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Serious / Re: So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?
« on: September 26, 2014, 05:13:30 AM »
A black teen being killed by a racist officer is not the same as killing an enemy combatant or terrorist. Thats just focusing on the "kill" part of the order instead of the "capture" part. Obama's not going to risk American lives to capture them when he can order a drone strike instead.

They have rights if captured according to international law. But these prisons are set up so that these laws don't have to be followed. That's why I say the don't have rights, because American citizens or not, they were terrorists. They weren't being prosecuted, they were killed for being members of AQ.
Not sure why you're still going on about the article mentioned in the OP and the distinction between capturing and killing, but Class and I are talking about whether or not terrorists in general still have rights. To which question the answer undoubtedly is yes. No one with any legal knowledge would dispute that a human being does not have a set of fundamental rights, regardless or what they've done.

That is not to say that they're always respected, of course, but it's a clear fact that they do have those rights. Nowhere does it say in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a convention signed and ratified by virtually every country, that "every human being has the following inalienable and fundamental rights, except when they think of bombing America".

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Serious / Re: So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?
« on: September 26, 2014, 04:22:49 AM »
Whether it applies or not, what happens in the secrecy of these black prisons stays there. Geneva convention and international rights are about as helpful as telling a man with a loaded gun to put it down immediately or you're going to be very angry with him.

That's why I say terrorists have no rights, because they don't. It's in the patriot act. Whether you're an American citizen or not, if you threaten national security you will be killed not captured. That's what happened to Samir and Awlaki.
Just because their rights aren't respected or upheld doesn't mean they don't have them. It's no different from another black teen dying to excessive use of force by law enforcement. The teen's constitutional rights to a fair trial weren't respected as they should've been, but that doesn't mean he never had them.

Terrorists undeniably have rights. Whether or not your government actually (always) abides by them is a different matter entirely.

15003
Gaming / Re: Dark Souls
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:58:58 AM »

Relevant, one of my favorite Dark Souls gifs:


15004
Serious / Re: So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:47:29 AM »
I meant to say "unlawful combatants". POW's have international law to protect them if captured.
Even unlawful combatants have rights. The Convention against Torture and UDHR still applies to them just the same.

Also, what counts as a POW is defined in the third Geneva Convention. It is debatable, but it's not unlikely that a captured member of a terrorist organization could count as one.

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Serious / Re: So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:40:11 AM »
Whilst I'm all for bombing the fuck out of terrorist scum, when you say enemy combatants have no rights are you still talking about ISIS/AQ or about an opposing army as well? (Like Russkies or the Germans in WW2)
The US constitution does not grant rights to non-American citizens outside of the US territories, so in that sense those people have no constitutional (or any other) legal rights.

However, there are plenty of (semi-) universal international treaties that do give every human being certain rights. The UN Convention against Torture, the Geneva Conventions (the law of the humanitarian treatment of war) and the Hague Conventions (the law of the actual warfare) are some of those. I am not entirely sure whether the current conflict involving ISIS would come in the scope of all these conventions, but rest assured, terrorists and enemy combatants definitely do have rights.

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The Flood / Re: What's with all the blacklisting and Bans lately?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:37:10 AM »
Those bans were pretty deserved. I'm all in favor of an Anarchy board or posting NSFW material put in spoilers and with a clear warning.
Anarchy opens back up next week. The guy who got banned should have waited. 8)
For good this time, or once again timed?

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The Flood / Re: What's with all the blacklisting and Bans lately?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:33:25 AM »
Those bans were pretty deserved. I'm all in favor of an Anarchy board or posting NSFW material put in spoilers and with a clear warning.

15008
Serious / Re: Do you believe in a god, if so why?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:30:25 AM »
Not since I was 9 years old.
I get it.
Hm?
Spoiler
Genuinely not trying to downplay anyone's beliefs here.I simply was around 9 years old when I started questioning the religious beliefs my parents had raised me on and decided that it was all a bunch of crap. I've been an atheist ever since.
He was referring to this
Spoiler
>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Shrek so much, I had all the merchandise and movies
>I pray to Shrek every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Shrek is love" I say; "Shrek is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Shrek
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It's Shrek
>I am so happy
He whispers into my ear "This is my swamp."
>He grabs me with his powerful ogre hands and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Shrek
>He penetrates my butt-hole
>It hurts so much but I do it for Shrek
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Shrek
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>My dad walks in
>Shrek looks him straight in the eyes and says "It's all ogre now."
>Shrek leaves through my window
>Shrek is love. Shrek is life.
Ah, makes sense. Pretty familiar with that copypasta but never paid much attention to the specific age.

