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Serious / Re: Canada allows warrantless cell phone searches.
« on: December 11, 2014, 03:47:04 PM »
I'm slowly losing my distaste for mass surveillance.

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Serious / Re: Is there something wrong with our culture?
« on: December 11, 2014, 03:45:18 PM »
You forgot how Millennials would rather watch personalities play videogames on Youtube than actually play the games themselves.

You should watch this http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e09-rehash#source=2b6c5ab4-d717-4e84-9143-918793a3b636:63a32034-1ea6-492d-b95b-9433e3f62f8d&position=2&sort=airdate
Not allowed in my country >.>

Fucking copyrights.

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Serious / Is there something wrong with our culture?
« on: December 11, 2014, 03:37:44 PM »
Maybe it's just me, but it feels as if our culture has become uncultured - as it were. The people we revere are the Kardashians and pop singers, and we read about their everyday occurrences in magazines and online. When we do climb the intellectual ladder, things are stifled by a STEM circlejerk and the suppression of things like aesthetics and passion.

The Enlightenment saw a burst of literature, the arts, philosophy - the humanities - which, it seems, has failed to bear any continuance. It seems that our culture is either emotionally mute or overly-rational.


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The Flood / Post High Culture
« on: December 11, 2014, 02:40:19 PM »
YouTube

Glorious.


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Serious / Re: Something I noticed about Babylon
« on: December 11, 2014, 02:36:48 PM »
What I meant was, how does that relate to values and how is that bad?
Compare, for instance, the tension between liberal and Islamic values in my own country. When you have two or more ideologies/philosophies/methodologies competing not just for political power, but moral authority too, then it's bound to get ugly.

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Serious / Re: Something I noticed about Babylon
« on: December 11, 2014, 01:59:28 PM »
Whats wrong with multiculturalism?
It can often lead to pluralism in the arena of values as opposed to just mere culture.

You can't have value pluralism like that in the general populace.

What do you mean by pluralism?
Here.

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Serious / Re: Something I noticed about Babylon
« on: December 11, 2014, 01:48:46 PM »
Whats wrong with multiculturalism?
It can often lead to pluralism in the arena of values as opposed to just mere culture.

You can't have value pluralism like that in the general populace.

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Serious / Re: Something I've never been clear on regarding Christians
« on: December 11, 2014, 01:45:35 PM »
I honestly don't think they judge Adam and Eve in that way. I'd be surprised if they actually saw them as real people - as we would view an acquaintance - instead of just semi-mythical pseudo-humans.

In saying that, if they did - and took a nuanced approach - I imagine they'd feel a degree of contempt towards Eve and pity towards Adam, with a degree of empathy for each.

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Serious / Re: I am a Nietzschean, AMA
« on: December 11, 2014, 01:09:22 PM »
What's a tl;dr of nietzche and why should people follow his philosophy?
Nietzsche essentially argued that from the decline of religion as a result of the enlightenment, it would lead first to philosophical and political pluralism (which would lead to untold conflict in the 20th Century (bear in mind he died in 1900)), and then finally to nihilism which we'd have to face.

There's a lot of his philosophy, but it essentially revolves around three focal points. The first is that there exists a natural hierarchy among individuals (not races, or nationalities) which leads to there being "higher men" or Ubermensch who would form a new aristocracy to guide humanity. The second is the idea that our current iterations of morality - namely Judeo-Christian morality - are incredibly harmful to the human condition, and promoted behaviours and emotions which were detrimental to the flourishing of humans and, in particular, higher men. Thirdly, Nietzsche thought that the legacy of the Enlightenment was extra-rational, which removed emotion and passion from a position of importance in the human character and led us to reject our aesthetic sides; in essence, he thought high culture could replace religion, and serve to unite the community under this new aristocracy.

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Serious / Re: I am a Nietzschean, AMA
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:57:06 PM »
Boy golly I sho do loves me some jargon. :^)
How else do we keep the poor and uneducated in their place?

Sorry, the socioeconomically dispositioned and the intellectually arrested.

