved his character. No effort is made to explain the "seduction"? The entirety of the events in Dagobah explains it, and is then presented to the audience practically through Cloud City. Does it, though? Yoda: Yes, run! Yes, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice. Luke: Vader... Is the dark side stronger? Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive. Luke: But how am I to know the good side from the bad? Yoda: You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack. Luke: But tell my why I can't... Yoda: No, no! There is no "why". Thanks Yoda. So, the Dark Side is bad because it's easier and more aggressive, which is bad because it's bad. Got it. Anything else? Luke fleeing Dagobah out of fear of losing his friends, and the entire fight with Vader are a strong metaphor for the struggle. He's afraid of losing, afraid of dying, afraid of being too weak, unwilling to accept Vader as his father -- all of it is an expression of how "the dark side" relates to common fairytale themes and concepts. I'm questioning the relevance of this. None of this explains how the Dark Side of the Force is remotely seductive in any way, which is all I care about. No believably intelligent character would allow themselves to be seduced by the Dark Side. I mean, it's called the Dark Side for fuck's sake. That's about as subtle and nuanced as "THE BAD GUYS." There's no excuse.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 05:55:26 PM »
The fact people think god would even care about a race as insignificant as ours if he created the entire universe, is incredibly selfish and laughable.
I agree--I just presumed that the creationists Gatorwhatever was arguing with were Christian--or, people who do believe that God cares about them personally, as he supposedly does. What I'm saying is, even if I gave this idea the benefit of the doubt, it creates a lot of logical conundrums. Namely, the Epicurean Trilemma. I was also playing a bit of devil's advocate, because I can totally see why someone would consider natural selection to be evil.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 05:43:19 PM »
Galactic peace treaties are boring af and jar jar binks is literally the worst thing on film.
Still more interesting than anything that happened in Empire. Jar Jar is funny and entertaining.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 04:51:08 PM »
This thread is about favorites, not quality. It stopped being that when people started throwing around words like "objectively" like they always do. How do you justify the claim that 5 is the worst in the series?
I'm pressed for time right now because I have a project to finish and other things, so I'll have to come back to this later if I still care to talk about it. In short, it's boring as fuck. It does nothing to make me care about anything that's going on. The Hoth battle is one of the most excruciatingly monotonous sequences I've ever seen in a movie, and it's fucking endless. The twist, while revolutionary at the time, simply isn't anymore. It comes across like a diabolus ex machina--I think I watched a documentary that revealed Lucas basically pulled that out of his ass. And it's very apparent, because it doesn't make any logical sense--it's just there for drama--which may have worked in the 80s, but is cheesy as hell today. It also suffers in part from being too much of a predicate to ANH. In other words, it doesn't stand on its own very well. Being a Star Wars movie certainly doesn't help, either. It's a dumb fairytale with black-and-white morality--just an inherently bad concept from the word go. The bad guys are bad because they're bad, and that's it. No effort by the original films are made to let the audience understand how anyone could possibly be """seduced""" by the power of the Dark Side. Blowing up planets because "lol we're so evil gaiz, we gon conquer da unaverse!!" Hmm. Yeah. Riveting. So really, the whole OT is a pile of shit. I just hate Empire the most, because it contained so little entertainment value. At least Return has the best duel in the series--that I can say for sure. Oh, but you know what DID explore reasons for why one would join the Dark Side? The prequels.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 04:27:46 PM »
>people still unironically consider Empire to be the best star wars movie
this meme needs to die
ANH is the only one you can even make an argument that it is better. None of the others even come close.
Every single other film in the series is vastly better than Empire. Especially the prequels. ANH is only marginally better.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 04:27:02 PM »
just say "i have the most conventional possible opinion"
More like the most correct possible opinion.
If you don't understand film. I guess not all of us can have good taste, but I wish SW fans weren't so obnoxious about it.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 01:26:33 PM »
Underlined misspelled words. Circled grammatical errors.
why was the "and" incorrect?
It either needs to be capitalized because it's a new sentence, or the period needs to be made into a comma--hence why the comma is circled as well.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 01:17:07 PM »
One, two, you're the girl that I want
Three, four, five, six, seven, shit
Eight is the bullets if you say no after all this
And I just couldn't take it, you're so motherfucking gorgeous
Gorgeous, baby you're gorgeous
I just wanna drag your lifeless body to the forest
And fornicate with it, but that's because I'm in love with you. Cunt.
13330
« on: October 06, 2016, 01:06:34 PM »
First I'm hearing of this.
13331
« on: October 06, 2016, 11:37:51 AM »
Vape Nation was his magnum opus and then he kinda fell off after that.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 12:28:01 AM »
*shrug*
The moment you brought god into it, that's the moment I would fundamentally disagree. The world is just naturally cold, as is the universe. No religion can change cold hard facts on how life works.
