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The Flood / Re: What shows have you been watching lately?
« on: June 08, 2020, 07:30:07 AM »
Honestly nothing new is really grabbing my attention at this moment in time. I got into the first season of Last Kingdom if you're into historical Anglo Saxon and Viking aesthetics but my interests started waning in season 2 and haven't really picked it back up again.

I rewatched The Terror (more historical kino set in the Victorian era) which isn't a new show, but still remains really good. It has Master and Commander vibes with early GoT internal scheming and politics if that's your kind of scene. Also has various supernatural elements going on as well.

I read most of the book series that The Last Kingdom is based on a few years ago, was a good read but I got a bit bored of it just being Uhtred being betrayed and failing to get Bebbanburg over and over again. The show was pretty cool but it lost my interest too lol
Also find it really hard to emotionally connect to Uhtred the way he goes through wives like they're empty crisp packets or something.

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The Flood / Re: What shows have you been watching lately?
« on: June 07, 2020, 06:27:15 PM »
Honestly nothing new is really grabbing my attention at this moment in time. I got into the first season of Last Kingdom if you're into historical Anglo Saxon and Viking aesthetics but my interests started waning in season 2 and haven't really picked it back up again.

I rewatched The Terror (more historical kino set in the Victorian era) which isn't a new show, but still remains really good. It has Master and Commander vibes with early GoT internal scheming and politics if that's your kind of scene. Also has various supernatural elements going on as well.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 07, 2020, 04:52:16 PM »
‘It’s sad what ‘appened to that black geezer in America but all this rioting and looting is just not on mate’



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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:27:58 PM »
Hello fellow humans, it is I, corporation! I care deeply about your cause and, *checks notes* black people. Please purchase my products and consume my media.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:20:14 PM »
2020 is on some season finale energy.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 04:03:16 PM »
And yet racial inequality and systematic discrimination is still a pervasive and ingrained problem that hasn't dissappeared.

No one here is positing the notion that innocent lives need to be ruined to see any significant change, at least not seriously. But this instant jump to riots and looting being the main focus of concern, when it's actually a symptom of the rotten system, is a serious misalignment of where the priorities should be.
The point is not to encourage the violence by making it out to be a necessary evil to create change within a rotten system.

If you don't believe innocent lives need ruining, then I don't understand how you can say that "the system makes it necessary."
When you have a culture so rife with inequality and an infrastructure so utterly disinterested in making any sort of meaningful systemic change then yes, civil disorder is an inevitability at that point. That's what I'm referring to when I say the system makes it necessary.

There's a stark difference between actually condoning rioting and pointing out the societal hallmarks which has lead to it.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 01:32:05 PM »
aaaand with these last few posts I hope now you understand why cops bring riot shields and armored vehicles to large, riled-up protests.
New Zealand, London and Berlin have all been subject to street wide "riled up" emotionally charged protests and been met with no civil disorder.

I wonder why that is. I wonder what the common denominator here could be.

Oink oink.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 01:03:07 PM »
If your biggest concern right now is civil unrest and property damage as a response to state officiated murder then there's not much else to tell you other than that your priorities and moral compass have exited the Earth's atmosphere.
Innocent people are being beaten, shot at, and having their businesses destroyed. You don't believe all of that is somehow necessary do you?
Me? I don't. The system has somehow made it necessary.

How many times have we been down this road with peaceful protest where nothing changes? Believe me, I'd really like to live in a world where we can kumbaya the problems away by singing John Lennons Imagine but it's a far cry from reality.
Sorry, I don't think hurting innocent people is necessary to fight oppression. I think that's a very dangerous belief seriously lacking in empathy.

There's a reason MLK said that, "darkness cannot drive out darkness, only the light can do that." His movement didn't go around singing kumbaya, but they didn't go around hurting people for no reason either, and yet they somehow managed to get the civil rights act enacted and abolish segregation and Jim Crow laws.
And yet racial inequality and systematic discrimination is still a pervasive and ingrained problem that hasn't dissappeared.

No one here is positing the notion that innocent lives need to be ruined to see any significant change, at least not seriously. But this instant jump to riots and looting being the main focus of concern, when it's actually a symptom of the rotten system, is a serious misalignment of where the priorities should be.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:31:02 PM »
If your biggest concern right now is civil unrest and property damage as a response to state officiated murder then there's not much else to tell you other than that your priorities and moral compass have exited the Earth's atmosphere.
Innocent people are being beaten, shot at, and having their businesses destroyed. You don't believe all of that is somehow necessary do you?
Me? I don't. The system has somehow made it necessary.

How many times have we been down this road with peaceful protest where nothing changes? Believe me, I'd really like to live in a world where we can kumbaya the problems away by singing John Lennons Imagine but it's a far cry from reality.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 11:58:30 AM »
Hard power gets met with hard power. Let's not forget that the catalyst to these riots and protests is because a state funded fascist essentially curbstomped a guy who pleaded for his life for 9 minutes over a fucking counterfeit 20 dollar bill, allegedly. This is also just one of the multitude of incidences of police brutality that haven't even been documented.

