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So I forgot to ask people

I mentioned that I felt most of the movie was pretty boring (though the ending was one of the most intense moments I think I've seen in any movie), but I think I know why

Rey in episode 7 was written rather... not so amazing, yes, but the actress Daisy Ridley did a fantastic job with her charisma and all that, thus making her acceptable. Plus I'm forgiving since it's the start of a trilogy, so they'll flesh her out more. Anyway, anyone else feel that the Jyn (main girl) was just... dull? Like a lot of the characters. I guess it was the direction they took since bleak, Saving Private Ryan tier kinda thing, but still. I just found it hard to care about really ANY of them, especially the other main guy Cassian Andor (especially since he straight up murders someone). I just... did not feel a thing for this guy at all.

And another thing, why did Forest Whitaker say he was tired of running, like he'd stand up to a big bad evil, when it was just a massive explosion? I'd understand it more if he was facing down a lot of Storm Troopers or something and went HAM before dying, but eh. I'm echoing too much of RLM, but the boring movie/boring characters thing is something I've really always felt.

I felt the only stand out people were Chirrut Îmwen (I am the Force guy. I actually enjoyed his mysticism in an otherwise bleak universe. Like he was the flicker of hope, a reminder of what was lost, and what could be found), Orson Krennic, and I guess the Droid. Yeah, the droid. I only felt a flicker of something when those guys actually kicked the bucket, because they at least had some pretty interesting personalities to them, even if one was just the comic relief.

The characters were definitely the most underwhelming part, yeah, but I thought Jyn was all right (it helps that she's a qt).

I think they were receptive to the Mary Sue complaints of Rey (she's not a Mary Sue but w/e) by giving Jyn a lot of obvious character flaws and having her outright make a dumb, human mistake during one part: in her stupor of seeing her father again, she failed to retrieve the hologram when she absolutely needed to.

If Device A completes in 30 minutes, Device B completes in 35 minutes, Device C1  completes in 2 hours, and Device C2 completes in 2 hours-- all else being equal-- what does that say? It's not an issue with the internet service, as it's consistent across all devices and Device C clearly has a different result than the other two. It's not a hardware issue with that particular unit, as both units of Device C have the same result.

It's not length of time that is the issue, it's length of time comparatively to other devices.

I have pretty cheap Internet; I live a cheap life. So if I were foolish enough to have an Xbox One, and I downloaded something on it, you're telling me it would be near-instant? Since PS4 downloads are so lightning fast for me, I should be able to download anything on XBL instantly. Right?

Meanwhile, it usually takes longer than 30 minutes to download anything more than 5 gigabytes on this laptop. So clearly I must be living on a different planet or something.

Care to explain?

Explain what, Christian?

It is. I have the free will to do whatever the fuck I want to do. Everybody does.

nah

I think you need to step back and look at just how much of a cult/religion anti natalism is.

no god, no dogma, no system of beliefs that must be followed except for logic/value math

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yes, which is insane, and not part of the philosophy of determinism

It seems to be.

i'm telling you that it isn't

SOME determinists may very well be religious, but i'm not

what reason would i have to bullshit about this

So why are you pushing this idea of "hard determinism"? Are you all of a sudden amoral?

i'm not amoral because even though everything is predetermined, we still experience life as though we had free will, and we can suffer intensely

it's because we suffer intensely that i'm not amoral

if we couldn't feel, or if feeling didn't matter, then yeah, i'd be a straight-up nihilist

ember's probably my favorite artist here

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>Hillary had the most faithless electors since James Madison 200 over years ago.

Every time I think she can't possibly get any more BTFO, she still keeps on getting more and more BTFO, and it's fucking amazing.

Still won the popular vote fair and square. If we weren't a shit country, that would've made her president.

Trump led everywhere but California. America is a federal nation, comprised of constitutionally sovereign states. Allowing California to strongarm the rest of the country would be ridiculous.

No it wouldn't. Why SHOULDN'T the most populous state strongarm the rest of the country?

Because America is a collection of sovereign states, as set out by the Constitution.

Then we need to fix that.

You think America should be a unitary state merely because Trump won?

Whatever it takes. And no, not just because Trump "won." The day I learned about the EC some ten years ago, I wanted it abolished. It's only time and time again that I'm provided with more reasons to.

I didn't even see the trailer or read anything about it prior to seeing it.

Best way to watch movies, tbh

This is dumb because:

- it's based entirely around your own views on sexuality and its portrayal, which I think are pretty stupid and warp this entire discussion from the start. I think they affect your ability to look at this neutrally.

