Quote from: Flee on October 26, 2015, 01:06:30 PM

You can now buy the Gjallarhorn for $9.99?

$19.99

But it's a monthly subscription to the Gjallarhorn manufacturer, so you can keep this amazing weapon

But is it the only way to Become Legend™? Not buying it otherwise.

Trying to hypothetically play out how things would happen in a fight like this generally doesn't work very accurately. Saying that "Oh, the victims could crowd the man with the sword, or pick up broomsticks and fight him off" doesn't sound like a very strong argument to me. If a man with a sword walks into a room full of Grade School kids, that's not ending well unless the teacher has a weapon and gets in front of the attacker first, even then it's a gamble. The only definitive thing that would stop the assailant is someone with a firearm. Anything else stopping them is subject to luck.

Key difference is that a gun has the advantage of distance to it. You run into a crowd with a sword and start hacking away. You might manage to hurt a handful of people before the rest disperse and run away. You do that at a school and within minutes, people are fleeing the building knowing that you can't hurt them unless you're within 2 feet. You point a gun at people and tell them not to move, there is not a thing that they can do. You can kill anyone in the group disobeying your order. Do that with a sword and people will just run for their lives while you have to chase them around individually with a clunky sword. Standing in a central hallway with a gun will effectively allow you to shut down the entire building. People opening a door at the other side of the hallway, you still get to fire at them and scare them back inside. With a knife or sword? Good luck not having everyone flee while you can't do anything about it.

It doesn't need to be harder to kill kids with a gun than a sword, the end result is likely to be similar. Unfortunately in the case of a sword attack, you will have more gore and any survivors are probably more likely to be traumatized.

I have to disagree. At the same day of the Sandy Hook shooting, a similar massacre occured in China. A man armed with a large blade entered an elementary school and started attacking children. Almost the entire school evacuated and escaped within minutes because he couldn't do anything to stop them while he was busy in a particular classroom. Despite that, he still cornered a room and stabbed and cut over 20 children. Every single one of them lived.

People can use pretty much anything to kill others, but you can't honestly deny that some tools are vastly more effective at it than others. They're more easily transported and concealed, do more damage, are easier to use, have greater range and accuracy, cause more severe injuries, exert more pressure over people, are harder to escape / fight / block / hide from, are better at crowd control, are easier to fend off "good guys" with and so on.

I agree that firearms would be a great way to stop bad guys with swords, but by making firearms more easily available you are also going to see an increase in bad guys choosing guns rather than blades. It's an unfortunate tradeoff.

Damn, I was hoping you'd go into law after reading the title. It's so lonely at the top here by myself, after all.

Then again, I have heard some pretty bad stuff about law in the US, so it might not be that attractive over there.

Quote from: Flee on October 26, 2015, 12:25:59 PM

Quote from: Avant le Présent on October 26, 2015, 12:23:35 PM

You can understand my confusion when they put it under "Countries you'll visit on this trip."

Just as I was about to offer you a beer and to show you around my city, you do this to me. Harsh man. Harsh.

Well I don't drink beer, but if I ever do make my way to Belgium I'll let you buy me a Coké.

Not even god tier fruity beers?

You can understand my confusion when they put it under "Countries you'll visit on this trip."

Just as I was about to offer you a beer and to show you around my city, you do this to me. Harsh man. Harsh.

Just come to Belgium instead.

Quote from: Flee on October 26, 2015, 08:50:57 AM

"Long railroads seem flat so the earth must be flat."

Damn, consider me convinced. Someone should let Turkey know about this.

lol you got convinced really easily

I just don't see how anyone could argue against such compelling evidence.

"Two nukes was not enough" just got a whole other meaning.

Sucks to be a mod and not be able to mute anyone with an anime picture for an avatar.

I think it's been pretty well established that taller men generally are more succesful in life and tend to be accepted better as leaders or positions of power. But to ascribe that to some "heightism" normative discrimination against smaller people? Seems a little ridiculous imo. Being tall is just something that most people find aesthetically pleasing and that (historically) brought quite a few advantages. Not really different from how beautiful people are also generally treated better and end up more succesful than others. Nothing you can really do about it, it's just today's standards of what's aesthetically and physically pleasing. Doesn't mean anyone should discriminate against shorter people or treat them differently, but this is not that different from "perfectcheekbones-ism".

Do you really want to know how many kids and some teachers a man with a sword would be able to get through before police responded?

The different locations the attacks occurred at do matter significantly.

Not gonna argue with the fact that these were two very different situations, but you have to admit that it's considerably easier to run away from or fight a guy with a sword than it would be with a gunman. Multiple people surrounding him and keeping him busy with chairs or any makeshift weapon/shield would probably be pretty effective, and if you attack a crowd with a sword you might be able to get some while the vast majority will run away by the time you can get to them. It's a lot harder to run from a rain of bullets, and it's a lot easier to use a gun to injure and kill a group of people than it is with a sword.

Two very different scenarios that should hardly be compared, but you can't honestly argue that it would be harder for the guy to kill and injure more kids if he had access to a bunch of guns rather than a sword.

Quote from: Flee on October 25, 2015, 05:35:51 PM

You mind if I move this to Flood? Serious board really just is for topics like politics, science, current events and such that encourage proper debates.

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Economics
Politics
Ethics
Philosophy
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Guns (When relating to politics/technological development not post your raifu threads)
Medicine
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Sexuality/Gender related threads
Personal Life Issues (Medical, Schooling, Family, etc.)

Oh shit, you're right. I forgot that was added in recently in the last update.

My bad. Never mind and carry on.

That looks pretty fun. Would shoot some stuff with.

She wasn't good enough for him?

Quote from: Cheat on October 24, 2015, 04:28:13 PM

Putting the number of likes inline with the buttons looks ok for users, but it looks odd for staff. Where they are now allows them to be out of the way while filling the space that used to house the IP link.

oh

so we can't find out someone's IP if they're stupid enough to screenshot their own post without censoring it?

Pretty much. It's hidden in the motto and karma dropdown menu.