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The Flood / Re: Yay I passed uni
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:57:15 AM »
What's a 2:2? I'll be receiving my grades next week.

Second class
I still have no clue what that means.

1:1 and 1:2 is first class grade
2:1 and 2:2 is second class grade
3:3 Is shit basically
Oh. So it's good but not great?

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:56:29 AM »
Spoiler
Financial times making some great points
Good points indeed, especially the final one. I can't even comprehend how much Leave has thrived on the whole "fuck experts and people who know what they're talking about, just listen to buzzwords and bite-sized half facts".

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The Flood / Re: Yay I passed uni
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:52:55 AM »
What's a 2:2? I'll be receiving my grades next week.

Second class
I still have no clue what that means.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:52:40 AM »
Don't forget that London's major is apparently talking about keeping London as a part of the EU, somehow. Imagine, London as a EU territory.
That one sounds far more reactionary than anything else. That one won't happen.
I know, just kidding on this one.

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The Flood / Re: Yay I passed uni
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:50:50 AM »
What's a 2:2? I'll be receiving my grades next week.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:48:33 AM »
So let's sum this up

UK decides to leave

Scottland will probably split off from the UK to rejoin the EU

N. Ireland is already talking about reuniting with Ireland to become whole again

The United Kingdom is quite literally falling apart due to a lot of misinformation as already pointed out here, and old people who are selfish I guess since they'll be dead before it actually happens. 300+ years of the United Kingdom is most likely gonna break in our lifetime, and David Cameron is gonna go down in history as the one that let it happen.

May 1, 1707 - 20XX
Don't forget that London's major is apparently talking about keeping London as a part of the EU, somehow. Imagine, London as a EU territory.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:45:50 AM »
Not independence I don't think, but Sturgeon just said Sadiq Khan intends to try and keep London in the European Union.

Unless we've both misheard her.
Guardian confirms that Sadiq shares her opinion and does want to keep London in the EU.

#LondIn when?

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:42:22 AM »
with a divided Europe it's easier for terrorists to hide?


And borders like that have nothing to do with weapons and terrorists moving around Europe?
It's what Spain had with ETA way back when. They'd flee to France and the Spanish couldn't do a damn thing about it.

I seriously fear the day where that becomes a reality again, and with a group that targets civilians far more than military targets like ETA did.
yeah, European intelligence and joint-information system cooperation along with increased police and criminal justice cooperation does a lot to help fight organized crime and terrorism.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:37:52 AM »
Wait, what? London Independence? That's new.
Wait what?

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:37:22 AM »
Some of the comments about the demographics of the vote are pretty good. Seeing how the elderly were the strongest Leave supporters, people are wondering how many of them will still be around by the time the UK actually leaves, lol.

Also, cheeky BBC being cheeky. "Boris Johnson says young people - who were more likely to have voted Remain - now have an assured future."

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:19:08 AM »
Wonder what effect this will have on us uni students, if anything.
Unsure, but not likely to be positive. Just about all British universities have spoken out against a Brexit. It's likely to raise tuition costs, make it harder for students to participate in exchange programmes, lower the international competitiveness of British universities, scrap a lot of funding (I believe close to 20% of all Uni research in Britain is funded by the EU) and hinder the appointment of international staff members and cross-border research. Much depends on the negotiations between the UK and the EU, but I haven't heard a single person who think this will be good for higher education in Britain, so it'll likely suck for British universities and its students. All of the British exchange students I know here are very worried about this.

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In honor of the greatest rapper / Prime Minister combo the UK has ever had, a final tribute to your boy D.Cam.

YouTube


Great speaker.
People rising from the bottom to the top, has got to stop.
He had the bravery to bring back slavery and these fucking Brexiteer idiots ruined it for the white man.

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In honor of the greatest rapper / Prime Minister combo the UK has ever had, a final tribute to your boy D.Cam.

YouTube


Great speaker.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 04:51:20 AM »
So on top of a potential Scottish independence referendum, Irish parties are now calling for a referendum to reunite Ireland.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 04:40:35 AM »
Let's all calm down a second and stop acting as if Nigel Farage is ever, or was ever, going to have a serious hand in policy post-Brexit. . .
I think it's not really just about Farage, but about the Leave campaign as a whole.

Not that Remain had a flawless campaign, but Leave made a whole lot of relatively unsubstantiated and misleading claims along with very big promises. I also don't think it's much of an exaggeration to say that a very large chunk of their voters are not particularly educated and have a limited understanding of the complexities of this issue, being swayed by great buzzwords and fearmongering equal to that of the Remain campaign. It's practically impossible for Leave to live up to all that, so potential public backlash is not unlikely at all.
I don't disagree; my point is that I'd rather wait for the Tories (probably) who will be making the decisions and see what they do, before we start calling for heads to roll.
I agree. I'm just backing the sentiment that the final results have been out for not even 2 hours and one of the Leave campaign's main promises is already being discarded as a "mistake" despite literally being plastered on their bus and pamphlets. What will happen when it turns out that the money "lost" to the EU has been grossly exaggerated? That millions in dues a week will still be paid as part of the EFTA/EEA? That the UK will still have to follow thousands of European rules to retain access to the common market? That adopting something similtar to the highly praised Norway model still includes the four freedoms, including movement and to a large extent immigration? That the UK is still subject to the ECHR which can overrule national courts on matters of human rights?

You and I know this. That the EU will almost definitely still be involved in a lot of the UK's matters regardless. But not everyone does. Leave has put so much effort into portraying this as a new dawn without Europe, a second "independence day", freedom from the clutches of the EU, being in complete and absolute control of borders and laws, and sticking it to the evil bureaucrats in Brussels. They've based themselves on so much misinformation, unsubstantiated claims and big promises that it's hard to see this not leading to a lot of displeased voters. I mean, for all we know that 2% by which Remain lost might be entirely attributable to elderly, sick, disabled or caretakers voting Leave solely for the 350 million extra for the NHS. It's just a shame to see how this is already playing out.

