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The Flood / Re: Climbs down chimney
« on: December 26, 2014, 05:33:39 AM »
2 cookies weren't enough
POST-CHRISTMAS BOMBING BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

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Gaming / Re: Do you nickname your pokemon?
« on: December 26, 2014, 05:33:01 AM »
Nope, never.

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The Flood / Re: 19-year-old British man arrested over "offensive tweet"
« on: December 25, 2014, 04:01:54 PM »
This is something I want to see make it all the way to the ECtHR.

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The Flood / Re: It's So Fucking Dark In Here
« on: December 25, 2014, 03:53:17 PM »
inb4ban
Just too late, already banned.

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The Flood / Re: Whaet did you drink so fare
« on: December 25, 2014, 11:28:51 AM »
Nothing. Yesterday just champagne and wine.
Nothing like a little too much champagne amirite or amirite ;D
Uarerite but it was with the family, so I didn't even get remotely tipsy.

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The Flood / Re: Whaet did you drink so fare
« on: December 25, 2014, 11:15:44 AM »
Nothing. Yesterday just champagne and wine.

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The Flood / Re: Mele Kalikimaka
« on: December 25, 2014, 11:10:17 AM »
Vrolijk kerstfeest, flikkers.
*something* Christmas (?), fuckers.....or faggots
"Merry Christmas, faggots."

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The Flood / Re: Mele Kalikimaka
« on: December 25, 2014, 11:02:25 AM »
Vrolijk kerstfeest, flikkers.

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The Flood / Re: Merry Christmas from London
« on: December 25, 2014, 10:45:04 AM »
post a cool picture you've taken today.
I haven't really taken any pictures today. Is that supposed to be a thing?

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The Flood / Re: Christmas Preasent Thread
« on: December 25, 2014, 09:53:39 AM »
Clothes.
A belt.
Plane ticket to the US.
A ton of nice plates and utensils for when I get to move in with my girlfriend.
Money.

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Gaming / Re: Guy literally shits himself on CS:GO case opening.
« on: December 25, 2014, 06:36:43 AM »
I'm calling fake on this one.

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Septagon / Re: 3 Strikes, 3 Sets
« on: December 25, 2014, 05:19:08 AM »
But, Sand, how would you feel about the idea of monitors being able to dole out "ultra-lite" bans of anywhere from 30 minutes to like two hours, in order to stop an immediate shit-flinging or undesirable behaviour, which isn't exceptionally serious?
Something like that would require a serious discussion on the monitor role. At its conception, the monitor position was not strictly speaking supposed to be staff. Cheat himself said that they are not some kind of lite-mods, but that they are intended to be exemplary members that can provide a bridge and means of communication between the members and the mods. They are there to help the community, bring certain things to the attention of the mods and communicate the staff's interpretation of certain rules to the general members.

I'm not saying all of this is always the case here, which is only natural for a community our size, but the monitors have their tools to help others, not to regulate them. For that purpose, they can move, merge and sticky threads, and now lock them in the face of Anarchy.

I'm not opposed to actually discussing and overhauling this, but there needs to be a real debate about what monitors are supposed to be and do first.

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The Flood / Re: Merry Christmas, and happy Thursgay!
« on: December 25, 2014, 04:41:09 AM »
Easy with the spam there Zesty.

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News / Re: Polling on Moderation Style for Sep7agon.Net
« on: December 24, 2014, 06:38:58 PM »
Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.
This was a pretty significant topic in my Legal Psychology class. I don't remember all that much of it, but it's pretty generally accepted that even if you don't explicitly and consciously make a decision based on the majority, it still plays a role in our subconscious.
I'd like to see proof or evidence of that. I'm not doubting you, but I mean, automatically, it's just inherently a dubious claim, isn't it?
That's not something I can provide just like that. I took this class almost three years ago and I'm not going to look for my notes at 1:30 in the morning.

It does make sense when you think about it though. As far as I remember, the logic behind it is that seeing the majority's opinion first will always set some kind of anchor point or standard that people will subconsciously use as a reference point when they form their own opinion. Instead of devising a completely unique and uninfluenced stance, people will conjure up their opinion in agreement, opposition or alteration of the majority opinion.

It's similar to answering the following questions. When the question is merely "what do you think of...?", people will reason and decide differently than when theyr' asked "what do you think of... and do you feel like it is indeed recommended?".

The reasons I saw this in my legal psychology class is because of how it can influence a jury's and defence attorney's decision. When someone is faced with the question of "what kind of punishment do you think this criminal deserves", they are a lot more inclined to come to a different answer when they're informed of what the public prosecutor (being in this case "the people" and the majority) is asking for than when they're not. The explanation lies again in the fact that people will subconsciously use the majority's opinion as a reference point and form their opinion in relation to this opinion.

Of course, the better informed someone is and the more they've thought about something beforehand, the less likely they are to actually be swayed by the majority opinion. But it does subconsciously play a role when you first get to see what others think before you make your own opinion.

So yeah, I can't really provide you with a source, but I still hope you at least get what I'm trying to say. I briefly looked for "majority opinion bias in trials" on Google but couldn't find much. Maybe Mr. Psy knows more about this.

