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Serious / Trump doing his thing
« on: January 23, 2017, 11:25:20 AM »
We're three days into Trump's presidency. Let's take a look at what's happened so far.

Trump is arguably violating the American constitution by refusing and/or neglecting to part with his business assets in an adequate way. As Turkey already pointed out, there's this thing called the emoluments clause which prevents the president from receiving compensation, gifts or money from foreign actors as it might constitute bribery or an act of putting personal (financial) interests above those of the country. Trump has business interests all over the world and regularly deals with foreign actors and goverments, making it so that he is effectively being paid by other countries which poses a clear conflict of interest and risks Trump thinking more like a businessman protecting his empire than a president presenting his country. As of today, this is being challenged in court.
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A group including former White House ethics attorneys will file a lawsuit on Monday accusing President Donald Trump of allowing his businesses to accept payments from foreign governments, in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

The lawsuit, brought by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, will allege that the Constitution's emoluments clause forbids payments to Trump's businesses. It will seek a court order forbidding Trump from accepting such payments, said Deepak Gupta, one of the lawyers working on the case. Trump does business with countries like China, India, Indonesia and the Philippines, the group noted in a statement. "When Trump the president sits down to negotiate trade deals with these countries, the American people will have no way of knowing whether he will also be thinking about the profits of Trump the businessman," it said.

Despite promising to transfer ownership of his companies to his two sons to avoid conflicts of interest (which we all know will accomplish absolutely nothing as his sons are just going to look after his own interests and follow his commands anyways), there exists zero evidence of him actually taking any steps towards doing this according to a new ProPublica report.
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At a news conference last week, now-President Donald Trump said he and his daughter, Ivanka, had signed paperwork relinquishing control of all Trump-branded companies. Next to him were stacks of papers in manila envelopes — documents he said transferred “complete and total control” of his businesses to his two sons and another longtime employee. Sheri Dillon, the Trump attorney who presented the plan, said that Trump “has relinquished leadership and management of the Trump Organization.” Everything would be placed in a family trust by Jan. 20, she said. That hasn’t happened.

To transfer ownership of his biggest companies, Trump has to file a long list of documents in Florida, Delaware and New York. We asked officials in each of those states whether they have received the paperwork. As of 3:15 p.m. today, the officials said they have not. Trump and his associates “are not doing what they said they would do,” said Richard Painter, the chief ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush. “And even that was completely inadequate.”

Despite promising to reveal his tax returns once a supposed audit ends (which is complete bullshit as even if there really was an audit, it would not at all stop him from sharing this information) which would clear the air about much of his financial ties, interests and obligations, Trump has gone back on his word and is now saying he will not make this information public. He's hereby going against 40 years of presidential tradition and claims that his reason for doing so is that "no one cares", despite the fact that numerous polls found that a sizable majority of both democrats and republicans want to know about this.
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Donald Trump will not release his tax returns even after repeated promises to do so following a supposed audit, one of his senior advisers said on Sunday – confirming that the president will break a 40-year tradition and not show Americans the extent of his financial interests and obligations. Kellyanne Conway, a senior counselor to the president, told ABC’s This Week the Trump administration would do nothing about calls to release the information. “The White House response is that he’s not going to release his tax returns,” she said. “We litigated this all through the election.” The broken promise alienated WikiLeaks, which for months during the campaign released hacked Democratic emails, which Trump often seized on to denigrate his opponent Hillary Clinton.

Speaking to ABC, Conway contradicted polls that show most Americans want to see the returns when she said: “People didn’t care. “They voted for him, and let me make this very clear: most Americans … are very focused on what their tax returns will look like while President Trump is in office, not what his look like.” Last week a Washington Post-ABC poll showed that 74% of Americans, including 53% of Republicans, want to see Trump’s returns. In October a CNN poll found that 73% of registered voters, including 49% of Republicans, wanted to see the tax returns. A petition on the White House website that calls for the immediate release of the returns and “all information needed to verify emoluments clause compliance” had 218,465 signatures as of Sunday afternoon.

The returns could show the breadth of Trump’s financial interests around the world, including where he does business, who his partners are and to whom he owes money. Ethics experts fear Trump’s business liabilities could affect White House policy and how the president spends taxpayer dollars: for instance, how he may deal with banks that own hundreds of millions of his debt, treat foreign nations that curry favor or become real estate partners, or reshape domestic policy to accommodate his interests.

