I'm saying it's going to seriously take a hit in terms of employment, which is what the thread is about.

That's probably true, but a lot of the people I know aren't into law just for the professional sake of it. Many enjoy it as a hobby or an interest. Even if there would be no more need for people to work in the franchise, which I sincerely doubt will ever happen, there's still going to be thousands of people doing it voluntarily. Probably not me, but that's beside the question.

Not to mention, the legal system is heavily dependent on the socio-economic system. If we do end up in a world where all production and most services are automated, I see little need for contracts or private property.

Private law is, but not criminal. As long as there's people, there'll be need for a legal system because always calm, quiet and safe just isn't in our nature. Besides, the upcoming AI and this new society of (almost) no jobs will bring new legal challenges (just look at the "should AI have equal rights" thread) that will demand solving. As long as the human race evolves, law will evolve with it.

So back to my original post, I still think I will be relatively safe from having my job taken over by a robot. After all, I'm not getting a double Master's just so I can file reports or do basic legal research.

Why wouldn't you hand over such roles to more intelligent minds? It'd be like not replacing an incompetent judge with a competent one nowadays.

I see your point, but law fundamentally and in its core relies on the human aspect. It's hard to explain this to someone without a legal education, but law is a lot more than simply adding up rules. So much more goes into a fair sentencing or any legal procedure than "person X did this, which counts as crime Y, which is punished by Z". It's the human aspects like motivation, circumstances, context, relations of the parties involved, state of mind, events leading up to the crime, penance and regret... that a machine, no matter how intelligent, can never understand. Despite their intelligence, even AI aren't human and can't understand these things or put themselves in the place of the victims, perpetrator and societal consensus.

I am fully convinced that once we let AI or any sort of machine legally judge humans and decide on their faith, we have welcomed our new overlords and have given up one of the key things that make us human.

I skimmed through some of the articles, and they mainly seem to reinforce my point. Robots will be able to help and improve law and our legal systems, but some things they can never replace. They can be of massive use with research, adminstration, drafting and classification, but they will not be able to plead; judge or come up with the creative solutions that are so important in law.

He won't come up with the creative solutions, but when it comes to the regular games that lawyers play, he'll kill them

The good news for lawyers is that no one thinks the profession can be automated entirely.

And this final quote is indicative of what I said before. Law is not just 1+1 = 2. An AI may be able to help you find relevant legal sources or give advice, but none of that is guaranteed to be correct because so much relies on human imput and is open to the interpretation of lawyers and judges.

But computers practicing law isn't necessarily a good thing. For instance, Blackman wonders who is responsible if clients get bad advice. Some firms have already faced criticism for the alleged misuse of legal technology.

Quote from: Flee on September 25, 2014, 09:20:51 AM

I agree with what Sandtrap says. But I think I'm in a field of expertise that is never going to be replaced by robots, so I'll be safe.

Everything will inevitably be automated.

Such is the nature of progress. Law firms have begun using software to sift through paperwork, and I can imagine the remit of automation expanding beyond that in the future.

Sure, administrative, sorting and classifying will eventually be done by machines, but not everything. I doubt humanity is ever going to let a machine decide on a case on life or death as a judge would. Or have robots plead in court.

Having a robot judge people accused of crimes is the stuff nightmares and horror movies of AI taking over are made of. I sincerely doubt and hope we will ever surrender that to machines, as law so requires that human aspect.

I agree with what Sandtrap says. But I think I'm in a field of expertise that is never going to be replaced by robots, so I'll be safe.

I'm not sure which is more annoying, things like this, or when you co op and the host dies and then they send messages to you blaming you for their mistake, when all you were trying to do is help haha

I wouldn't know about the latter because the only time I co-op is to help a friend or when I was getting the achievement for all miracles.

Most annoying things to me are the ones I just don't understand. People ganking at level 300 in full Havel's with all the buffs and wards you can think of and the cheapest/easiest/most powerful weapons in the game. I just don't get what's even remotely fun about that.

It's fun for a day. After which you've reached level 20 and beat the lackluster campaign, and the only thing left to do is play the subpar PVP or grind the same missions over and over again in the hopes of better loot so you can eventually play a raid.

Don't worry, it's just Lupus.

It's never Lupus. Except for the one time that it was.

Learn to play Quake duel. Few things I've done can compare to the amount of focus it requires and immersion it provides. Should keep you up for sure.

Quote from: Flee on September 25, 2014, 05:59:01 AM

I have played it. Just couldn't get into it and quit a couple hours in.

Did you play the Dark Arisen version?
No?
That's why.

And at least it's fun. Dark Souls gets old quickly.

I don't even know which one I played, I couldn't care enough to put more hours into it after the first day of playing it.

And I still regularly play Dark Souls years after its release. What makes the game even greater is the amazing multiplayer and PVP aspects.

Quote from: Flee on September 25, 2014, 05:31:04 AM

Quote from: True Velox on September 25, 2014, 01:34:08 AM

I've been waiting for I situation where I can use this.

Quote

"We can and will outperform your graphical settings, even on a budget. 
 
We have and will continue to have a larger library of games, for less money too. Our specs are better than your specs. 
 
We can swap between our games, media and work at the push of a button, whilst maintaining our progress. We can breathe new life into our boring games for free.
 
We have more options, we have total control of those options, if hardware fails, we replace it, if software fails, we can fix it - if we're not a total f*ck-up, we can prevent these things from happening altogether. 
 
We can optimize, we can adapt, we can upgrade and overcome. There is nothing we cannot rip, no format we cannot play with. We can play your old games with new hardware, and find ways for our old hardware to play newer games. 
 
We will never fall. 
 
We are the elite.
 
We are the PC Master Race and we will never be vanquished."

That is some grade A fedora-tipping neckbeard cringy shit man.

it's totally super srs man.

I'm glad it isn't to you, but I know people to who it is. There's a lot of idiots involved in this petty gaming system war.

Quote from: Flee on September 24, 2014, 05:33:39 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 24, 2014, 05:18:15 PM

Do it again on a Rockband controller.

Or blindfolded.

or both

People have done a blindfolded run. One person telling them one to do, the other being the hands. Wasn't on a Rockband controller though.

isn't trusted.

I doubt many women would trust a man who sleeps with 3 girls a week either.

So many sluts on here. Let's shame them. Who's with me?

Nope.

Shank a black person

There were plenty of those, but I didn't do that. It's a class with exchange students, so there were students from all over the world there.