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The Flood / Re: Explored an abandoned church today.
« on: October 08, 2016, 05:11:01 PM »
Hey, you're not a bad photographer.

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The Flood / Re: Anime is a legitimate form of artistic expression
« on: October 08, 2016, 04:54:39 PM »

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People get scared by haunted houses?
Most people don't have autism, yes.

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The Flood / Re: Holy shit what happened to Richard Dean Anderson
« on: October 08, 2016, 02:45:14 PM »
To be honest I have no before image to compare him to. I've never seen this man in my life
You've never seen Stargate?
why would he

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Septagon / Re: Megathreads are complete fucking cancer
« on: October 08, 2016, 11:57:50 AM »
still, you post 3.6 posts per day and you're whining about activity--how fucking STUPID can you be
I mean... Posts per day isn't a great source to look for activity.
Say you post 100 times in one day and wait 100 days before your next post, it would still say you have 1 post per day.

And given how many posts there are per month overall, 3.6 per day isn't that much.
yeah i know that, but orion really doesn't post all that often is my point

imo you can't complain about a lack of activity if you do nothing to contribute anything yourself

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Septagon / Re: Megathreads are complete fucking cancer
« on: October 08, 2016, 11:32:38 AM »
is that 500 across 5 boards or just gaming? that's not a lot for one board. tragic if it's forum-wide, especially considering that most of those posts are your own.
tragic would be 10 posts

dead would be 0

500 across all boards is just fine

still, you post 3.6 posts per day and you're whining about activity--how fucking STUPID can you be

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Gaming / Re: Why can't developers compress downloads?
« on: October 08, 2016, 11:22:38 AM »
uh, welcome to the fucking 2010s guys

where have you been

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Septagon / Re: Megathreads are complete fucking cancer
« on: October 08, 2016, 11:11:14 AM »
ikr

you can't make a thread in gaming without the cunt OP from the mega saying "no post in mega thread pls"

fuck off, content cop
i too love useless clutter
no point trying to clean up a forum with barely any activity
500 posts per day on average =/= barely any activity

keep saying dumb shit

and we'd have even more activity if dumb faggots like you weren't afraid to post in megathreads

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The Flood / Re: Is this forum dead?
« on: October 08, 2016, 10:54:05 AM »
let's be overdramatic about a slight decline in activity that will inevitably get better in a week

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Septagon / Re: Megathreads are complete fucking cancer
« on: October 08, 2016, 10:34:26 AM »
ikr

you can't make a thread in gaming without the cunt OP from the mega saying "no post in mega thread pls"

fuck off, content cop
i too love useless clutter

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These are pretty great, but I can't say I've ever laughed out loud at a comic before. They're a more cerebral kind of humor.

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The Flood / Re: "A Minute To Breathe" -- Reznor, Ross and Santaoalla
« on: October 07, 2016, 07:08:26 PM »
http://www.avclub.com/article/trent-reznor-still-insists-therell-be-new-nin-year-243810

"Trent Reznor still insists there’ll be new NiN this year"

Oh.

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The Flood / Re: "A Minute To Breathe" -- Reznor, Ross and Santaoalla
« on: October 07, 2016, 06:55:47 PM »
Also, I'm pretty sure this is the "new NIN" he was tweeting about back in January. Which would be okay with me.

I was kinda hoping he would do the soundtrack for the new Quake game, but it doesn't seem like that's in the cards.

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The Flood / Re: "A Minute To Breathe" -- Reznor, Ross and Santaoalla
« on: October 07, 2016, 06:50:58 PM »
Cool stuff. I see what you mean with the AATCHB thing--which makes me happy, given that it's my favorite NIN song.

I'll watch Before the Flood just for the music. I respect Leo's environmentalism, but I question just how much he could bring to the table. We all know the world's slowly dying--what else needs to be said by a famous Hollywood actor?

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:49:39 PM »
I wouldn't consider anything I do a guilty pleasure, but feel free to judge my subcriptions.
Holy shit I hate YourMovieSucks
really?

that just makes me like him more

adam <3

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:48:11 PM »
I wouldn't consider anything I do a guilty pleasure, but feel free to judge my subcriptions.
Your subscriptions suck. I can tell because we don't have a single one in common.
yeah

he needs to subscribe to ME

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 01:19:13 PM »
theneedledrop
TheJWittz
Marriland for his Pokémon challenge runs

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 01:16:24 PM »
What's wrong with ERB?

They're stupid, that's the point
If something sucks on purpose, then it sucks.

Just because something is intentionally bad doesn't magically make it good.