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Serious / Re: I am a Nietzschean, AMA
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:44:53 PM »

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Serious / I am a Nietzschean, AMA
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:42:08 PM »
I know AMAs are pretty much dead in the Serious board (as they should be), but I couldn't think of any other way to set off a proper discussion about Friedrich Nietzsche. I don't consider myself an authority on him, indeed few are, but I probably know the most out of everybody here.

So, if you're interested, shoot.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:27:35 PM »
Thanks for proving my point; if the purpose of gun control was to prevent blacks for committing retributive then that means they were the ones acting people, but that wasn't the case. It was whites doing it and Gun control prevented blacks from protecting themselves
No, I didn't prove your point - I'm saying your point is irrelevant. There never would've been a black supremacy movement as substantial as the KKK purely because primal retribution will always be less organised than ideological fanaticism. I'm not saying the KKK didn't pursue racially-motivated gun control policies, I'm saying that doesn't detract from the fact that black people would've had an extraordinary capacity (which was somewhat justified) to commit violence themselves.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:13:33 PM »
If blacks were the issue at the time, then you wouldn't have seen the formation of the KKK as a white organization, but as a black organization
Sorry, what?

The Klan was founded by Confederate veterans. It has nothing to do with blacks being the problem or not. For once, it wasn't economics, it was racism. The Klan murdered freedmen and black and while Republicans because they'd upset the balance of white supremacy.

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I'd support a graded cap based on various things such as socioeconomic status.

Of course, the most cultured people would be allowed to produce the most citizens.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:05:52 PM »
The first gun laws were made to prevent freed slaves from owning guns
That was probably a good idea, at first. I know what I'd do if I were just released from bondage and had a gun.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 12:04:46 PM »
People like to complain that people to fly the Confederate battle flag are racists, yet the first gun control laws was based on racism so therefore I should be able to draw conclusions that new gun control laws bring back the times of 19th and 20th century racism and discrimination
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 11:57:49 AM »
Agreed race isn't relevant, but his comparison to discrimination of race is still valid.
I see what he means by the discrimination being unjustified. But slavery and gun control are still qualitatively different as far as I'm concerned.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 11:53:30 AM »
Gun control prevents minorities from protecting themselves in areas of high crime, where they do tend to live
That's not racist, that's just unfortunate.

I'm not even that big on gun control; it's more of a cultural issue for America to me, and if I had my way I'd actually reverse the ban on assault weapons because you're essentially correct. Handguns are where the crime is, and even then they're most often illegally obtained.

But, please, for the love of God, don't play the fucking race card.

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Serious / Re: Something I noticed about Babylon
« on: December 11, 2014, 11:47:27 AM »
I'd disagree with multiculturalism being a positive.

You got me with prostitution though - I'm down with that.

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 11:46:10 AM »

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Serious / Re: For the first time in two decades
« on: December 11, 2014, 11:40:17 AM »
Discrimination against this semi-automatic sporting rifle is no different than the discrimination of blacks less than a century ago.

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Serious / Re: FUUUTURE!!!
« on: December 11, 2014, 10:39:36 AM »
Is this type of weaponry really necessary?
Yes.

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The Flood / Re: People you can't wait to see die?
« on: December 11, 2014, 09:45:12 AM »
Everybody.

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Serious / Re: Political compass of philosophers (compared to ours)
« on: December 11, 2014, 09:40:43 AM »

You seriously need to read some Nietzsche.

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Serious / Re: Microexpression Test
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:40:19 PM »
44pc.

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Serious / Re: So that pastor that said all gay people should die...
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:35:33 PM »
Out of interest, what sort of Christian are you?

I'm hip to Luther's jive, though I attend a non-denominational church.
Good choice.

If I were a Christian, I'd be a Lutheran.

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Serious / Re: Microexpression Test
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:32:36 PM »
Before I begin, would you please approximate where you think I'll land?

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Serious / Re: So that pastor that said all gay people should die...
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:28:26 PM »
The Christians condemning him don't really deserve any credit. Although to say that Christians never condemn this sort of behaviour is stupid in the first place.

Out of interest, what sort of Christian are you?

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