Already 1 goal ahead 9 minutes into the game. Go Belgium go.

For what it's worth, I never signed. I shared the petition around on here because I support it, but I'm not going to vote in it. That being said, even if it's only one third British signatures, the petition is up to 3 million votes now. That's still a million Britons or 10 times the required amount for Parliament to give a response. I don't think it's going anywhere, but I appreciate the sentiment.

BREAKING: The Leave Campaign's 5 BIGGEST LIES finally REVEALED:

1. Voting Leave will give us 350 million pounds a week to be spent on the NHS.

2. If you don't vote Leave, there will 80 million Turks standing at our doorstep looking for benefits and a EU army assimilating that of Britain.

3. Voting Leave will get rid of all the EU-imposed rules and bureaucracy.

4. Voting Leave will stop mass immigration.

5. Voting Leave will result in Meta Cognition dancing, and I quote, "off his nut on ecstasy" to Omen by The Prodigy.

How can you British folk even stand for this madness and deceit?

Quote from: Flee on June 25, 2016, 04:32:48 PM

Last time I played a bot on Quake Live I went 52-0 against a CPU on the highest difficulty.

You sure you still want to take me on? :p

Let me practice I'll improve you'll see, (I'm sad to see that they didn't add the Quake "campaign")

Yeah, that was never intended. Quake Live was supposed to be nothing but a standalone updated version of Quake 3 Arena's multiplayer, and that's exactly what it is now. Just with more maps, gamemodes and content.

How many days will it take for the task to be completed in 4 days?

Uhm.

Quote from: Flee on June 25, 2016, 12:31:08 PM

Although, to be fair to you, I probably do find it easier to cosy up to less desirable types if I think the cause is worth it. If only because I'm cynical and pessimistic about the state of society as a whole.

Oh yeah, I fully understand that. I'll get back to the rest of your post in a bit.

We are going to crash and burn. Not because we've left, but because we're too dumb to shut up and get on with what's necessary. And the worst part is we probably deserve it.

Gotta be honest, but I could've told you that. And I have been saying it for a while.

This referendum has been wrong since the very start. In Britain, you can't have a legally binding referendum. But that is not the way this was treated. Not once have I seen people on either side make clear that this was supposed to be nothing but advisory. There were only two ways this would've ended well. One, to put it out there beyond any reasonable doubt that the outcome would not be binding. That the referendum would be entirely advisory as a way to gage the public's opinion and perception of the UK's membership of the Union. Nothing more. The referendum should've been a way for political parties, the UK parliament and the British government to get insight in the issue and go from there. Or two, that the referendum would be more than just an advisory poll, but only when certain conditons were met. A certain voter turnout, first, and then a significant majority (60%, perhaps?) for one side to be required for this to actually be used as a guideline for the government to avoid complete division like this.

But no one spoke out. Not even when poll after poll revealed that no matter what the outcome would be, it would be incredibly close and no considerable support would exist for either option. And that was a fatal mistake for the country. Because now you have two pretty much even groups disagreeing on a very important issue. Leave won, but only with a 52% majority, making it so that effectively half the entire country is adamant in its support of the complete opposite and wants something entirely different.

So now, you have two extremely divided groups. Leave, which is still divided among its own people, is now gloating and victoriously prancing around thinking they've got it all because they ended up 1.9% of the votes above the halfway mark. And Remain, which is just about half the population that wants anything but out of the EU, is now trying to still get their hands on whatever they can. It's licking its wounds, left alone with the painful and unfair feeling of how a significant portion of their future, prosperity and opportunities is being abandoned by an absolutely marginal majority. And this is tearing your country apart.

And what I think is just as worse is that it's the Leave campaign that won. Not that these unrests wouldn't still exist if Remain won by 52%, but Leave is a much worse choice. And I'm not saying that because I want the UK to stay or because I condone the fearmongering and shitty campaigning from Remain. I'm saying that because the Leave campaign is downright terrible. And that doesn't mean that all of the arguments of people voting Out are terrible or that every leave voter is a moron, because they really are not and there are plenty of valid complaints with the Union.