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The Flood / Re: First time on offsite
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:27:54 AM »
Welcome. I'm sure you'll find this place to be much superior to the mess B.net is these days.

15010
Serious / Re: Do you believe in a god, if so why?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:20:16 AM »
Not since I was 9 years old.
I get it.
Hm?
Spoiler
Genuinely not trying to downplay anyone's beliefs here.I simply was around 9 years old when I started questioning the religious beliefs my parents had raised me on and decided that it was all a bunch of crap. I've been an atheist ever since.

15011
Serious / Re: What Should the US Drinking Age Be?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:17:15 AM »
I don't particularly see a reason why the government should regulate at what age its citizens can drink alcohol
I feel that imposing reasonable limits on the access young and hormonal teens at the height of their puberty have to a substance that will not only turn them loud and obnoxious and will render their already poor judgment, reasoning skills and sense of responsibility even worse than normal, but has also been proven to have nefarious effects on the development of a young and not yet fully formed brain, is a pretty good reason to regulate a drinking age.

15012
Serious / Re: Do you believe in a god, if so why?
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:12:45 AM »
Not since I was 9 years old.

15013
Gaming / Re: PC master race thread? PC master race thread.
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:09:29 AM »
I've been waiting for I situation where I can use this.

Quote
"We can and will outperform your graphical settings, even on a budget. 
 
We have and will continue to have a larger library of games, for less money too. Our specs are better than your specs. 
 
We can swap between our games, media and work at the push of a button, whilst maintaining our progress. We can breathe new life into our boring games for free.
 
We have more options, we have total control of those options, if hardware fails, we replace it, if software fails, we can fix it - if we're not a total f*ck-up, we can prevent these things from happening altogether. 
 
We can optimize, we can adapt, we can upgrade and overcome. There is nothing we cannot rip, no format we cannot play with. We can play your old games with new hardware, and find ways for our old hardware to play newer games. 
 
We will never fall. 
 
We are the elite.
 
We are the PC Master Race and we will never be vanquished."
That is some grade A fedora-tipping neckbeard cringy shit man.
it's totally super srs man.
I'm glad it isn't to you, but I know people to who it is. There's a lot of idiots involved in this petty gaming system war.

You know I'm only kidding with the whole PC Master Race thing right? I'm not a PC Nazi.

Spoiler
Or am I? <_<
No worries, I wasn't talking about you Deci.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:08:03 AM »
Welcome to the wonderful world of the Dark Souls 2 PvP meta
Biatches please, I've been playing DS2 PVP since the beta came out and put hundreds of hours into DS1 and its multiplayer. I am no stranger to how utterly shit this community usually is.

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Gaming / Re: No Mans Sky
« on: September 26, 2014, 02:04:49 AM »

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Serious / Re: So, how is extrajudicial murder not unconstitutional?
« on: September 25, 2014, 06:07:32 PM »
Amendment VI:-
In all criminal prosecutions
There's your answer. These people weren't murdered because they were prosecuted and neither was there any intention to ever prove their personal guilt. They were killed because they're combatants and hostile forces posing a threat to the safety of the US. Although debatable, it's generally accepted that taking these people out does not violate their constitutional rights as it is not considered part or result of a criminal prosecution but rather a matter of national security or warfare.

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Gaming / Re: PC master race thread? PC master race thread.
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:56:53 PM »
For you laptop guys check this out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=34-725-001

It's about the most fucking ridiculous gaming laptop out there. SLI ON A FUCKING LAPTOP
My Lenovo Y510P supports SLI too.

15018
Gaming / Re: [CLOSED, results posted]PSA: Sep7agon game night coordination
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:55:36 PM »
You only subtract 12 after noon.

3 am is still 03:00.
3 pm is 15:00.
Whoops, that was supposed to be pm, not am.

15019
Gaming / Re: So Far Loving the New Destiny Update
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:27:35 PM »
wut error code u gon get???