And then, of course, there's the removal of all references to science, civil rights, LGBT, health care and climate change on the official White House and administration website, as well as Trump and his staff pushing the blatant lie that he saw record-breaking numbers of attendance at his inauguration when this is factually untrue.

Buckle up, kids.

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The Flood / Re: Is Barron Trump autistic?
« on: January 23, 2017, 04:12:18 AM »
its all those vaccines
many such cases!
> the kid Trump was referring to in his Tweets was actually Barron.

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Serious / Re: First President Statement already looking bad
« on: January 23, 2017, 04:06:48 AM »
What are you guys arguing about?
Trump and the White House attacking the media for drawing comparisons between the amount of attendees at Trump's inauguration and Obama's. Despite aerial photos, high altitude pictures and time lapses, TV viewer counts and metro records in DC clearly showing that Trump didn't have anywhere near the same amount of attendance as Obama did, he and his administration are pushing what they call "alternative facts" in which Trump apparently drew record amounts of supporters.

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The Flood / Re: Is Barron Trump autistic?
« on: January 23, 2017, 03:18:50 AM »
Seems plausible, but circumstantial evidence is just that. Trump also doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd ever want to admit to something like that. Given Trump's views on his "superior genes" and inflated sense of ego and self-importance, I would not at all be surprised if he'd see his youngest and only son with the first lady being autistic as something to be ashamed about.

That being said, I don't think that it matters or is anyone's business.

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Serious / Re: Net neutrality may be another hot topic under the Donald.
« on: January 23, 2017, 02:20:07 AM »
The only one I heard of so far that I consider credible is from CNET.

If this is true, Well... Fuck.

Still, I want a legit news article from a credible news source that's not CNET.
I just googled "Net neutrality" and went to the news section and got a bunch.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/report-net-neutrality-foe-ajit-pai-fcc-head-44935168

R.I.P my internet and Sep7agon I guess.

Again, if this really is true and the internet is pretty much gonna go under...

Dear Donald Trump.

YouTube

I don't understand why this is such a surprise, nor why it's the only part of digital rights you're focusing on. Trump has been openly against net neutrality for years. He's called it a top down power grab and opposed it becoming an aspect of FCC policy. All three of his transitional advisers were opponents of net neutrality and supporters of big business rights. We have known this for months and while he never explicitly called to end it during his campaign, his position on the issue has been very clear and it has always stood to reason that he would look to repeal or somehow diminish net neutrality in the US.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/01/technology/net-neutrality-fight-trump/

http://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/509564/

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/how-much-danger-net-neutrality-now

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/10/how-donald-trump-will-dismantle-obamas-internet-legacy/?utm_term=.0e69ea5f9227

These are all older articles from a month or two back already talking about how Trump is a big risk to American net neutrality.

Still not discussing this with you for very good reasons.
Eh, alright. If that's what you want. I'm not looking to start anything. Just pointing out that Trump's position on net neutrality has been known since long before the election and that both his actions and words made very clear that he opposes it. Him appointing another opponent of net neutrality and potentially undermining or even removing the policy really shouldn't come as a surprise and should've been expected by anyone who voted for Trump.

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Serious / Re: Net neutrality may be another hot topic under the Donald.
« on: January 23, 2017, 01:39:37 AM »
The only one I heard of so far that I consider credible is from CNET.

If this is true, Well... Fuck.

Still, I want a legit news article from a credible news source that's not CNET.
I just googled "Net neutrality" and went to the news section and got a bunch.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/report-net-neutrality-foe-ajit-pai-fcc-head-44935168

R.I.P my internet and Sep7agon I guess.

Again, if this really is true and the internet is pretty much gonna go under...

Dear Donald Trump.

