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Serious / Re: Never give up your guns.
« on: October 19, 2015, 10:59:45 AM »
Wait I thought Chally was in favor of gun control or ban
I think he's is in favor of some gun control measures, but nothing too drastic.

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The Flood / Re: Quest to get to the Island!
« on: October 19, 2015, 09:45:24 AM »
All lock requests have been denied, try to stay on topic.

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The Flood / Re: Flee is not my best friend
« on: October 19, 2015, 09:43:52 AM »

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 19, 2015, 08:54:27 AM »
Looks like I'll be playing some Metro first. Briefly tried my hand at Ground Zeroes earlier too.
Metro was amazing and the Russian was spot on. Quality game.
The aiming is attrocious, though. My main complaint with the game.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 19, 2015, 08:41:00 AM »
Looks like I'll be playing some Metro first. Briefly tried my hand at Ground Zeroes earlier too.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 19, 2015, 08:40:34 AM »
What's so bad about Brink? It kind of flopped big time, but it can't be that bad. Can it?
If you played ET:QW, it will be like that but a lot worse. I genuinely tried to play it with an open mind and while its not as bad as some people say it is, its UI and lack of variety brings it down. Also the AI at times can be dumb.
The original ET is one of my favorite games of all time, which is part of the reason I got Brink.
Try it and you'll know what I mean.
Definitely will.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 19, 2015, 08:29:21 AM »
What's so bad about Brink? It kind of flopped big time, but it can't be that bad. Can it?
If you played ET:QW, it will be like that but a lot worse. I genuinely tried to play it with an open mind and while its not as bad as some people say it is, its UI and lack of variety brings it down. Also the AI at times can be dumb.
The original ET is one of my favorite games of all time, which is part of the reason I got Brink.

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Serious / Re: Never give up your guns.
« on: October 19, 2015, 07:43:57 AM »
meh, 3d printers

besides, what the fuck are you gonna do against armored targets and flying death machines with your little ar-15? some fucking defense i bet you can put up against the government

turn in the guns already
The vast majority of U.S. military personnel are from southern states and hold strong conservative political beliefs. They aren't mindless drones, and you can be damn sure they wouldn't turn on U.S. citizens.
In all fairness, wouldn't that be an argument in favor of stricter gun control? The US military isn't going to turn on its own people, so holding on to guns to fight your own government when it turns into a dictatorship seems a little unnecessary.

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Serious / Re: Never give up your guns.
« on: October 19, 2015, 07:24:11 AM »
ITT: People think revolution is fought in pitched battles with Victorian era line infantry
Not that I think that, but if the US government and military would actually turn on its citizens (not that it is, but hypothetically speaking) then your guns would not allow you to overthrow the regime even by applying guerilla tactics.

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The Flood / Re: How are your midterm grades?
« on: October 18, 2015, 06:29:58 PM »
This is a strange and confusing read.

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That would never work in America because people wouldn't do it.

It also really starts to become suspicious how first it's magazine sizes, then "assault weapons", then a buyback program.
Yeah, it's unlikely that this would have much effect. The American attachment to guns runs quite deep, it seems.

Also, I'm pretty sure it were simultaneously "assault weapons" and magazine size restrictions, followed by the expiration of both and then magazine restrictions and type limits again on a state level, but that's not that important here. >_> There is a pretty clear trend though, you're right about that.

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Why would I trade a gun like an AR15 in for so much less than what it costed me new?
I reckon that making it a fellony not to comply would convince at least some people to do so.
And I reckon that kind of move would encourage people like myself to start not complying from the rooftops.
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Also, the gun culture is most definitely not the problem. Acts of violence are committed by shooters outside of the gun culture.
Lol
I admire how you try to on the one hand proclaim that it is not the gun culture partially responsible for the problems and violence stemming from holding back progress and proper gun laws that would do good, while on the other you proudly praise your own non-compliance with gun laws from the rooftops. It's exactly that "my guns trump everything, come try and take them and go to hell with scientific research, empirical data and myriads of expert opinions" mindset that is to blame for a lot of these issues.

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secondarily "ordinary" rifles.
That's a vague term.
Intentionally so. The constructed notion of "assault rifles" that seems to be based primarily on aesthetics and accessories and is often completely misused is the reason I'm sticking to vague terms and am using the quotation marks. My point was that almost 75% of all gun homicides and violent crimes are commited with handguns, followed by your typical (hunting) rifles. Those with "military features" or a full-auto setting are only used in a fraction of all gun crimes.
I would consider semi-automatics, which see use in hunting, distinctly different from single actions (bar pump actions). I haven't heard of any examples of someone breaking into public area and unloading a bolt or lever action, most of the time it seems they use pumps and semis.
Usage of single action rifles is decisively more uncommon in (mass) shootings, but they have still occured.

I'm also not really sure where we're going with this. The point of my post was simply to illustrate that only regulating "assault weapons" or rifles with "military characteristics" or those that are capable of full-auto fire would not help much, as it's the much more common and easily obtainable handguns and semi-auto rifles that are used in the vast majority of gun crimes.

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secondarily "ordinary" rifles.
That's a vague term.
Intentionally so. The constructed notion of "assault rifles" that seems to be based primarily on aesthetics and accessories and is often completely misused is the reason I'm sticking to vague terms and am using the quotation marks. My point was that almost 75% of all gun homicides and violent crimes are commited with handguns, followed by your typical (hunting) rifles. Those with "military features" or a full-auto setting are only used in a fraction of all gun crimes.