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Serious / Re: Cameron resigned
« on: June 24, 2016, 04:13:02 AM »
Johnson, Farage or similar people in positions of power?
#rove4gove
#prayforBritain

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 04:08:56 AM »
Let's all calm down a second and stop acting as if Nigel Farage is ever, or was ever, going to have a serious hand in policy post-Brexit. . .
I think it's not really just about Farage, but about the Leave campaign as a whole. Not that Remain had a flawless campaign, but Leave made a whole lot of relatively unsubstantiated and misleading claims along with very big promises. I also don't think it's much of an exaggeration to say that a very large chunk of their voters are not particularly educated and have a limited understanding of the complexities of this issue, being swayed by great buzzwords and fearmongering equal to that of the Remain campaign. It's practically impossible for Leave to live up to all that, so potential public backlash is not unlikely at all.

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Serious / Re: Cameron resigned
« on: June 24, 2016, 04:01:12 AM »
Populism on the rise in the West again.
Populism in this country has been going full steam ahead for a while.
Oh yes, I'm well aware. Just doesn't seem to be getting any better now., as illustrated by the referendum. Johnson, Farage or similar people in positions of power?

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Serious / Re: Cameron resigned
« on: June 24, 2016, 03:56:31 AM »
I for one am not excited for the coming economic uncertainty
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html
And so it begins.
Like seriously. After grilling Farage about the "350 million pounds for the NHS" thing not going to happen:

"Do you think there are other things that people who wake up this morning will find out that aren't gonna happen as a result of voting this way?"
- "Well, I'll tell you what they will find out!" (Followed by random unrelated remarks about how the UK is now finally a normal country in charge of its own laws again).

Populism on the rise in the West again.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 03:41:55 AM »
...wow

Kinda leaves you speechless, doesn't it? What a motherfucker.
This is likely just the start. A lot of Leave is based on simple misinformation. It won't be much longer before the rest becomes more obvious too.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 01:21:36 AM »
So do we go REMOVE CAMERON yet?
I'm sure he'll be making his announcement soon. inb4 the government or parliament chooses not to follow the vote.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 01:06:46 AM »
I wonder what Scotland and Northern Ireland will do now, as both ended up voting Remain. Especially for Scotland, where only 38% of people voted Leave and every single polling station / area ended up favoring Remain, it's already being considered another divide in the UK. Seeing how Scotland's parliamentary manifesto said that there'd be another referendum for its sovereignty in case of a Brexit, it's going to be interesting to see what'll happen now.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:55:07 AM »


Your "concerns" are appreciated, thank you. Point is, we survived before the EU, and we're more than capable of surviving after it. I just find it absolutely hysterical how you Remain supporters are acting like hell fire is going to rain down on Britain just for daring to vote against the EU.
I'm glad you're so confident and hope it works out well. While I disagree with the outcome of the vote, I am not so petty as to insult or undermine others.
I'm not insulting you, just clarifying the situation. Clearly you aren't used to experiencing a democratic verdict before.
It's almost as if I wasn't talking about you at all, but top tier assumptions.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:48:18 AM »
Your "concerns" are appreciated, thank you. Point is, we survived before the EU, and we're more than capable of surviving after it. I just find it absolutely hysterical how you Remain supporters are acting like hell fire is going to rain down on Britain just for daring to vote against the EU.
I'm glad you're so confident and hope it works out well. While I disagree with the outcome of the vote, I am not so petty as to insult or undermine others.

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Gaming / Re: Steam Summer Sale - NOW
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:38:08 AM »
Goat sim and the DLC packs are on sale guys
Best investment ever
Free with XBL last month too. Easy 1000 gamerscore.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:12:18 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAHA GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED FLEE
No need to gloat. I just feel concerned for the people in the UK. This will likely have little to no consequences for me personally. I just hope the same can be said for Britain. The country's more divided than ever and there are very uncertain times ahead.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 24, 2016, 12:10:03 AM »
Poorly done Britain. This was a great chance to actually achieve Union reform.
I think it's fairly clear by now that most British people do not believe that reform of the Union is not a burden appropriate for our country.

And why should it? We never voted to join originally with the expectation that it would be anything more than an economic union.
I don't think it's a burden put on Britain. It's the numerous EU officials and institutions who've recently conceded that the British complaints are indicative that a reform is needed. All the UK's done now is pull the rug out of the strongest actor to encourage substantial change, putting itself in a position where other large and more euro-favoring countries are now more powerful relatively speaking. It's an unfortunate decision fueled more by misinformation and a long propaganda war than by sound voters like yourself. Here's to hoping the government won't follow the votes, I suppose.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 23, 2016, 11:59:14 PM »
#rekt
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing. Pretty glad not to be British now. Let's hope this goes down well. Good luck Britain.

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Serious / Re: Unofficial Brexit Thread
« on: June 23, 2016, 11:47:49 PM »
I'm curious if the vote is going to be followed or not. The UK is more divided than ever and to throw away decades of closer European cooperation because of one side clearing the halfway mark by 1.7% on a whim? It's not a 70-30 or 60-40. Or even a 55-45. It's a 51% for one side. That's a very unconvincing result to abandon the status quo supported by about 49% of voters.

Poorly done Britain. This was a great chance to actually achieve Union reform.
That's 51 POINT NINE %, thank you very much.
Google's still saying .7 for me.
Edit: just updated to .8. It's getting there.

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