Historical Statues Being Removed In New Orleans

 
Ender
| Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: EnderWolf1013
PSN:
Steam: EnderWolf1013
ID: EnderWolf1013
IP: Logged

10,364 posts
 


Ian | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL: Gaara00444
PSN: TheFriskyIan
Steam: Gaara00444
ID: Gaara444
IP: Logged

6,984 posts
"When nine and nine meet nine, the depths of reason shall stir. When the seal of creation is broken, a voice like thunder shall sound, and thou shalt know—We have arrived."
I don't have any particular problem with this except for:

Quote
In January 2016, a federal judge dismissed an attempt by preservation groups and a chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans to keep them.

Oh come the fuck on, what the Hell is the federal government gonna do with the statue? Let's cut the shit here, it'll rot in some crate in the middle of nowhere till the end of time. Why can't the Sons of Confederate Veterans keep it? Yeah, their ancestors fought for shitty ideals but they're still technically family. They're probably already displaying Confederate shit all over their property, what's the harm an extra statue will do in their yard on some farm?


 
Alternative Facts
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: IcyWind
IP: Logged

9,378 posts
 
I don't have any particular problem with this except for:

Quote
In January 2016, a federal judge dismissed an attempt by preservation groups and a chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans to keep them.

Oh come the fuck on, what the Hell is the federal government gonna do with the statue? Let's cut the shit here, it'll rot in some crate in the middle of nowhere till the end of time. Why can't the Sons of Confederate Veterans keep it? Yeah, their ancestors fought for shitty ideals but they're still technically family. They're probably already displaying Confederate shit all over their property, what's the harm an extra statue will do in their yard on some farm?

I believe that quote is a poorly worded way of saying "the judge dismissed an attempt to keep them where they are". Not that the group requested to take ownership of the statue and was denied.

Though you'd know that if you clicked the link and actually read the story your quote is describing. 
Last Edit: May 11, 2017, 11:26:52 AM by Alternative Facts


Ian | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL: Gaara00444
PSN: TheFriskyIan
Steam: Gaara00444
ID: Gaara444
IP: Logged

6,984 posts
"When nine and nine meet nine, the depths of reason shall stir. When the seal of creation is broken, a voice like thunder shall sound, and thou shalt know—We have arrived."
It's still poorly worded.

Though you'd know that if you clicked the link and actually read the story your quote is describing.


Azumarill | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Azumarill
IP: Logged

7,277 posts
 
this is actually a good thing


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.


 
Flee
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Flee
IP: Logged

13,588 posts
 
Seems reasonable at first sight.


Assassin 11D7 | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Assassin 11D7
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Assassin 11D7
IP: Logged

9,435 posts
"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.


Maverick | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Maverick
IP: Logged

3,159 posts
 
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.
He was part of the rebel alliance, and a traitor. Take him away!


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.
The CSA was semi-recognized by at least two nations for arms contracts and such, and while we never recognized the secessionists as legitimate,  they surely thought of themselves as such.


 
challengerX
| meme or die
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: challengerX
IP: Logged

36,384 posts
I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Well well drumpf you show your true colors after all you kike puppet

#NotMyPresident


Assassin 11D7 | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: Assassin 11D7
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Assassin 11D7
IP: Logged

9,435 posts
"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.
The CSA was semi-recognized by at least two nations for arms contracts and such, and while we never recognized the secessionists as legitimate,  they surely thought of themselves as such.
so they're about as legitimate of a state as kosovo


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

12,259 posts
 
I feel this should be posted
Quote
“The city is in the process of determining a more appropriate place to display the statues post-removal, such as a museum or other site, where they can be placed in their proper historical context from a dark period of American history,”

Feel as if that should be highlighted, but ya know, need that controversy to drive ratings and clicks.


x Foman123 x | Respected Posting Spree
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: x Foman123 x
IP: Logged

232 posts
 
They're probably gonna put up a statue of Muhammad fucking a child to replace this one


 
challengerX
| meme or die
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: challengerX
IP: Logged

36,384 posts
I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
It'll probably just go in a museum where it belongs. You sensitive bitches act like if the confederacy won it'd respect union supporters and historical figures.


Deci | Mythic Unfrigginbelievable!
 
more |
XBL: Captain Deci
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Decimator Omega
IP: Logged

20,915 posts
 
As a US history buff I can understand why the preservation people would be upset at having this removed, but since the person of the statue was a racist piece of shit to start with... I can't say I care.
Last Edit: May 12, 2017, 10:06:13 AM by Deci


 
Verbatim
| Advocatus Diaboli
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

39,632 posts


Deci | Mythic Unfrigginbelievable!
 
more |
XBL: Captain Deci
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Decimator Omega
IP: Logged

20,915 posts
 


 
Verbatim
| Advocatus Diaboli
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

39,632 posts
As a HIGHLY respected historian in my academic circle (I don't want to brag, but my history professor has given me two perfect grades this semester), I thought I'd have the magnanimity to opine on this issue, but it seems my esteemed colleagues here have already done so for me. Boy, am I sure glad to be surrounded by such scholarly fellows who can match my historical acumen. :)
Last Edit: May 12, 2017, 11:36:56 AM by Verbatim


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Let's be real, guys. People who considered themselves leaders of a foreign government and army have little business being memorialized on public grounds outside of approproate displays of civil war memerobilia or militaria.
This is only consistent with the removal of the battle flag from state government buildings.
It's not a foreign figure, it's a historical figure from the region. If it was of some president from Peru that would be one thing, but this is clearly different.
The CSA was semi-recognized by at least two nations for arms contracts and such, and while we never recognized the secessionists as legitimate,  they surely thought of themselves as such.
so they're about as legitimate of a state as kosovo
About as legitimate as Bosnia and Herzegovina's claim to autonomy from greater Serbia, yes.


MyNameIsCharlie | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: MyNameIsCharlie
IP: Logged

6,578 posts
Get of my lawn
I am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes 


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes
okay but like...
Here's this randomly placed statue of Jefferson Davis in the middle of New Orleans.

What am I supposed to learn from this?

It lacks context.


Azumarill | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Azumarill
IP: Logged

7,277 posts
 
removing a statue doesnt rewrite history lmfao. museums, battle sites, piles upon piles upon piles of books still exist.


Yang | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Avatar Korra
IP: Logged

18,532 posts
I always like to start my semesters off with a...Yang!
BUT MUH CULTURE


MyNameIsCharlie | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: MyNameIsCharlie
IP: Logged

6,578 posts
Get of my lawn
I am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes
okay but like...
Here's this randomly placed statue of Jefferson Davis in the middle of New Orleans.

What am I supposed to learn from this?

It lacks context.

It's existence begs the questions of who he was, what he did and what he stood for. It's removal means no one will ask those questions at that spot. This continues and the only place one could learn is in a classroom from textbooks that are written by those in power.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system


 
challengerX
| meme or die
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: challengerX
IP: Logged

36,384 posts
I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM


MyNameIsCharlie | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: MyNameIsCharlie
IP: Logged

6,578 posts
Get of my lawn
So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system

Liberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.


 
DAS B00T x2
| Cultural Appropriator
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: DAS B00T x2
IP: Logged

34,903 posts
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system

Liberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.
Jews?


Ian | Mythic Invincible!
 
more |
XBL: Gaara00444
PSN: TheFriskyIan
Steam: Gaara00444
ID: Gaara444
IP: Logged

6,984 posts
"When nine and nine meet nine, the depths of reason shall stir. When the seal of creation is broken, a voice like thunder shall sound, and thou shalt know—We have arrived."
Okay Captain Picard.

IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM