Quote from: LC on August 14, 2016, 02:25:20 AM

Previous generations also grew up without electricity, running water, modern medicine, or toilet paper. I guess we should eschew those from our every day lives as well.

what the fuck? there arent good reasons to cut those out. there are for the internet.

i want my kids to learn values from me and have actual worldly knowledge. not acquire internet balls and learn keyboard swordsmanship.

Sure there are, it toughens them up, makes them learn how to actually survive instead or relying on electronics to do the work for them, and gets them out of the house. Relying on all these modern day conveniences just makes the average person weaker and less versatile than their predecessors.

Your 5 year old isn't going to be signing onto infowars to listen to the latest podcast from Alex Jones. The most they'll want to do is sign on to disney.com and play some games staring their favorite cartoon characters. If you want to make sure they only learn values from you you should keep them out of school then. Not only will they be exposed to other people and their values, but their schools and friends will have computers with internet access that they can use see and hear all the things you wont let them. What you want to do to your potential kids kind of reminds me of this kid I knew in high school. He had to keep the fact that he liked reading Harry Potter books a secret from his parents because they'd freak out if they knew he was "learning about witch craft", but every day at school or at another persons place he'd take the chance to read them because his parents weren't watching.. The only way you're going to have control over what your children see and hear is if you keep them at home their entire lives and only allow them to learn from you.

So if you're not going to go full fundie on your child and keep them in one of those weird compounds you should just accept the fact that your children are going to have more influences on them than just you when they're growing up and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

I'm by no means saying let them have free reign to do whatever they want, because as a parent you do have the obligation to ensure that your child becomes a productive member of society. Just that attempting to ensure the message in a big brother like fashion will probably only estrange you from your children if you aren't prepared to go the whole hog with a compound and everything.

I wouldn't do anything unless I felt that things were sorta getting ridiculous, or unhealthy. You can't stop people in their teens from curiously looking up some porn, because it's normal for that age. (Honestly, it's abnormal when someone ISN'T curious about sex) It's just sad that people would rather do so online with strangers than to find intimacy with the people near them.