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Why would I trade a gun like an AR15 in for so much less than what it costed me new?
I reckon that making it a fellony not to comply would convince at least some people to do so.
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Also, the gun culture is most definitely not the problem. Acts of violence are committed by shooters outside of the gun culture.
The gun culture (as a whole, not just the responsible hobbyists and enthusiasts) is the problem, though. Not only is it factually incorrect to state that they don't commit act of gun violence, but they're mainly the problem in the sense that they are stopping gun regulations that would actually do some good.

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Yeah, lemme go turn in my family's rifles for a 200 dollar best buy gift card.
We'll all totally comply with that order.
It's unclear whether Clinton is advocating the buyback program to be mandatory or not. Also, pretty sure that the UK and Australian buyback paid around 400-500$ a gun (cash). Still not as much as the retail price of most, but it beats $200 gift card for all of them.

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>NRA shitting out their mouths again

I'm down with this, who the fuck needs an AK?
Going after AK's and the likes would not do all that much. These "assault weapons" only make up about a quarter of all guns used in mass shootings, and account for less than 2% of all guns in gun homicides and other violent gun crime. The real culprit are primarily handguns and secondarily "ordinary" rifles.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 04:52:45 PM »
While I appreciate all the extra suggestions, I am for now going to stick to the games on this list. I built up a bit of a backlog and want to get through these games first before I get into any new ones.

I'll continue MGS or Metro tomorrow, based on the poll.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 04:50:00 PM »
Brink and rage are absolute trash
Picked them both up for $1.99 each last week, so I doubt they'll be a terrible mispurchase.

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Clinton: US should weigh Australian-style gun buyback.
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Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has drawn the ire of the influential National Rifle Association (NRA) by saying that the United States should consider a gun buyback scheme, similar to that introduced in Australia in the late 1990s.

Clinton was asked a question about why the US did not consider a buyback scheme, as she addressed a town hall meeting  in Keene, New Hampshire, on Friday.

"Recently, Australia managed to get away, or take away tens of thousands, millions of handguns. In one year, they were all gone. Can we do that? If we can't, why can't we?" a man asked Clinton.


Inside Story: Will the US ever change its gun laws?
The question referenced the buyback policy  that Australia introduced in the wake of the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, where gunman Martin Bryant killed 35 people using a variety of guns at a historic tourist site in the island state of Tasmania.

As she answered the question at Friday's town hall meeting, Clinton said that the evidence appeared to "support" Australia's policy.

"By offering to buy back those guns, they were able to curtail the supply and set a different standard for gun purchases in the future," she said, before adding that she did not know how such a scheme could be implemented in the US.

"I do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how would it work, but certainly your example is worth looking at," she said.


Following the Port Arthur massacre, Australia banned a large range of semi-automatic and automatic weapons, and provided a 12 month firearms amnesty and compensation scheme, where 640,000 prohibited guns were bought back by the government.

The policy has been lauded as having greatly reduced the number of firearm-related homicides in Australia.

Reacting to her answer on Friday, however, the NRA came out swinging against the Democratic frontrunner, with a post on its website  saying that "the Australian and UK 'buybacks' were merely an attempt to mollify firearm owners whose property had been declared contraband and subject to seizure".

"If you own a gun now, take heed. President [Barack] Obama and now Hillary Clinton finally made clear what they're really after - national gun confiscation," the post said.

Gun control has become an election issue after a spate of recent mass shootings in the US.

Earlier this month, nine people were shot dead at the Umpqua Community College in Oregon. It came just a few months after nine people were shot dead at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

Following the Oregon shooting, President Obama mentioned the Australian example  as he again called for the country to consider how it can change its gun laws.

"We know that states with the most gun laws tend to have the fewest gun deaths," he said.

"So the notion that gun laws don't work, or just will make it harder for law-abiding citizens and criminals will still get their guns is not borne out by the evidence."

Opinions? I could see this turning out well, if carefully executed. Main problem here is the insistent US gun culture.

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The Flood / Re: So today I made a decision
« on: October 18, 2015, 03:52:14 PM »
Does this place have anything to do with it?

Also, good for you. :)

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 03:14:05 PM »
What's so bad about Brink? It kind of flopped big time, but it can't be that bad. Can it?

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The Flood / Re: What's the point in having Flee as a moderator?
« on: October 18, 2015, 03:11:01 PM »
Hurting my feelings there, mate.

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Serious / Re: "America does not have a gun problem..."
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:47:20 AM »
I blame shitty parenting.
For American gun violence?

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I'm all in favor of not being cunts to people, but "being PC" should never stifle debates or opposing viewpoints, which is something that I think many people fear.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:34:49 AM »
And I really quite like the Metro games, but the aiming in them is so shitty on Xbox.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:34:21 AM »
Try Just Cause 2.
Or Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen, it's a Jap RPG but if you're into them at all you should like it.

Spoiler
Because fuck your rules

From what I know of those games, Metro is probably the best. So I'll vote for that.
Oh shit, pretty sure I also have Just Cause 2 from GWG some time. Completely forgot about that.

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Serious / Re: Serious is getting more Serious.
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:27:40 AM »
What the friend did you just friending say about me, you little friend? I'll have you know I graduated top of my friends in the friendly friends, and I've been involved in numerous secret friendships with over 300 confirmed Facebook friends. I am trained in friendly friendfare and I am the top friend in the entire US friendly forces. You are nothing to me but just another friend.

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That thumbnail alone makes me want to not watch this video.

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Gaming / Re: What game should I play next? (Xbox 360)
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:22:18 AM »
Better hurry up if you want to get a vote in, as I'm not gonna wait very long. >_>

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