And people wonder why a violent response ensued.

If your biggest concern right now is civil unrest and property damage as a response to state officiated murder then there's not much else to tell you other than that your priorities and moral compass have exited the Earth's atmosphere.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:13:15 AM »
The issue is further complicated by the fact that everyone is the States is packing heat, (so cops are on edge at all times anyway) and now they are on extra-edge because several states have gone full revolution-mode.
So protestors are going to be seen as targets by the police, regardless of their actual threat. Why are they in charge of maintaining the peace again? And given guns?
Not defending the pig's behaviour but Nick does have a point about the prevalence of guns and gun culture in the states. Given how liberal it is for basically anyone and everyone to carry a firearm it would be really silly for the police not to come armed for the potentiality of self preservation.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 30, 2020, 04:25:44 PM »

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:50:34 PM »
I agree with Mordo that CEOs don't deserve in any way to be bathing in cash while the people actually responsible for keeping companies afloat can barely survive off of their wages, but Jesus dude, you're not helping your point in the least bit. You sound like the degenerates in my ghetto middle and high schools who are all now in the ground or replicating SecondClass' existance.
I'd rather sound like second class than some  subservient bootlicker who thinks CEOS somehow deserve the palacial salary they get for scratching their arse.

Get some fucking perspective.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:42:29 PM »
Seeing as that is not for the foreseeable future, when do you suggest we reopen?
When we have sustainable control of the virus via social distancing.
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I won't argue there but ignoring the rich and looking at the poor or hell even middle class, they are part of the economy too. Whether you think they're slaves to wages or whatever, their survival is tied to the economy as of right now so what do you think we should do about that?
Continue social distancing and until deaths and infection rates are controllable. What about this is so convoluted.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »
What the fuck is your problem dude? Jesus Christ you're unbelievable.

Is lil wagie still talking? Don't worry, I'm sure the mouse will allow you those extra dollars for overtime. Massa mouse treats us goods. Wese a good slave for massa.
OH MY LAWWWD LAWD LAWD

WESE SORRY MASSA. DON'T DEDUCT ARE WAGES MASSA WE NEEDS IT TO SURVIVE

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:24:13 PM »
Define both "grotesquely excessive" and "just scraping by". Specifically however I want to know what you mean by "just scraping by"; what counts as making too little for you?

Tell me why CEOs deserve such grotesquely excessive salaries while their workers scrape by an existence and then I'll answer your question.
Is lil wagie still talking? Don't worry, I'm sure the mouse will allow you those extra dollars for overtime. Massa mouse treats us goods. Wese a good slave for massa.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 07:11:05 PM »
Tell me what is inherently wrong with a CEO making millions of dollars without using Reddit-tier soijack memes. Bonus points if you're able to bring up other positions on the corporate ladder instead of just the basic entry-level ones and their salaries as well.

>as he defends a multi millionaire CEO's salary

Y-yes massa mouse, the big bad rioters are the real problem. Please let me go back to being a 12 dollar an hour wage slave massa. I'll be a good boi massa, I'll generate your profits for you. Massa treats me good mmhmm.
Tell me why CEOs deserve such grotesquely excessive salaries while their workers scrape by an existence and then I'll answer your question.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:55:09 PM »
At what point do you think we're never going to get infected?
The point where we develop a a vaccine, if and when it's possible
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And what do you think the economy is?
Where the opulent rich get richer and those at the bottom get the shaft, as it has always been since the inception of capitalism.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:44:48 PM »
How's leather taste wagie?
and just say that I completely agree with him on not only Floyd's death but also the looting/rioting between mom & pop stores and big business stores.

I wouldn't know but I imagine it tastes about the same as the milk being squeezed out of the public teat that you so vehemently defend.
>as he defends a multi millionaire CEO's salary

Y-yes massa mouse, the big bad rioters are the real problem. Please let me go back to being a 12 dollar an hour wage slave massa. I'll be a good boi massa, I'll generate your profits for you. Massa treats me good mmhmm.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:08:38 PM »
One of these days you'll grow up.

How's leather taste wagie?

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:04:57 PM »
https://www.wthr.com/article/vermont-orders-walmart-target-stop-selling-non-essential-items-store
>No purchasing gardening supplies because growing your own produce is more dangerous than buying produce that has been coughed on by people who may have Covid-19.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/officials-paddleboarder-arrested-at-malibu-pier-for-flouting-state-stay-at-home-order/
>No paddleboarding in the ocean by yourself because you might infect the lifeguard with Covid-19.

>https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editorial/mixed-signals-on-fishing-during-covid-19-crisis/374430
>No fishing (a usually solitary hobby or one with minimal P2P contact) in Washington state.

>isolated incidences
>game and fucking fish mag

Go boomer somewhere else.
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It's funny that you say that considering:
1. European and Asian countries are starting to reopen slowly as well.

Yup. And South Korea saw 40 new fresh covid cases as a result.

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2. American workers who weren't laid off (because small businesses with owners who are just scraping by can't survive an elongated lock down process) are furloughed as well (I was furloughed).

