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The Flood / Re: Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:27:43 PM »
Oh and I just saw what you did to Verbatim’s good thread. If this isn’t the definition of β€œmanchildren”, then I don’t know what is.

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The Flood / Re: i just had an epiphany
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:25:21 PM »
I watched that show religiously as a kid, liked it much better than Spongebob which I found creepy at times.

Take that as you will.

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The Flood / Re: Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:21:00 PM »
most of your posts are excuses for your actions or explanations for your condition or whining about how people react to you or whatever

i think at least some of your problems here will go away if you stop making everything about yourself
That’s actually very fair, and I’m sincerely going to try to fix that. I’m going to try to make some quality posts that inspire thought in the future. Thanks for this bit of criticism.

And I’m not even going to quote the guy beneath you. I never sucked off a hobo for meth. I gave a temporarily homeless man oral sex because I was high and I knew him well. The meth came long afterward and wasn’t even tied to the oral sex whatsoever. And the meth was literally a small amount of powder on my gums and nothing else more.

It’s not as drastic as you’re making it out to be, but no, it wasn’t a great time.

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The Flood / Re: Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 12:15:33 PM »
Shitposting is dumb. Make quality posts and stop acting like actual toddlers please.

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The Flood / Was there an attempt at disrupting order here?
« on: April 18, 2020, 06:39:02 AM »
I hope I'm missing out on some grand irony, because otherwise it literally makes you all look like a bunch of nine year olds who just found out that they can connect to the Internet on their DSi

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The Flood / Re: Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 18, 2020, 06:34:42 AM »
idk why you guys give SC so much grief. The lad has passion.
tbh his often incoherent weirdness and the aggressive and annoyed response to it is maybe the most amusing thing left on this forum to me these days.
Okay, that makes more sense. It makes more sense if this hostility toward me is just to try to get a reaction. Unfortunately, I'm a real, grounded person, and so those kinds of things don't get to me. But thanks for clearing this up.

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The Flood / Can we clear all this up?
« on: April 17, 2020, 08:09:55 AM »
One last thread about me, then I'll go back to posting about AMC's The Walking Dead I promise.

But maybe I won't. That's the point of this thread. I am a longstanding member on both Sep7agon and Bungie, but that doesn't give me some kind of ticket to just be this annoying menace around here. As most of you know, I have vastly different sensibilities and opinions than most of this forum. I thought for a while that was the problem, my extreme liberalism and feminism, but then I realized that there are many other users who are just as extreme in their contrasting opinions without being quite as much of a pariah as me. Verbatim and IcyWind, both liberals, for example.

So without this OP becoming too long for people to reasonably read, I am requesting each one of you give a sincere, non-memey (or memey with actual advice in it) post that briefly details what exactly I'm doing wrong. I say "what exactly I'm doing wrong" because I'm not the best at reading between the lines and would like as much directness here as possible. In exchange for an honest piece of advice on how to become a less-despised poster here on this forum, I'll give you an "honest opinion of" post, because everyone seems to like that.

Thank you, and I look forward to your responses!

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The Flood / Re: Wait sandtrap died??
« on: April 17, 2020, 07:59:00 AM »
Can confirm

http://sep7agon.net/the-flood/sandtrap-70947/30/

"Yep, don't have kids"

I don't think he even read the fucking OP.
normally i'd be the last person to defend secondclass, but given how much i can relate to tactlessly injecting my personal beliefs where they don't necessarily belong, something compelled me to clear this up

all she's really trying to say here is "the fact that cancer can kill such good people is so cruel and so terrible that it's a wonder why we continue to bring more children into this world when they're all so very likely to have a similar fate"

she wasn't necessarily trying to be disrespectful; it was just a combination of very poor timing and very poor phrasing

so yeah secondclass is garbage and that post was bad, but not for the reasons you think
I'm not good with loss, and when Sandtrap died, my grief manifested through anger. That was the point of my "don't have kids" line, and yes you hit the nail on the head above. But more than that, I just didn't know what else to say. Do I talk about Sandtrap's and I PMs, about how he always had faith in me and talked me through my dark, self-harm, self-hate times? No, that would just seem like posturing especially to this forum which hates me. Do I try to eulogize him, come up with some grand summation of not only his life but his values/noble traits? No, as you can see from my recent posts I'm not nearly eloquent enough to do that.

So I said what was truly on my mind. I tried to display my anger through the sentence that summed up everything I felt, not only about Sandtrap but of the bigger problem: death itself. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't making much sense, but I never meant any disrespect toward Sandtrap, and I'll leave this post by just restating that he was one of the best not only users, but people that I've known.

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The Flood / Re: Wait sandtrap died??
« on: April 17, 2020, 07:54:11 AM »
it is very weird that you didn't remember it happening, though

drugs probably
Would it be tasteless to admit that I did remember this happening, and the OP of this thread was a on-drugs, really not cool way to kind of, bring it back up in a light way? I mean, it was supposed to inspire incredulity that I didn't remember, yes. And that's not the way to bring this kind of thing back up, I know. In the spirit of you not completely thinking I lie about everything, I regret going about it this way.