YouTube

I don't understand why this is such a surprise, nor why it's the only part of digital rights you're focusing on. Trump has been openly against net neutrality for years. He's called it a top down power grab and opposed it becoming an aspect of FCC policy. All three of his transitional advisers were opponents of net neutrality and supporters of big business rights. We have known this for months and while he never explicitly called to end it during his campaign, his position on the issue has been very clear and it has always stood to reason that he would look to repeal or somehow diminish net neutrality in the US.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/01/technology/net-neutrality-fight-trump/

http://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/509564/

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/how-much-danger-net-neutrality-now

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/11/10/how-donald-trump-will-dismantle-obamas-internet-legacy/?utm_term=.0e69ea5f9227

These are all older articles from a month or two back already talking about how Trump is a big risk to American net neutrality.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 06:14:34 PM »
I think I just had one of my best games yet. 208 points, 26 kills, 7 titan kills, 17 minion kills, 0 deaths. First time I've ever seen anyone go over 200 in Attrition. And the score doesn't include the end of the game where I got a penta kill and the medals for whiping out the entire enemy team by myself. Got 6 kills in like 20 seconds, will upload a video soon. Are there leaderboards or personal bests for scores and stuff?

I think the most I've gotten was 160. Good on ya.
Yeah, I was surprised myself. I landed in the 190's several times before but always ended just short of 200. Wasn't expecting it this game either because I already joined like a minute into the game in progress.

Score:


Christ, you scored almost half the points. I've noticed my score goes way up when my team doesn't help for shit.
Yeah, it can be easier to get high scores with a bad team. Leaves more killing for you. But on the other hand, it can also be very detrimental to your score. Bad teammates give enemies free movement around the map and control of every important area. They also die a lot and do little to stop your opponents, which means that the guys you're playing against rack up titans and boosts very quickly. Even if you are kicking ass, you'll easily find yourself in a situation where you're the only titan up against 3 enemy titans and anti-titan weaponry as your teammates just feed the other team with kills and don't do anything to help. It kind of balances out in that aspect. Same thing happens in Halo (other team gets map control and power weapons) and CoD (enemies gain map control and kill streaks).

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The Flood / Re: How DO you grab someone by the pussy?
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:50:52 PM »
You're an amateur, Turkey. Let me give you a play-by-play.

First, you identify a woman. She must be married, of course. Then, you move on her. But not the way you'd move on any woman, no. You move on her like a bitch. Then comes a moment of doubt because you can't quite there, but you take another close look and you see she now has big phony tits and everything. You know, she completely changed her look. Then, and this is crucial, you gotta have some tic-tacs. Just in case you start kissing her. And that's likely because you're automatically attracted to them and just kiss. You don't even wait. Then, the final step is that you have to be a star, because then they let you do it. You can do anything at that point. So what you do is just use your tiny hands to get under their skirt and you just do it. You grab them. Right by the pussy.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:25:15 PM »
Any point in doing the regeneration thing? I just reached level 50.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 05:24:55 PM »


Unacceptable
Haha, I just ended a game of Attrition where we won by one point as well. For the first time ever, the announcer going "don't give up yet, there's still time" when you're significantly behind wasn't untrue.

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10 years seems excessive. Pay damages and serve time, sure, but a decade?
I really doubt any of them are going to get anywhere near the maximum sentence.
This. I doubt most will get more than a fine or probation.

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The Flood / Re: I will attempt to consume one (1) Chinese animation
« on: January 22, 2017, 04:34:58 PM »
I'll try to watch episode 2 tonight.

I'm right there with ya friend. We'll watch together so we can treat it as an experiment and not you giving in.
Great. I've been preoccupied with other things these past few days so haven't watched episode 2 yet, but I definitely will. You're good motivation to keep going.

Yeah just quote me when you do, we'll go to the looney bin together bro.
Will do.

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The Flood / Re: I will attempt to consume one (1) Chinese animation
« on: January 22, 2017, 04:32:58 PM »
I want Flee's thoughts after episode 4.
You'll get a play by play of every one.

Why is episode 4 so infamous?

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 04:29:18 PM »
YouTube


Play of the game would be nice in Titanfall as well for wipes like this. Didn't even realize I had another Titan ready, lol. And yeah, >hemlok but I'm trying to get to like level 10 with every weapon.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 04:23:54 PM »
I think I just had one of my best games yet. 208 points, 26 kills, 7 titan kills, 17 minion kills, 0 deaths. First time I've ever seen anyone go over 200 in Attrition. And the score doesn't include the end of the game where I got a penta kill and the medals for whiping out the entire enemy team by myself. Got 6 kills in like 20 seconds, will upload a video soon. Are there leaderboards or personal bests for scores and stuff?

