I just finished watching DBZ: Battle of Gods for the first time.

 
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It was perfect. I was in awe the entire time.

Humour was, well... hilarious. And the ending was pretty unexpected.

Bills is such a non-generic villian for DBZ. It's going to be awesome how they continue on from this point... so excited with the new direction of Toriyama.

And the animation was something from otherworld. Amazing.

What did you guys think?


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I'll probably watch is some other time.


 
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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.


 
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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus i don't like the new style animation mixing 2D with 3D.
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when son goku did his god thingy i could only think of one thing...

"Your hair! what are you, gay?"


 
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when son goku did his god thingy i could only think of one thing...

"Your hair! what are you, gay?"


Yeh.


 
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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


 
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I didn't really like it. Maybe because it was in Japanese, I need to buy the english dub asap. WEll that's if it exists.


 
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I didn't really like it. Maybe because it was in Japanese, I need to buy the english dub asap. WEll that's if it exists.

The english dub was just released this week...


 
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I didn't really like it. Maybe because it was in Japanese, I need to buy the english dub asap. WEll that's if it exists.

The english dub was just released this week...
omg brb


 
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I didn't really like it. Maybe because it was in Japanese, I need to buy the english dub asap. WEll that's if it exists.

The english dub was just released this week...
omg brb

I recommend actually buying it... the visuals are stunning on Blu-Ray.


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.

Vegeta was able to fight bills because he got pissed as hell. Remember when kid gohan got pissed and was able to punch freeza into the ground?

And it wasn't so much just the energy, it was the fact that apparently having exactly 5 saiyans give energy turned him into a God, allowing him to actually hurt bills in the first place.
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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.

First off, Garlic Jr. isn't canon. Secondly, Goku wasn't defeated by Cell like he was with Bills.

He's the most original because he mirror's Goku. He's not a bad guy, he just happens to be the God of destruction.

He didn't lose to Kid Buu. Otherwise Kid Buu would still be alive. We're not talking technicalities, we're talking factual outcomes. And factually, Goku won.

Like I said, Toriyama made Vegeta stronger than Goku in SSj2 form because he wanted to emphasize the shift from focus on transformations. Just like in the Cell saga, Goku and Gohan were far stronger in their mastered forms of Ssj1 than they were when they first attained it.

I'm pretty sure that Gohan can still turn super saiyan. But that might be left up to interpretation.



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Dat animation. Dat animation. I'm nowhere near as interested in DBZ as I used to be, but this movie was great.


 
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Dat animation. Dat animation. I'm nowhere near as interested in DBZ as I used to be, but this movie was great.

My thoughts exactly.


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It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2

Form of Super Saiyan is not a distinct plateau of strength. That is, how powerful a character is in Super Saiyan 2 is not directly proportional to how powerful another character is in Super Saiyan 2.


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It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2

Form of Super Saiyan is not a distinct plateau of strength. That is, how powerful a character is in Super Saiyan 2 is not directly proportional to how powerful another character is in Super Saiyan 2.

I know this, but Goku was stronger than Vegeta in the Majin Buu saga by a lot.  It's not stated whether Vegeta keeps his power up from the Majin spell or not.  Even if he does it's not feasible for him to surpass a whole other transformation in 2 years when Goku and him are both training their asses off.  In 7 years they couldn't get as strong as Super Perfect Cell as regular SS's.
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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.

Vegeta was able to fight bills because he got pissed as hell. Remember when kid gohan got pissed and was able to punch freeza into the ground?

And it wasn't so much just the energy, it was the fact that apparently having exactly 5 saiyans give energy turned him into a God, allowing him to actually hurt bills in the first place.

Gohan was only able to because he was a half saiyan with great potential.  That was a major plot point in the story.  He did it to Raditz, Frieza's hench men, Frieza himself, then Cell.  Vegeta has never showed great untapped potential unlocked by anger.

5 extremely weak SS's turning one into a god is just a weak point pulled out of no where. 


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.

First off, Garlic Jr. isn't canon. Secondly, Goku wasn't defeated by Cell like he was with Bills.

He's the most original because he mirror's Goku. He's not a bad guy, he just happens to be the God of destruction.

He didn't lose to Kid Buu. Otherwise Kid Buu would still be alive. We're not talking technicalities, we're talking factual outcomes. And factually, Goku won.

Like I said, Toriyama made Vegeta stronger than Goku in SSj2 form because he wanted to emphasize the shift from focus on transformations. Just like in the Cell saga, Goku and Gohan were far stronger in their mastered forms of Ssj1 than they were when they first attained it.

I'm pretty sure that Gohan can still turn super saiyan. But that might be left up to interpretation.

You didn't say strictly in canon. 

Goku still lost.  He also lost to Vegeta in the saiyan saga.

By himself, Goku would have died against kid buu.  If no one gave energy and Vegeta and Buu didn't distract Buu, he would have died.  It was a team fight.

It could have been better explained.  Gohan was a lot stronger than Goku at the end of the Buu saga.  Super Saiyan in his Post Kai unlock form would have rivaled SS Vegito.  For Vegeta to surpass Goku who's a form ahead of him would mean he discovered how to make exponential gains.


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I'll probably watch is some other time.

It's fantastic, dude. The best movie for DBZ.

Idk, fusion reborn was probably my favorite.

That was so predictable though. And filled with a bunch of shit that wasn't needed. Given, there's a bit of filler in this movie, but it's been 10 years. I think fan service is justified.

This movie was predicable too and shit on the existing canon.  Plus the animation was superb.

I disagree. Bills character makes him the most original antagonist in DBZ. The fact that Goku didn't win was surprising for me, as he always wins. But Toriyama tried something different this time, which I liked. He seems to be really into it again.

It didn't really shit over existing canon as it shifted the focus from transformations. Ssj 3 is just ridiculous, you have to admit.


How is Bills the most original?  He's just a god with anger problems.  Literally every fight was everyone throw attacks and Bills 1 hit KOing them.

Goku didn't win against Garlic Jr in the Dead Zone or against Cell.  He technically lost to majin buu and without the help of everyone else the spirit bomb would have failed.

It shit on canon because it has Vegeta the strongest as a mere super saiyan 2, followed by Goku, followed by Gotenks, followed by Gohan who can now go SS in his Ultimate form.  That's completely backwards.  Bills is ridiculous as I remember the whole reason the fight started was Majin Buu took his cup cakes, though Toriyami has always been ridiculous so I personally don't count either as a negative.

The energy of 7 super saiyans would be no where near enough to fight majin buu let alone someone who can poke the strongest characters and KO them.

Vegeta was able to fight bills because he got pissed as hell. Remember when kid gohan got pissed and was able to punch freeza into the ground?

And it wasn't so much just the energy, it was the fact that apparently having exactly 5 saiyans give energy turned him into a God, allowing him to actually hurt bills in the first place.

Gohan was only able to because he was a half saiyan with great potential.  That was a major plot point in the story.  He did it to Raditz, Frieza's hench men, Frieza himself, then Cell.  Vegeta has never showed great untapped potential unlocked by anger.

5 extremely weak SS's turning one into a god is just a weak point pulled out of no where.

Oh, I thought it was just a general thing that if you truly manage to piss off a saiyain like that, they get a huge power boost.

And I don't think it was so much the power level of the other saiyan's, but more about it being a kind of ritual.


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I didn't really like it. Maybe because it was in Japanese, I need to buy the english dub asap. WEll that's if it exists.

The english dub was just released this week...

Joke's on you, I saw it in English last month on YouTube!


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It's not stated whether Vegeta keeps his power up from the Majin spell or not.

It's heavily implied he did, since he kept his ability to go SS2.