With the message I've quoted, I had a clear opportunity to just blame it on drugs and say "oh yeah that is weird that I don't remember it happening", but I took the more convulted, muddy approach and attempted to display the truth of what actually happened. I'm not saying that makes it okay or anything, but I'm just trying to say that the truth of things is often so muddled, especially when it comes to the human brain and what it's truly intending/feeling.

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I didn't realize SecondClass was a Groomer.
Probably because I'm not. I know this must sound weird to the genuinely creepy populace of this forum, but it's possible to have healthy friendships with people below the age of 18 without any ulterior motives.

If I had kids who were teenagers I sure as hell wouldn't trust them talking to you of all people let alone being friends with them.

You're a horrible example to children.
Do you even remember why you dislike me? I've been nothing but nice to you.

Remember the time we switched accounts on here and I trusted you, and you were going to end up stealing it and making me look far more fucking worse than I already was on here?

Yeah, that's reason enough to dislike you. I was stupid to trust you, but I'm a lot wiser now.
Damn, I had a chance to do a cool swapping accounts thing with someone, and I ruined it by literally being the villain wow. Why did I do that? I remember now, but seriously. What was the reason, what was the angle? I remember when I had you watch a bunch of totally spies episodes for something, but everything else is honestly very cloudy. If you could go over it again we could probably have a more cognizant conversation here.

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I didn't realize SecondClass was a Groomer.
Probably because I'm not. I know this must sound weird to the genuinely creepy populace of this forum, but it's possible to have healthy friendships with people below the age of 18 without any ulterior motives.

If I had kids who were teenagers I sure as hell wouldn't trust them talking to you of all people let alone being friends with them.

You're a horrible example to children.
Do you even remember why you dislike me? I've been nothing but nice to you.

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I didn't realize SecondClass was a Groomer.
Probably because I'm not. I know this must sound weird to the genuinely creepy populace of this forum, but it's possible to have healthy friendships with people below the age of 18 without any ulterior motives.

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 10, 2020, 05:23:48 AM »
You belong in an asylum.
I belong in a museum!


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The Flood / Re: I've missed you guys
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:27:49 PM »
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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 08, 2020, 09:43:53 PM »
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But to actually respond without losing the essence of my previous reply:

I'm not perfect, and yes, as you relentlessly showed, I've done so many awful, duplicitous things online. I don't stand by them or have anything to say to justify them. But I beg anyone reading this to wonder, just for a second, why I did those things - not to forgive me, but to understand my madness. Verbatim seems to think my reasons lie in nothing but malice and a desire to entertain myself. That's the one thing he got wrong in his post. I'm not an expert on my own psychology, but I can promise you it wasn't that. It was more just, I wanted to be known. I wanted to have antics to be remembered by. I guess a desire for attention was part of it, but I wasn't trying to hurt people or be cruel. I was just trying to be someone else, I guess.

I don't have a season of personalities or whatever he said. I've changed in my life and at certain junctures of it, sometimes for the better, usually for the worse. But I'm not insincere past all of this. Please notice all of these links you've brought up are years old. I'm not trying to be anyone but myself anymore, and I desperately want to change how people see me. Sometimes people deserve second chances - not that I do - but I'd do it for any of you. I don't have some Stolen Fruit personality is what I'm saying. It's just me, and maybe in years if this forum is still around, then anyone who's left here with me will see that.

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And to make things crystal clear, none of the Adventure threads (book coming soon) had a single lie in them, and I would never hurt an animal. That cat's death was a fucking tragedy, and it still stings what people say about me there. Also, I would never lie about my gender or anything like that. I used to have messed up opinions about that, a long long time ago. Like in 2014. And if you don't know why I "held" those opinions then you're truly hopeless.

Long story short, I don't lie anymore. If you never accept that, then you'll always have the wrong idea about me. Which, I guess you don't really care about anyway. Which is fine. Me personally, I would be very discontent if I ever had an inkling of a thought that I might be wrong about my entire perception of someone.

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 06, 2020, 06:02:27 PM »
It was a joke for like one day, I don't "pretend" to be anyone.
yeah, you just lie about every aspect of your life constantly
Wrong! Wrong.

I don't lie at all, and every single thing I've claimed, I can verify. Try me!

Am I seriously still defined by shit I did on Bungie.net when I was 15? I don't fucking lie on the Internet. There's absolutely zero point to the conversations or online connections I've made, if I'm going to lie about a thing. I haven't lied on the Internet since I was a literal child. I'm 24 now. Seriously Jacob, try me. Say one thing you're iffy about the truth on, and I will verify the veracity of it, right here right now.

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 06, 2020, 05:53:04 PM »
i mean you literally just admitted that you have an alt on your own discord channel where you pretend to be your own childhood friend called Diane or some shit, right
It was a joke for like one day, I don't "pretend" to be anyone. I have some alts, sure, just like a lot of people. If that's seriously your excuse to treat me this way, then pardon me if I don't have much respect for you or or opinions in turn. Sucks that you were the one who set me on the path towards better values in the first place, a long time ago. But hey, people change, and evidently so have you.


so at this point, i'm 99% sure that you exclusively use the internet as a shapeshifting medium to play all these fake characters just to fuck with people
Not whatsoever. As I said, I have alts yes - get over it. I don't fuck with anyone, and honestly dude I can get rid of all of my alts if it goes 1% farther to convince people I'm a legitimate person.

And no, I'm not good with words or debates on here. So even if I'm not making sense right now, that doesn't mean that I'm not sincere.
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so yeah pardon me if i "misgender" you, you fake fuck lmao
Evil.

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 06, 2020, 05:43:59 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 06, 2020, 05:31:01 PM »
misgendering isn't cool for an alleged progressive Jacob

Also: getting off to weird stuff doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes you a victim of biology/your brain. You're such a hypocrite Verbatim, idc what these literal Trump supporters think, but the fact you just bandwagon with them because I'm unpopular here says a lot about your character.

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The Flood / Re: Im staying up all night
« on: April 06, 2020, 04:37:22 PM »
This is disturbing.

Also Class I'm sorry but you look creepy. Your look doesn't work at all.
Bruhs either gonna murder his family or diddle some kids

Well he’s got 13 year olds in his server so he’s bound to fall in love with one of them sooner or later
Disgusting, both of you. Seriously sick in the fucking mind.

Not only am I not a pedophile, but I'm happily engaged. This forum actually needs help.

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Septagon / Re: How do I delete my account?
« on: April 06, 2020, 06:52:34 AM »
Short Answer: You can't.

Long Answer: PM Cheat and request it. (He won't do it however.)
I permabanned them as requested. And it’s she (I think I can start enforcing that since I don’t have a dick anymore, right? Idk).
you could've enforced that any time lol

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The Flood / My review of Scorcese's "The Irishman"
« on: April 05, 2020, 11:41:24 PM »
just kidding, that's super boring and if you clicked here wanting a review of some pretentious movie then I sincerely feel bad for you

really what this thread is about, is vanilla pepsi. What even is this?? What is this flavor? Is it trying to be a cream soda? No - too carbony. Is it trying to be an actual soda? No - way too creamy / candyish. So WHAT is going on here? Is this just a classic failed drink, like a New Coke situation? Or is there something more here? Am I missing something?

I'm not saying it's bad, I just want to know what happened.

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Guess you should've changed it to Weenie Hut Jr's.

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looked like a fun time tho for realz
join we are fun

discord.gg/XETdAyk

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I am a positive influence

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The Flood / Re: My April Fools joke went terribly wrong
« on: April 01, 2020, 09:56:11 PM »
I have like 13 year olds on this server dude.
yikes
You're literally allowed to be 13 and on Discord, that's the minimum age. I started my Internet adventures at around that age on Bungie. My server locks off all the adult content behind roles dude. We're a whole functioning society, and societies have children in them sorry lol

yikes
Literally nothing wrong with what I said LOL. Go onto the server and I will give you access to view every chat, we do nothing but good things. Sometimes people who have been through the same thing come together, crazy right? Age is really irrelevant so please just stop

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The Flood / Re: i have an idea for a new multimedia discussion forum
« on: April 01, 2020, 09:50:28 PM »
"that's just your opinion" is nothing more than an empty non-sequitur that stifles discussion and fosters an atmosphere where people are afraid to speak their true minds without sugarcoating, walking on eggshells, or otherwise potentially hurting someone's feelings just for choosing to assert oneself in a way that doesn't insult the intelligence of everyone reading the post
Oh I get it. Like, if you say some really well-thought-out logical argument that didn't seem to have any flaws, to your dumb cousin or something. And they say in response "yeah well that's just your opinion." It's like a get out of jail free card where you can just say that and make it seem like you ended the discussion in a badass way, but it's just stupid. Definitely a poser move there.

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so it's not about free speech; if anything, posting shit like that is anti-free speech, and these rules would encourage more in-depth discussion, because it opens the door to better responses, such as "why do you feel this way?" which will inevitably lead to a more fruitful conversation or argument
ah I get you now, so literally like setting up guiderails for people so they dont fall over the edge of their backwards logic. It sucks because that's a forceful imposition, but at the same time it just generates so much positive moral utility at practically no downside that's it hard to turn it down.

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everyone over the age of 3 understands that nobody's opinions are factual, so there's absolutely no point in acknowledging the subjectivity of your statementsβ€”it's kind of like pointing out that the sky is blue; why would you even do that
100% agreed lol

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the only appropriate response to posts like that is to ban them, because they're essentially spam that contributes absolutely nothing
ahh I gotcha man



Your post got better the more I read of it

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The Flood / Re: My April Fools joke went terribly wrong
« on: April 01, 2020, 07:27:41 PM »
I have like 13 year olds on this server dude.
yikes
You're literally allowed to be 13 and on Discord, that's the minimum age. I started my Internet adventures at around that age on Bungie. My server locks off all the adult content behind roles dude. We're a whole functioning society, and societies have children in them sorry lol

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The Flood / Re: i have an idea for a new multimedia discussion forum
« on: April 01, 2020, 06:58:10 PM »
Sounds harsh, what's wrong with free speech?


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