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News / Re: Polling on Moderation Style for Sep7agon.Net
« on: December 24, 2014, 06:04:00 PM »
Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.
This was a pretty significant topic in my Legal Psychology class. I don't remember all that much of it, but it's pretty generally accepted that even if you don't explicitly and consciously make a decision based on the majority, it still plays a role in our subconscious.

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The Flood / Re: It's Christmas in 5 minutes.
« on: December 24, 2014, 06:00:21 PM »
An hour late, bonger.

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The Flood / Re: Discuss the Mods/Site Staff
« on: December 24, 2014, 03:04:05 PM »
3: Ban ponies.
I'd sooner ban you, you cheeky cunt m8.

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The Flood / Re: Discuss the Mods/Site Staff
« on: December 24, 2014, 02:59:37 PM »
Spoiler
What I believe a good feature would be, is the introduction of a chat / messaging box. Think of it as the current "moderator comments" section, but with a direct link to whoever submitted the report, meaning that he or she gets notified of this by an anonymous PM from "Septagon staff". All moderators can see what's said in there and have the option to contribute to the conversation if necessary, even though I doubt there's going to be more than a few posts made in there.

This would allow us to give direct and private feedback to whoever it is submitting the report. The only way to currently do the same is by going out of our way to send a PM, which takes time, feels like an extra chore for each report and isn't anonymous.

To make this a little more concrecte and practical, here's an example. So, someone reports a post, one of us sees it, assesses the situation and takes action (or not). As we do so, we'd simply type a comment in the messaging box before closing the report, such as:

           - We feel like the reported post does not break any rules and does not warrant staff action
           - Your report is currently being discussed and taken into consideration by the staff
           - The reported post has been edited to remove the parts that break the rules
           - The reported thread has been locked
           - The reported user has received a verbal warning / warning / ban
           - ...

I feel like this would allow for more direct and transparent moderation, as people would receive actual feedback on their reports and concerns.

What I think the major change would be is that it would be anonymous and standardized. Now we rarely ever give feedback to reports, while this would make it the standard solution.

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The Flood / Re: Discuss the Mods/Site Staff
« on: December 24, 2014, 02:54:10 PM »
Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?
The anon part has merit.
But why not just PM the user?
This is about communication, why not use the tools that are already there and for that particular use?

Because Flee's system would link right to the report - there is already a comment system on reports for moderator's to use to add comments - those comments would be sent to the reporter as Anonymous PM's.

So it would say

"Report received, looking into"
"Warning given"
Etc.
But then, why not just automate it if you go that far?

Because, at the point it becomes automated, it's impersonal and loses the whole "communication" aspect.

PMs work and are there for use.
You said yourself that Psy already does a lot through them. Why is this different?

It just seems that hiding which mod is doing the moderating, links back to the whole "mods are afraid of backlash when they moderate" thing I and others have talked about.

Either get shit done and drop the popularity actif this is the case, or step down and let someone willing to take hits do the job right.
Let me just go copy my other post to explain this better.

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The Flood / Re: Discuss the Mods/Site Staff
« on: December 24, 2014, 02:52:35 PM »
Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?
Doesn't feel personal enough.

I think - as long as we have the monitors - they should serve the role as communicators. You could modify such a system, and make it so moderators choose the response to be made and then the monitors "pick up" the various responses and personally deliver them to whichever user on behalf of the moderator.
But that would just be a pretty pointless extra work. I'm not opposed to giving monitors more abilities and a better defined role, but it seems like a hassle and a delay to communicate what I do to the monitors so that they can further deliver the message to the members. Why not just let me write a quick comment that gives the person reporting a post immediate feedback.

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The Flood / Re: Discuss the Mods/Site Staff
« on: December 24, 2014, 02:43:13 PM »
Regarding communication between the mods and members, I had a recent suggestion that basically included a response window with each report. Every mod dealing with a report would then provide a quick and anonymous response on what they did and why. Does anyone feel like this would be a good idea?

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Is this going to be an annual thing? Comms stopping by with gifts for the holidays?

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Yes.
Even you, Byrne? Tu quoque, fili mi?

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A quick reminder that the no spam rule is only disapplied to a certain degree. As Icy said before, "if a person spams one whole page completely of just their posts, I'm sure we'd discuss something."

Go fast, but within reason.
If that's aimed at me, you can fuck right off.
It's aimed at everyone here. No need to take it personally, I'm just reminding everyone that just because this thread is back, the rules regarding spam aren't all gone.

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The Flood / Re: Now here is something depressing.
« on: December 24, 2014, 06:08:24 AM »
Things will get better Psy.

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A quick reminder that the no spam rule is only disapplied to a certain degree. As Icy said before, "if a person spams one whole page completely of just their posts, I'm sure we'd discuss something."

Go fast, but within reason.

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He's bad at Dark Souls so that's reason enough to dislike him in my book

Filthy casul
1v1 me m8, Oolacile Township chaos zweihander unlocked deadangles only fucker, I'll wreck your mum.

PLOT TWIST my mum is dead
Yeah because I wrecked her so hard.


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Gaming / Re: I just played Halo with my friends
« on: December 24, 2014, 05:35:10 AM »
got my first killing spree (ever).
Verby my man!


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He's bad at Dark Souls so that's reason enough to dislike him in my book

Filthy casul
1v1 me m8, Oolacile Township chaos zweihander unlocked deadangles only fucker, I'll wreck your mum.

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