But it means that Leave thrives on anti-intellectualism. More so than Remain, it is incredibly populist. When Leave leaders openly and publicly announced that they've had enough of experts, it was clear how doomed they were. Because fuck the intelligent with prestigious degrees, titles and achievements. Screw the esteemed authorities with decades of experience in their respective fields. Down with the men and women who actually know what they're talking about and have a thorough understanding of these complex and important issues. "The people" will undoubtedly know best. Let them have the illusion of control and focus their grievances not on what actually matters, but have them take out their anger on the faceless Brussels elitist bureaucrats. As the Financial Times put it, they have now succeeded in swapping the one distant and unreachable elite with another one. Don't educate with facts or research, but hammer with endless propaganda, lies and misinformation.

And that isn't going to change now that they've won. You're an intelligent person and have some sound grievances against the EU. But you voted not for the party that'll do anything about it. This goes well beyond Union membership. Your intentions may be good, but you inadvertently voted for anti-intellectualism. Leave winning is not just a slap in the face of the EU. It's a slap in the face of some of the things I have admired the most about your country. And that country is more divided than ever. And now, the people in charge are not the ones who look to reason, facts and research. They're the ones who praise populism, anti-intellectualism and misinformation carried on the backs of the uneducated and gullible. Your intentions and reasons for voting Leave may have been good and sound, but your vote was nothing but a drop in an ocean of "Make Britain Great Again", "out with immigrants" and "undemocratic European tyrants rule Britain" drivel. And those people are now in control. Everybody knew that the UK was entirely capable of existing outside of the EU. But simply being outside of the EU and being ran by lying populists riding on the backs of the naive and uneducated using Brexit as a mere platform to push their stupid rhetoric even further? They're two very different things.

And honestly, that's what worries me the most. Not that the UK is leaving. But that this is becoming the new standard in a lot of places. That facts, logic and reason do nothing when faced with empty promises, baseless lies and endless streams of propaganda aimed at the most gullible in our society. And all jokes and banter aside, this genuinely frightens me and has me legitimately worried about the UK and even the rest of Europe.

Quote from: Tyger on June 25, 2016, 10:01:00 AM

Quote from: 🇵🇪🇵🇸🇮™ on June 25, 2016, 09:37:48 AM

70 is very good here

http://matadornetwork.com/life/5-differences-going-college-us-vs-uk/

anything above 80 is pretty much impossible unless you get your name on the news for getting a disease or algorithm named after you

that article is full of inaccuracies

But then again he has a bachelors in journalism which is a joke degree here

well whether you'll believe me or not, my own tutors haven't seen anything higher than an 80 either

Same here. Out of my entire graduating class for the Master's in law, only around 20% of people got a distinction / cum laude, which is getting a 70% here.

Quote from: True Turquoise on June 25, 2016, 09:03:49 AM

help

http://shanghaiist.com/2016/06/24/china_brexit_response.php

Following the United Kingdom's shock decision to leave the European Union after yesterday's referendum, hopes by Leave supporters for the swift establishment of new trade relations with China might prove to be nothing more than hot air.

China Daily reports an estimate doing the rounds is that it will require 500 British negotiators and 10 years before any such deal could materialize, suggesting that the economic case for a Leave vote was never as strong as its advocates had claimed.

Chinese investors are also said to be concerned for their interests in the UK, as many chose to base their European operations in Britain to take advantage of the friendlier business climate and access to the 28-nation free market.

Welp.

So British stocks lost £125 billion in the first day after Brexit, which is more than it contributed in 15 years to the EU in membership fees. Let's hope it'll recover some of it soon.

http://qz.com/715845/british-stocks-lost-125-billion-after-brexit-or-15-years-worth-of-eu-contributions/

Quote from: Flee on June 24, 2016, 11:25:43 AM

Never thought that to begin with. Point is that it was a blatant Leave campaign lie which is now becoming obvious after having duped thousands into it. It's a shame that this debate ended up like this, albeit predictable. Besides, as arguably the most publicised Leave campaigner, Farage is equally complicit in this for lacking the courage to address blatant lies but condoning the talking points of the largest Leave group in the UK.