I think the most I've gotten was 160. Good on ya.
Yeah, I was surprised myself. I landed in the 190's several times before but always ended just short of 200. Wasn't expecting it this game either because I already joined like a minute into the game in progress.

Score:

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The Flood / Re: I will attempt to consume one (1) Chinese animation
« on: January 22, 2017, 04:17:13 PM »
I'll try to watch episode 2 tonight.

I'm right there with ya friend. We'll watch together so we can treat it as an experiment and not you giving in.
Great. I've been preoccupied with other things these past few days so haven't watched episode 2 yet, but I definitely will. You're good motivation to keep going.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 03:54:43 PM »
Also, sentries getting nerfed is a good thing. They are a cancer in pilot vs. pilot. Extremely accurate, pretty decent health and very fast. If you happen to jump around a corner where a turret is facing, you're pretty much fucked unless you have an ability ready to save your ass.

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Gaming / Re: Titanfall 2
« on: January 22, 2017, 03:43:01 PM »
I think I just had one of my best games yet. 208 points, 26 kills, 7 titan kills, 17 minion kills, 0 deaths. First time I've ever seen anyone go over 200 in Attrition. And the score doesn't include the end of the game where I got a penta kill and the medals for whiping out the entire enemy team by myself. Got 6 kills in like 20 seconds, will upload a video soon. Are there leaderboards or personal bests for scores and stuff?

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We've come full circle. Trump, the king of saying it as it is, the master of the no-nonsense approach and the champion of the "reeee fuck the left and SJW's for valuing their liberal bias over facts" crowd is now pushing "alternative facts" when overwhelming and hard evidence in the form of aerial photos, high altitude vantage shots, metro data and (to a smaller extent) television viewer counts go against his own feelings and petty delusions of grandeur.

It would be funny if it weren't so damn sad.

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Serious / Re: First President Statement already looking bad
« on: January 22, 2017, 02:33:13 PM »
So please explain the perspective distortion in the gigapixel image
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/
You're trying to oppose the argument that frontal low angle pictures give a distorted view of crowd sizes due to perspective by posting an almost equally low angle picture from almost the exact same perspective. That doesn't fly.

This whole discussion is pointless as it is, but it's becoming pretty damn clear that Trump had significantly less attendance and most definitely did not break any records. Suggesting that these aerial photos are somehow misleading when they're one of the most legitimate ways of comparing attendance is really disingenous. You really shouldn't be making these attacks on "the left" for only "believing what they want" when you're doing exactly that. The regressive left is a cancer and dumb as shit, but I'd be a lot more sympathetic to the alt right if they weren't equally biased and one-sided despite the ironic and incorrect attitude of "they have feelings, we have facts".

Trump and his administration are pushing what is a clear lie on the very first day of his term. Television views, aerial photos, photos from the Capitol and metro usage are all evidence of this. No matter how you feel about him, these lies should be universally condemned. You standing for the White House attacking media for covering this, or showing ground-level pictures giving a distorted perspective as "real news" as opposed to the mainstream media is incredibly disingenuous.

Here's even more proof. A picture taken from the same angle as your Gigapixel one, only from a higher point of view. Putting them side by side with the Gigapixel, you can tell they're taken at almost the exact same time and it's abundantly clear how Trump had significantly less people attending his ceremony than Obama did. There's even a nice video to go along with it. Trump having less attendance means nothing and using it to make a point shouldn't be taken seriously, but defending these lies, trying to "find middle ground" in something which is purely factual, suggesting that you're not making claims either way and looking to discredit evidence as "what the skimpy leads on" is just insincere. Take your own advice and stop valuing your feelings over facts, as this is exactly what you're accusing "the left" of doing. The white house administration literally called their version of the story "alternative facts", which to me sounds a whole lot like regressive SJW's who don't like the truth because it comes from white straight males at fancy institutions. Pictures don't just become misleading or an instrument of the evil biased media because you don't like them.



And on that note I'm going to stay out of the crowd size discussion, because fuck, this is such an unimportant thing to do discuss and it's already taken up precious time I could've spent watching the Australian Open.