15020
Gaming / Re: PC master race thread? PC master race thread.
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:25:46 PM »
Ignore. Damn, I did it again.
I am watching this unfold live. Funniest thing I've seen today. ;)
I kept clicking reply instead of quote. Does reply notify the person, or do you just have to check back either way?
I don't think it does, but notifications are pretty broken on this site anyways.

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Gaming / Re: PC master race thread? PC master race thread.
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:04:55 PM »
Buying a gaming laptop soon

It might be cheaper and more powerful to build your own PC instead.

Eh, I was going to build a PC but ended up buying a laptop instead. Cost a bit of extra money but I the whole building part worried me so I'm fine with the higher cost.
Plus that portability man.

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Gaming / Re: [CLOSED, results posted]PSA: Sep7agon game night coordination
« on: September 25, 2014, 05:02:04 PM »
Maybe you got confused with the 24hr notation? 16:00 is 4pm, not 6pm, a mistake I've seen many people make.
Oh....
Just add or subtract 12.
16-12 = 4 pm.
20-12 = 8 pm.
3pm = 15:00.

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Gaming / Re: PC master race thread? PC master race thread.
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:59:18 PM »
Ignore. Damn, I did it again.
I am watching this unfold live. Funniest thing I've seen today. ;)

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Gaming / Re: [CLOSED, results posted]PSA: Sep7agon game night coordination
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:52:42 PM »
I hope those people actually took the time to convert their time to GMT so that it would be accurate.
I honestly am doubtful about that. Seems unlikely that the vast majority of the forum is most available at 10-12am considering those are common school and work hours.
Well 16-20 GMT converted to EST is 2-6 PM. 16-20 GMT and EST were the most popular choices so it seems a little reasonable.
16-20 GMT is 11-3 PM EST, not 2-6.
http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/gmt-to-est-converter

Am I using this wrong?
I don't know, but it's currently 10:50pm GMT and 5:50pm EST. That's a 5 hour time difference, so 4pm GMT is 11am EST, and 8pm GMT is 3pm EST.

Maybe you got confused with the 24hr notation? 16:00 is 4pm, not 6pm, a mistake I've seen many people make.

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Gaming / Re: [CLOSED, results posted]PSA: Sep7agon game night coordination
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:42:26 PM »
I hope those people actually took the time to convert their time to GMT so that it would be accurate.
I honestly am doubtful about that. Seems unlikely that the vast majority of the forum is most available at 10-12am considering those are common school and work hours.
Well 16-20 GMT converted to EST is 2-6 PM. 16-20 GMT and EST were the most popular choices so it seems a little reasonable.
16-20 GMT is 11-3 PM EST, not 2-6.

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Gaming / Re: [CLOSED, results posted]PSA: Sep7agon game night coordination
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:20:33 PM »
I hope those people actually took the time to convert their time to GMT so that it would be accurate.
I honestly am doubtful about that. Seems unlikely that the vast majority of the forum is most available at 10-12am considering those are common school and work hours.

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Gaming / Re: I cannot wait for Bloodborne
« on: September 25, 2014, 02:57:24 PM »
there's that dark souls-esque multiplat coming soon anyways

What?

MLG DarkSouls online £69 a month free to play.

Spoiler
I have no idea either
Pretty sure he's talking about Lords of the Fallen.

15028
Gaming / Re: Dragon's Dogma
« on: September 25, 2014, 02:13:51 PM »
flee wtf bro I totally woulda thought you'd have liked it.

The game takes about an hour to actually get into. You gotta rank up your vocation and grab some skills. you get some dope ass moves and then you and your party can go on crazy monster hunting adventures. It's awesome.
It's just not my thing I guess. The party, the quests, the talking. It all felt bland and ultimately like a chore to me, so I stopped playing.

15029
Serious / Re: How do you feel about abortion?
« on: September 25, 2014, 11:49:48 AM »
But what about the rights of the taxpayer? They paid for it and put the cargo there. Surely they should have a say in this too.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls
« on: September 25, 2014, 11:05:49 AM »
Gotta love Dark Souls 2 lol.

YouTube


LOL
Yeah, some of the Dark Souls 2 PC hacks are pretty hilarious. People punching at a 100 strikes per minute and throwing moonlight greatsword R2s at you with every punch, among others.

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