Congratulations. The UK and every other developed nation is paying 80% of workers wages. Leaving your own personal circumstances and anecdotes aside, what exactly is America doing to rectify this?

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3. You talk about "American capitalist greed" for wanting to go back to work yet some of the biggest corporations like Walmart, Amazon, and Target have been making money hand over fist due to this pandemic and the top richest people in the world only got more rich because of the pandemic (Link here).

What exactly is this refuting here? That corporate greed is excelling during one of the biggest collective human catastrophes since the Great depression? Yeah no fucking shit sherlock.

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4. This pandemic and it's lock down is sending millions of people into crippling poverty (Link here).
WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE ECONOMY

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:52:21 PM »
I'll only bring up the first three minutes or so because there's quite a bit in that video worth discussing and I'd rather not bite off more than I want to chew (even though I could), and just say that I completely agree with him on not only Floyd's death but also the looting/rioting between mom & pop stores and big business stores. However the one thing I keep seeing constantly for years now is the comparison between a CEOs salary and an hourly employee's wage and I really wish this comparison would just stop. There's a lot more involved than just those two numbers, not to mention the eight or so ranks between these two individuals and their salaries/job descriptions and none of the other details are ever brought up even though it would show a more complete picture on how a "big business" is run because it mostly certainly runs significantly different than a small business.

YouTube


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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:43:30 PM »
Fuck big businesses and fuck the pigs. Rest in power George Floyd.

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YouTube

I said my peace Chrissy.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 05:21:49 PM »
If the US is doing so unbelievably poorly, how about you respond to the numbers Das brought up?

He posted a graph with no source and no verifiable confirmation. I have no reason to doubt the statistics but how can I contest something that is tantamount to a picture with no source to back it up?
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Or the fact that a good portion of the US numbers are from places with strict draconian lock down measures?

Would really appreciate a source on this that isn't a jpeg.
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Or are you going to ignore it and just make laughably false insinuations about 30 million unemployed people some more since that seems to be your biggest gripe.

This is more a US societal problem than it is a Covid problem. Your entire economy is predicated on a dog eat dog mentality that if the poor can't cut it then they're left on the scrap heap, even during a crisis which they have no control over. Every other developed nation has their workers on a furlough scheme because they recognise that saving lives takes precedent over capitalist greed and producitivity

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:55:54 PM »
>"Not locking down forever will be a disaster!"
>Japan did minimal at the wake of pandemic
>Everyone claims the country was going to become a disaster as well
>They handled the pandemic fine because of everything else other than their government response
>"Stay the FUCK home!"

Yeah, you sure showed me.

Le ebin 4channel greentext.

I ask again, what's this argument shattering point you seem to have arrived at here? The US population has proved time and time again that they lack the capability of putting safety before individual preferences throughout this crisis. Japan has not. Your comparisons are bogus.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:40:40 PM »
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll
Haha propaganda machine go brrrr
NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.
who mentioned trump?

The Chinese government deserves criticism.
I agree. But it's also possible to hold the opinion that China deserves its day in the ICJ and also condemn America's handling of the crisis. Its not a mutually exclusive concept.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:36:20 PM »
Next time pick a better example.
From your own article:

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But Japan’s version of “lockdown” – requests to avoid unnecessary outings, work from home and observe social distancing – came across as a timid response to a situation that risked spiraling out of control. The dispatch of two reusable masks to every household was met with derision, as people posted photographs on social media of the small, and in some cases dirty, “Abenomasks” – a play on the leader’s economic policy dubbed “Abenomics”.
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Abe’s performance throughout the crisis has been uneven, according to Tobias Harris, an expert on Japanese politics at Teneo consultancy. “I think he has struggled to stay ahead of events since the beginning, has not communicated effectively, and has been poorly served by his lieutenants.”
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The Abe administration has gained few political dividends for its response; instead, most plaudits have gone to the quiet determination shown by the public, armed with virus-challenging habits formed long before the pandemic.
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“I don’t think the falling number of infections is due to government policies,” said Ryuji Koike, the assistant director of Tokyo Medical and Dental university hospital. “I think it looks like Japan is doing well thanks to things that can’t be measured, like daily habits and ‘Japanese behaviour’.”
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Japan’s incremental exit from the state of emergency continues. Last week, Abe ended the measure in 39 prefectures, adding another three this week. Tokyo and four other prefectures could join them as early as Monday, according to media reports.

You're wrong, and that's okay. Things will go back to normal before the end of the year, most people are finally starting to grow some common sense. In your own words: cope.
Lol, what exactly is your trump card here? You referenced Japan as a fuck up in regards to the governmental handling of the crisis, and yeah I would agree, but I also explained to you exactly why this is not an apt example due to the pre-existing societal norms of Japan's society. They dodged a bullet due to them already being extremely hygienic as a cultural practice way before the prospect of a pandemic was even plausible.

The comparison you're making here is like saying a poverty stricken fitness freak has lived to 80 whereas an obese hamplanet with all the medical care in the world has made it to 50.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:09:43 PM »
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll
Haha propaganda machine go brrrr
NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.

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