I could say the exact same thing about you, right here. "This is dumb because your views on sexuality and its portrayal are pretty stupid. If you saw it my way (the correct way), you wouldn't be saying this." Do you see how useless that is?

- I never said it's not the responsibility of the parents to keep little Timmy from playing those games or that we shouldn't have some kind of rating system.

I never said that you did.

- I never said violent games make children violent.

I never said that you did. But that appears to be the argument you're trying to make, regardless, so I'll be asking you to defend yourself there.

And no, I don't consider this common sense at all.

It is, though, so... Whose problem is that?






Yours.

The US is often very prude when compared to other countries and even when compared to one of the most sexually open countries in the world like France, it still sees 70% more rapes (accounting for population). You're so eager to dismiss any suggestion of kids being influenced by exposure to violence as patently ridiculous to the point that we even have to "get real" about it, but god forbid that little Timmy sees a nipple or vagina because it's almost "common fucking sense" that it might turn him into a sexual predator.

You're twisting my words. I never said it would turn him into a sexual predator. I said it could easily turn him into a sexual deviant, which is a slippery slope in and of itself that we won't get into.

Come on Verb, you can see how ridiculous that is and how your very negative views about sexuality might play a part in why you're seeing it this way.

That doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Really. It doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Sometimes people with innate biases are right about those biases.

I don't see how watching a prostitute on the floor is a display of such REAL behavior

I didn't say it was real behavior. I said that vaginas are real. And depending on how nascent you are, you may not have even seen a vagina (and understood what you were looking at--the dangerous part) until playing this game. I'm not sure when you first learned what a vagina was, but it wasn't too early for me.

You could even argue that violence is even more life-like to little children than sex is, as they kick, push, rustle and get into fights with each other all the time as opposed to them being involved in sexual behavior.

And they do that just as well without the media influencing it. Kids get rough with each other, yes--this is also common knowledge. It has little to nothing to do with the media.

Here's a study you will brush off as biased or outdated.
Here's another.

2 seconds of Googling, dozens of articles and studies, couple days of research, and I'm to believe this isn't common knowledge. Granted, a lot of these studies focus on movies or media as a whole (and a lot of the studies have a fucking paywall obstructing them), but I'd argue "video games" are close enough to movies that they'd create similar or exacerbatory effects.

Now I suppose it's your turn to demonstrate how violent video games cause violent behavior in a similar fashion.

Probably 2 because we're that fucking stupid.

Who uses desktop icons anymore?

Me

because i like being able to start things up by pressing on buttons

Have a little respect.

you're a drunk, and this is likely why you can't think things through very well

lay off the alcohol and then have a conversation with me when your mind isn't addled

though i wouldn't be shocked if your mind wasn't constantly addled--it would explain a lot

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I like how they made the AT-AT's more into the juggernauts they're supposed to be. Hoth didn't really do them the right amount of justice.

These AT-ATs were different types. They had more armor but less firepower than the ones on Hoth.

And how were the Hoth ones not doing any justice? They were shooting those super fast snowspeeders out of the sky and destroyed that Rebel base. I think only 2 AT-ATs were destroyed in that attack whereas in Rogue One they were getting destroyed left and right.

Yeah that post had to have been sarcasm.

An x wing took out an at-at by itself. Like zero effort too.

Oh yeah

I was thinking it ate the rocket and took it like nothing, but yeah then that immediately happened. Nvm.

I don't remember how the scene went exactly, but after it ate the rocket, did it not create a big gaping weak point to be shot at?

Nope just leaves a bit of scorching, doesn't even break the gun it directly hits because it fires from it again until the X-Wing shoots it.

Meh. I'll guess we'll just have to buy the "it was a weaker model" explanation.

How can you say she won the popular vote if not even half the eligible voters voted on election day? I'll only agree to that statement only if 99.9% of eligible voters voted.

Why do you think so many people choose not to vote? Because they don't want to. Either they're not interested, they don't care about politics, they don't know enough about the candidates, they don't consider themselves qualified, they don't like democracy, or they literally cannot choose and are willfully abstaining.

Why is it a good idea to force these people who don't have an opinion to have an opinion?

Do you think that's an accurate representation of what the public wants/needs?

Masturbation never really drained anything out of me except time, which is why I stopped.

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>Hillary had the most faithless electors since James Madison 200 over years ago.

Every time I think she can't possibly get any more BTFO, she still keeps on getting more and more BTFO, and it's fucking amazing.

Still won the popular vote fair and square. If we weren't a shit country, that would've made her president.

>Still doesn't understand the electoral college

I understand it better than anyone here, which is why I want it abolished.