Butthurt christians absolutely love to use Babylon as a symbol for things they hate (Rome, Modernity, ect) that always turn out to be better than anything they've ever accomplished.

I'd like to see some sci-fi or fantasy story where the good guys represent Babylon, and Zion are a bunch of horrible terrorists who hate everything.


Babylon.
>Wealthy
>Multicultural
>Respects all gods
>Sacred prostitution

Zion
>Poor
>Racist
>Live in constant fear of a single angry god.
>Hate women

Ima let you finish, but the Islamic Golden Age was the best period for human history

wait

isn't it the rastafari who are all about zion and babylon

Gate of Babylon.

Quote from: Raptor the Kid (24) on December 11, 2014, 01:45:52 PM

Whats wrong with multiculturalism?

It can often lead to pluralism in the arena of values as opposed to just mere culture.

You can't have value pluralism like that in the general populace.

What do you mean by pluralism?

Quote from: Raptor the Kid (24) on December 11, 2014, 01:50:09 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 11, 2014, 01:48:46 PM

Quote from: Raptor the Kid (24) on December 11, 2014, 01:45:52 PM

Whats wrong with multiculturalism?

It can often lead to pluralism in the arena of values as opposed to just mere culture.

You can't have value pluralism like that in the general populace.

What do you mean by pluralism?

Here.

-_- ...

Yes, I can google the definition. What I meant was, how does that relate to values and how is that bad?

Maybe I shoulda been more specific, but that goddamn site is my number one reason for we should be able to slap people through the internet.

Quote from: Raptor the Kid (24) on December 11, 2014, 02:05:35 PM

What I meant was, how does that relate to values and how is that bad?

Compare, for instance, the tension between liberal and Islamic values in my own country. When you have two or more ideologies/philosophies/methodologies competing not just for political power, but moral authority too, then it's bound to get ugly.

I think that's overall a good thing.

Alright, it does bring out extremism, which can result in of course death and other horrors. But it also forces cultures to question their own morales and values.
Conflict and arguing allows values to morph and change, so you aren't stuck in an isolationist rut where bad values continue on and on and on.