Government is secular; religion affecting your personal views is one thing, but when you step into that office you set everything aside.
Ideally.
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« on: October 06, 2016, 12:25:32 AM »
*shrug*
The moment you brought god into it, that's the moment I would fundamentally disagree. The world is just naturally cold, as is the universe. No religion can change cold hard facts on how life works.
You don't think that if "God" (if he existed) created the universe as-is, he would be evil? Just trying to understand your disagreement.
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« on: October 05, 2016, 11:36:56 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, there is only one Cheat.
worst alt
13335
« on: October 05, 2016, 11:17:57 PM »
survival of the fittest is evil
Wat? It's how we as a human race have come to be the apex predator of the world. To say it's evil is to try and put ethics on the very fundamentals of life as we know it. The strong survive, the weak and old die. Period. End of story, whether they like it or not. Maybe not so much with humans nowadays in the basic definition of it, but the animal kingdom yes.
While survival of the fittest may not be an evil concept in and of itself, it sure is a stupid and poorly-structured one. Something only an evil or otherwise morally bankrupt person could reconcile with or consider a good idea, because there's no balance or nuance--just pain, discrimination, and waste. If such a system were instituted by God, then that would make him evil. And no one wants to believe that their god is evil. Maybe that's what they mean?
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« on: October 05, 2016, 11:07:55 PM »
Underlined misspelled words. Circled grammatical errors.
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« on: October 05, 2016, 09:31:10 PM »
What aspect of web design? Like what is the project covering?
Just the basics HTML and CSS right now. I'll be learning Java later next week.
Depending on how good I get, maybe I could help out with some site stuff. 
Java or JavaScript? JS is web and Java is for computer programming.
Oh, JS then.
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« on: October 05, 2016, 09:19:26 PM »
What aspect of web design? Like what is the project covering?
Just the basics HTML and CSS right now. I'll be learning Java later next week. Depending on how good I get, maybe I could help out with some site stuff.
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« on: October 05, 2016, 09:12:46 PM »
whats the project for
Web design. I've been hella slacking because my motivation has been at an all-time low lately. It's kinda bad. This has served as a blessing and wake-up call.
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« on: October 05, 2016, 08:55:40 PM »
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« on: October 05, 2016, 08:33:49 PM »
if 546312 is your order, why even waste time typing all that shit out
just say "i have the most conventional possible opinion"
or just say "RLM," because it's clear where you get your opinions from
13343
« on: October 05, 2016, 08:29:02 PM »
Verb why do you bother being a Debby downer in these threads? You know you don't agree with them, they know you don't agree with them. Why come in and shit all over something they enjoy? You shouldn't be caring this much with them talking about the sport. Bring that talk around when you talk about the ethics of sports.
You're helping drive it off topic, lay off will ya? I don't like baseball one bit but I don't come in here saying how much it sucks and they're all idiots for liking it.
Fair enough
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« on: October 05, 2016, 07:48:06 PM »
Nothing needs to be anything. cancer needs to be cured when's baseball ever cured cancer, ever? I can take this retarded elitist stance on literally anything anybody does for entertainment and put you down with it go RIGHT ahead
13345
« on: October 05, 2016, 07:41:18 PM »
/a/ is obviously the worst of those three boards
/co/ would be worse if the MLP containment board wasn't created which it was
13346
« on: October 05, 2016, 07:40:08 PM »
Oh fuck off dude. Baseball provides entertainment and some joy in people's lives.
Why do you pretend to be this naive?
where did i say anything naive it doesn't need to be a multi-billion dollar industry--period, and if you're THAT entertained by a bunch of men whacking balls across a field, something THAT shallow and meaningless, your IQ is probably low as fuck it's a complete waste of money, time, and everything if there were no professional industry around it, i wouldn't give a fuck--but as it stands, billions of dollars are wasted every single year on useless competitions involving leather balls--and if that doesn't piss you off, i don't know what else to say to you
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« on: October 05, 2016, 07:38:37 PM »
Verbatim was that kid that always got picked last in PE and got swirlies from upper classmen
>taking PE >swirlies actually being a thing outside of 1980s high school movies lmao
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« on: October 05, 2016, 07:30:40 PM »
It's a lot of fun to play. What's the big deal?
the fact that it's a multi-billion dollar industry that doesn't solve or cure anything and merely serves as a cheap distraction from shit that actually matters in the world
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« on: October 05, 2016, 07:27:00 PM »
fuck
im amazed this sport hasnt died yet
Yeah it's funny how great things lots of people enjoy don't die off.
"great things"
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