Exactly how is it a lie? It's our money to spend as we choose once we secede. It might've been presented in a glamorised fashion but the fundamental idea is still there.

You don't see how "hey guys, we lose 350 million pounds to the EU every single week, so vote Leave, and we'll use all that money to fund the NHS!" is now a blatant lie?

1. There is no 350 million pounds a week lost to the EU. That is a vast exaggeration that does not take into account rebates and Union funding. The real figure of membership fees sent to the Union was only around a 3rd of this incorrect claim.

2. Saying that all of this money will now go to the NHS is equally proposterous. Nige already debunked that not even 2 hours after the results were in. And to argue that it wasn't a lie because he personally didn't say it is pretty facetious. Farage, even more so than Johnson, has been the prominent Leave politician. You and I both know that not a single voter differentiates between these Leave campaign factions. None of them make the distinction between Vote Leave and Leave EU. Both work together, cooperated and campaigned jointly, making little to no distinction between the two of them. To now claim that "oh yeah, but it was the OTHER Leave faction who said this, not me so can't accuse me of lying" after deliberately and knowingly condoning these talking points for weeks is despicable. I've never been the biggest fan of Juncker, but at least the man has the balls to come out the day before the referendum and say that he doesn't see there being a better deal for the UK when those claims are being made by Remainers. It's something populist cowards like Farage could take an example of.

Leave said there would be hundreds of millions a week that they'd spend directly on the NHS. It's probably the main reason that drove tens of thousands of elderly, sick, caretakers or people employed in the health care sector to vote Leave. Now, we see the reluctant admittance that there's absolutely no intention of spending all of that money "saved" on the NHS. It's a blatant lie for the sole purpose of misleading gullible people into voting for them. They'll let it calm down first, of course, and hope the people will forget (which they will). And in a few months or years, the people who were led to believe that there would be an additional hundreds of millions of pounds going directly to the NHS every single week will likely be left in the cold, as the amount of money saved has been exaggerated and won't all be going to the NHS.

Quote from: Flee on June 24, 2016, 01:53:00 PM

Quote from: ⚡ Thunder on June 24, 2016, 01:38:10 PM

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Quote from: ⚡ Thunder on June 24, 2016, 01:25:12 PM

Dutch calling for an EU referendum.

Dexit soon

Are they really or is it just Wilders again?

it's Wilders, whoever that is.

Somewhat racist Dutch far right politician.

Islamaphobic? Yeah.

Racist? No. I wouldn't say so.

But then you probably know more about Dutch politics than I do tbf.

He's typically very careful about his racist remarks, but there's been a number of scandals. And not just the "Qoran should be banned" or "give me the tools and I'll brick every Mosque in country" kind of remarks, but other stuff too. I believe there's currently a class action law suit going on against him for footage of him leading a chant along the lines of "how many Morrocans do we want? Less, less, less! That can be arranged!" which targets an entire nationality (a majority of which are now second grade immigrants) consisting of a number of different religions. And then there's things like him being caught referring to foreigners as "it / that" in the context of "that comes here and just breeds like rabbits". I can't really properly convey it in English because it lacks equivalent words, but the term he used to refer to foreigners is a neutral / non-gendered word that is only really used for animals and objects. Using it to refer to a group of people is very denigrating.

So not really racist in the sense of "all niggers should be lynched", but I think many people do believe that his beliefs go beyond standard islamophobia, even though he does a decent job at hiding it.

in light of all this, i have learned myself a neat little term: "pyrrhic victory"

look that up

This is not common knowledge in the US? I'm pretty sure that a majority of 15 year olds here would know it. It's taught as part of Latin, Dutch and history.

Quote from: Flee on June 24, 2016, 01:35:51 PM

Quote from: ⚡ Thunder on June 24, 2016, 01:25:12 PM

Dutch calling for an EU referendum.

Dexit soon

Are they really or is it just Wilders again?

it's Wilders, whoever that is.

Somewhat racist Dutch far right politician.

I usually avoid this stuff, but I'm now seeing similar comments on mine for the first time. There's this one guy who isn't from the EU in my programme who so far failed all of his European Law exams and is now going off on the most stupid and populist rant on how glad he is to see the UK leave.