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Serious / Re: Some Photos from Yesterdays Protests
« on: January 22, 2017, 01:38:27 PM »
What do these protesters hope to achieve exactly?

"Ah sorry Donald mate, people are smashing windows n screaming in the streets n that. Doesn't look like you can be president anymore lad, we've had a good run see ya later then yeah? You know the way out xx"
That's a bit of a strange question. People protest court rulings, election results, legislation, social changes and so forth without there being a real possibility of them changing anything. The reason these people protest is the same reason anyone protests pretty much ever. It's to make a statement. To show dissatisfaction and disagreement, and put an actual face on the opposition. Seeing some numbers in an online poll or survey are one thing, but actually having hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets and swarm entire cities sends a much more powerful message. In the eyes of many, Trump has shown himself to be a very narrow minded man with a lot of disdain for women, minorities and people different to himself, both through his actions and words. This is their way of showing that even though he's won and that the outcome is final, there's still millions of people living under him who fear what he might do and hold a lot of power as a collective. It's a reminder that those who disagreed with him and are worried about what he might do to their rights are not just a faceless number in statistics or a text message on Facebook that has made a complete 180, but are a very real and large part of society that shouldn't and can't just be ignored.

No one is expecting Trump to resign over something like this and I also don't know of any property damage or violence occuring at these rallies.
I never said the protests shouldn't be taking place, just that they're misplaced. For one, they seem to think the president has a lot more power than he actually does. "Trumpstapo wants to take away my rights as a woman, deport gays and mexicans and place me in forced labour wall construction" is a bit of a misnomer, if anything. Developed countries have a myriad of checks and balances in place for that precise reason, as you of all people should know.

By all means, they can exercise their right to protest, doesn't mean I should take them the least bit seriously.
I agree, but it's more of a general message to not just Trump, but society and the government as a whole. Trump does not hold all the power, but with a conservative Congress, president and soon-to-be SCOTUS, it's no surprise that these people are worried. It's bullshit to suggest that Trump won because America is racist, sexist and hateful, but the fact that a man who is very questionable in all those aspects was elected by the people might indicate a shift in the general opinion in society. Stories like the appointment of DeVos don't really help either, as we now have completely unqualified and apparently incapable billionaires being given powerful and influential positions after donating millions of dollars to a political party with the literal and public message of "we want something in return", in addition to funding 10 out of the 12 (I believe) people on the supposedly neutral and objective committee tasked with vetting and approving their application.

You can reject this all you want and I agree that it's largely without purpose, but I understand the concerns of these people and think that peaceful mass gatherings send a pretty powerful message and are a good way of voicing fears.

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Serious / Re: Some Photos from Yesterdays Protests
« on: January 22, 2017, 11:38:33 AM »
It's an impressive demonstration of a nonexistent platform. Paraphrasing my wife, but she resents their message that women must be liberal Clinton-supporters.
God forbid people disagree with the policies of an elected leader out of their own free will.

Not sure what point you're trying to make. These women's marches don't speak for her, yet claim to.
Do they, though? I don't think they try to speak for anyone, but rather just aim to promote women's (and minorities') rights after one of the largest countries in the world just elected someone widely considered to be pretty misogynist, xenophobic and anti-women.

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Serious / Re: Some Photos from Yesterdays Protests
« on: January 22, 2017, 11:16:03 AM »
What do these protesters hope to achieve exactly?

"Ah sorry Donald mate, people are smashing windows n screaming in the streets n that. Doesn't look like you can be president anymore lad, we've had a good run see ya later then yeah? You know the way out xx"
That's a bit of a strange question. People protest court rulings, election results, legislation, social changes and so forth without there being a real possibility of them changing anything. The reason these people protest is the same reason anyone protests pretty much ever. It's to make a statement. To show dissatisfaction and disagreement, and put an actual face on the opposition. Seeing some numbers in an online poll or survey are one thing, but actually having hundreds of thousands of people take to the streets and swarm entire cities sends a much more powerful message. In the eyes of many, Trump has shown himself to be a very narrow minded man with a lot of disdain for women, minorities and people different to himself, both through his actions and words. This is their way of showing that even though he's won and that the outcome is final, there's still millions of people living under him who fear what he might do and hold a lot of power as a collective. It's a reminder that those who disagreed with him and are worried about what he might do to their rights are not just a faceless number in statistics or a text message on Facebook that has made a complete 180, but are a very real and large part of society that shouldn't and can't just be ignored.