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Spanish or German.
y tho
Spanish because it's piss easy and very popular; German because you already appear to have somewhat of an interest in it. Which makes things easier by default.

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The Flood / Re: just bought an ecig
« on: October 07, 2016, 11:53:51 AM »

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Gaming / Re: Pokemon Thread (New Sun and Moon Pokemon revealed!)
« on: October 07, 2016, 11:38:07 AM »
Dartrix
Vikavolt
Lurantis
Lycanroc (midnight)
Salandit
Tapu Koko or Type: Null

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The Flood / Re: the best verse in rap
« on: October 07, 2016, 12:13:01 AM »
Bitch I wanna party like Chris Farley
Shot of Hennessy spike that with some molly
Tell mommy I'm sorry God bless my soul
But life is so sublime going out like Brad Nowell
I got that Kurt Cobain type of mind-frame
Feeling like Keith Moon shrooms in my dressing room
Basquiat freestyle
Feeling like Jimi Hendrix and Anna-Nicole mouth
River Phoenix '93 VIP
With some drugged up porn hoes all around me
Like Teri Diver, Linda Wong
All in hell having orgies where the horns grow long
Cause bitch I'm Frankie Lymon, Heath Ledger
Hyped up in a jacuzzi doing that John Belushi
With Brittany Murphy, we blowing hershey
I'mma die like a rockstar
thoughts on atrocity exhibition?

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The Flood / Re: Tonight will make or break me
« on: October 07, 2016, 12:12:15 AM »
awaken my masters

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Spanish or German.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 09:13:23 PM »
That's because he is.
You really don't have to reach too hard to hate Empire. You just have to use your brain.

None of my points have remotely suggested that I'm reaching whatsoever. It's just hard for you to accept that someone could hate something as beloved as Star Wars.

Not to mention, I DID say I was pressed for time and wasn't willing to write an entire thesis explaining to you people why I don't like a shitty movie. Why should I obliged to do that? SW fans are so entitled and childlike.

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The Flood / Re: Ok, what's going on with the clowns
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:57:26 PM »
Oh, I didn't know that this was happening elsewhere.

That's fucking stupid.
that makes, like, two or three things you didn't realize

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:51:34 PM »
I'm not going to defend the movies to death; on a realistic scale (and I know I've fucked around with number ratings, and I don't really like quantifying a movie's quality), I'd give most of them a 6 or 7 out of 10 -- average (judging the movies, not their cultural impact). There are a lot of thematic and plot issues to be critiqued, but I don't think the OT even wants viewers to care about that. It's more about the few characters that are on screen, struggling through relatively personal and small conflicts (even though they span multiple planets, the same exact scenarios could be conceived of in a small town, a la spaghetti westerns). The prequels certainly do branch out from a small space drama to a much broader scale, and I think that may be specifically why you appreciate them more than the OT.
Pretty much, yeah. Make no mistake, though--with the exception of maybe TFA, I don't consider any of the Star Wars films to be especially "good." Not even the prequels--even though I'll defend them to my grave. People react with such incredulity whenever I say I like the prequels more than the the OT--but here's the thing: I don't really like them; I just think they're better. They function stronger as movies to me.

People will still disagree with that, of course, but whatever I guess.

Genuinely interested: like what?
Okay, maybe not the Force, but the established system of ethics that the Force... governs, I guess. It introduces a little bit of the moral nuance I've been wanting so much in a Star Wars movie.

You'll probably disagree with this, but out of the seven films, Kylo Ren is the only character who seems genuinely torn between the two sides. Luke was a good little boy who took a few little peeks at the Dark Side every once in awhile, but never dared to stick so much as a finger out past the divide. Anakin was seduced very quickly. He stayed evil and never looked back until the end of Return.

The way Kylo Ren acts, however, is that of a lonely confused child who doesn't understand his own convictions. He doesn't know what he's doing or who he is or anything--he was simply led astray by a greater evil (the details of which we understand very little). Much of this can be attributed to Adam Driver's performance, which in my opinion was excellent. His performance offered the more unique sense of morality than any other major character in the series.
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I'm surprised you don't take issue with the same premise of an evil organization that we're just supposed to accept; there's really no explanation for the state of the republic, the resistance, or the first order.
Yeah, TFA isn't flawless. But I have faith that those subjects will be extrapolated upon in the next two installments. And if they aren't, you can rest assured that my opinion of TFA (and the series as a whole) will be much less enthusiastic.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:09:38 PM »
Why willingly label yourself as 'TEAM EVIL'? I dunno.
Well, frankly, it's because you're not meant to think about it too hard. It's just a perfunctory label that allows the audience to know exactly who they're supposed to be rooting for before the movie even begins. It was never meant to be given this much thought.

