In January 2016, a federal judge dismissed an attempt by preservation groups and a chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans to keep them.
I don't have any particular problem with this except for: QuoteIn January 2016, a federal judge dismissed an attempt by preservation groups and a chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans to keep them. Oh come the fuck on, what the Hell is the federal government gonna do with the statue? Let's cut the shit here, it'll rot in some crate in the middle of nowhere till the end of time. Why can't the Sons of Confederate Veterans keep it? Yeah, their ancestors fought for shitty ideals but they're still technically family. They're probably already displaying Confederate shit all over their property, what's the harm an extra statue will do in their yard on some farm?
Though you'd know that if you clicked the link and actually read the story your quote is describing.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria. This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 11, 2017, 01:04:20 PMLet's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria. This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on May 11, 2017, 03:32:01 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 11, 2017, 01:04:20 PMLet's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria. This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.The CSA was semi-recognized by at least two nations for arms contracts and such, and while we never recognized the secessionists as legitimate, they surely thought of themselves as such.
“The city is in the process of determining a more appropriate place to display the statues post-removal, such as a museum or other site, where they can be placed in their proper historical context from a dark period of American history,”
As a US history buff
Quote from: Deci on May 12, 2017, 10:02:37 AMAs a US history buff
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 11, 2017, 03:37:14 PMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on May 11, 2017, 03:32:01 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 11, 2017, 01:04:20 PMLet's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria. This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.The CSA was semi-recognized by at least two nations for arms contracts and such, and while we never recognized the secessionists as legitimate, they surely thought of themselves as such.so they're about as legitimate of a state as kosovo
I am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on May 12, 2017, 12:54:07 PMI am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes okay but like...Here's this randomly placed statue of Jefferson Davis in the middle of New Orleans.What am I supposed to learn from this?It lacks context.
So you're telling meThat there is a liberal agendaAttempting to hide the past from our kidsSo they can brainwash themAnd make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 12, 2017, 03:15:52 PMSo you're telling meThat there is a liberal agendaAttempting to hide the past from our kidsSo they can brainwash themAnd make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university systemLiberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM
Historical Statues Being Removed In New Orleans