No one is expecting Trump to resign over something like this and I also don't know of any property damage or violence occuring at these rallies.

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Serious / Re: First President Statement already looking bad
« on: January 22, 2017, 07:50:17 AM »
Came across this


you see there's a problem with the claim on that image you posted, that comparison shot was taken during the speech at peak time for the crowd

you've fallen for damage control son
I was just showing that there was another image showing more people. Unfortunately I couldn't attend, so I can't say which is certain either way.

that's not how it works

changing the perspective to make it look like Obama and Trump had roughly the same amount of people doesn't mean that they had the same amount of people

the overhead shot has more people in the frame than the on the ground one, it's also providing you the complete picture instead of a cherry picked angle that tries to fool you into believing a false narrative
Are you seriously trying to say the Trump picture is just a perspective trick when it's quite literally the same viewing angle?

I was just showing that there was another image showing more people.

you literally said that changing the perspective creates more people

there are not more people in that picture than there are in the overhead shot of the trump inaguration
I didn't say changing the perspective adds more people.  I was pointing out that there's another image showing that there are more people present than the skimpy leads on.  I can't say one way or the other if Trump had more or less people because there are conflicting images, but it's known that most media tries to downplay the number or Trumps supporters as seen last year from his rallies.

there aren't "more people than the skimpy lets on" because you can clearly see the location where the picture you prefer to look at is taking place in the overhead one. the only people that are trying to do any downplay anything at this point are the trump supporters going on full damage control and throwing up a picture that makes it look like there are more people there than there actually are.

there aren't conflicting images, metro ridership was down from 2009, and news agencies are reporting 8 million less viewers for the inauguration than during Obama's in 2009. the indicators are there that this was not an event to smash all the records like trump and his team are claiming.
The wonders of perspective. It's essentially the below at a larger scale.



Frontal picture taken at a low angle shows lots of people in the front and then makes it hard to tell how many people are standing towards the back. Aerial photos paint the whole picture.

Is it a fact that Trump had much less people attending his inauguration than his predecessor? Yes. Does this matter, given the circumstances and where the speech is held? Not really. Is it disingenuous to lie about it and try to make it seem like Trump had just as large of a crowd or is even setting new records? Yes, very much so.

I can't help but notice how half the time people whine about the mainstream media lying about the truth and fake news, their own "sources" are often more flawed, biased and incorrect. Stupid as fuck, and one of the main reasons why I am very suspicious about alternative news.

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Serious / Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:25:50 PM »
That's sad.

Not you or your post. Just people physically assaulting others for speaking their mind. No high horse.
I know what you were talking about. The situation.

But let me explain this in case you don't know, these people are strutting around like they just took over the country. Shit like this is good. Too bad he didn't whoop his ass or shoot him as far as I'm concerned. There's no place in civilization for Nazis.
I agree with the last part, but this is only going to give them more power. The black dude got his punch off and the white guy is going to have an aching jaw for a while. Meanwhile, this video is going to be shared endlessly and go viral in many communities sparking even more people to share his ideas and cause, and giving his terrible ideology more of a platform and justification to grow and gain power.

I'm not going to deny that it can be validating to see genuinely shit people get what's coming for them, but advocating this kind of stuff only gives them more of a reason to continue and makes it more likely for them to get support.

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Serious / Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:17:16 PM »
That's sad.

Not you or your post. Just people physically assaulting others for speaking their mind. No high horse.

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Serious / Re: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:14:23 PM »
That's sad. Who even is he?

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Serious / Re: The 58th Presidential Inauguration
« on: January 20, 2017, 08:12:28 PM »
Really
Not worth it and nothing good to come out of this. Good night.

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Serious / Re: The 58th Presidential Inauguration
« on: January 20, 2017, 07:58:52 PM »
Look, I'm not trying to tear you guys down. I just think it's a very disgusting thing to say for anybody of any country. Nobody should be ashamed to be something. It's a shameful day, but to be ashamed of being American? No, that's wrong, and it pisses me off.
Actually, let's not. This really isn't worth it.

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