Which is fine, if you're fine with that--but personally, I'm not.

I don't appreciate it when movies tell me not to think.

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Yeah it's simpler to follow because Star Wars started out as a simple good guy vs bad guy story, a direct homage to the old classic serials. Good guys are good, bad guys are super evil. The heroes follow the righetous path of hard work and dedicated study and training, while the villains just lust after power and being all around dicks.

I'm hoping they go further with Kylo Ren in the next episodes because he seems like he could be a really cool character who walks the line between the two. He even admitted he was being torn.

Idk I'm probably waffling.
Yeah, that's why TFA is my favorite in the series. Because despite what Turkey seems to think, it adds a lot of previously-nonexistent nuance to the Force (and again, I don't care about the EU. It's not even canon anymore).

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:02:31 PM »
That's pretty much exactly how you're supposed to feel, and is how Luke is feeling at the time. Then he goes to Cloud City, falls into the trap, gets his buddy Han captured and everyone else almost killed, gets his ass kicked and his hand cut off, and ends up falling nearly to his death -- all because he tried to rush to confront Vader out of fear and anger. Yeah it's lucky that it's a film, and protagonists generally don't die, but the point still stands that Yoda presents the hypothetical light vs dark consequences, and then Cloud City demonstrates how that actually works in the Star Wars universe.
That's still too black and white for me. I don't consider "fear" or "anger" to be inherently evil or "Dark" emotions. There's righteous anger, for example.

Harry Potter presents a beautiful example in Order of the Phoenix. After Bellatrix kills Sirius, Harry flips the fuck out and uses a Cruciatus Curse on her--which is illegal, and a curse typically used only by dark forces--but in his blind rage, he just didn't give a fuck. And as a result, his curse barely tickled her. Because in order for the curse to work to its full power, you basically have to be an evil, sadistic cunt like Bellatrix. But Harry was still able to cast it, because he had the intent to harm her--but he just wasn't quite evil enough to make it really work.

You may not like that example, but I think it's hard to deny that a series like HP handles moral matters like this with a lot more maturity and depth than Star Wars does.

Also, saying that Luke confronted Vader out of anger is fair, but "fear" seems like a big stretch. If he were scared, he wouldn't have gone to Cloud City in the first place. To me, the fact that he did shows the exact opposite. It was kinda ballsy, actually. Maybe impulsive and foolish, too.

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Is your issue with the concept in general? There are myriad examples in EU. "Seduced to the dark side" is no more than a euphemism for evil. You can't see how any character would be tempted to participate in the Empire's activities or pursue power, greed, revenge, etc. under any circumstance?
I mean, I guess I can, but it would only be a small exception of people. You know, people who wouldn't realistically have any clout with the public, unlike Palpatine. Who was democratically elected. By idiots.

Let me put it this way: I'd vote for Trump faster than I'd vote for Palpatine. That's how obviously evil he was. Yet he was still elected Supreme Chancellor. That, by far, is the dumbest thing about the prequels--but remmber: the OT set the stage for that to happen. They had to show his rise to power somehow, and how else could they have done it? It just demonstrates to me that it was never meant to be thought too hard about. You're just supposed to accept that there's an evil Empire. When you try to explain the logistics behind it, things get messy.

And yeah, I realize that the EU goes a little more in-depth on morality and expands on it quite a bit--which is all well and good, but it doesn't really lend the OT any reprieve whatsoever.

I don't agree with Mr. Plinkett on a lot of things, but I'm gonna quote him here: "What matters is the movies."

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 07:17:09 PM »
Do any of the bad guys apart from Kylo Ren ever actually refer to themselves as 'The Dark Side?'
Well, let's take a famous line from the most famous scene from the most famous character in the franchise:

"If you only knew the power of the Dark Side..."
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And my take from it was that it's not like their choosing to be evil, rather the actions they take begin to lead them down a path that eventually results to them falling.
And then being evil. Which is not how morality works--it's just an over-simplified bastardization of morality to make shit easier to follow as an audience member.
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It's seductive because it's the easy path, as Yoda said.
Easy path to what? Power? Why is it bad to take the easy route? It's never explained. We're just supposed to see a red lightsaber and think "ooh, bad guy."

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If you are just after power and power alone you're more likely to just take the quick and easy path.
Right, but what I don't understand is why that = Dark Side. Why is that considered evil?

It's so black and white, and they expect us not to question it. It's insulting.

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