Historical Statues Being Removed In New Orleans

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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I am really opposed to this removal. We have some good history and bad. Removing all the monuments to the bad essentially is rewriting history. Our cultural narrative is dependent on learning from our mistakes. By doing this we're creating a history that is Disneyesque. It's not real. History isn't a fight between good and evil. It's people living in the social framework of their time. Our modern morality shouldn't play a role in what happened then. At least in so far as the monuments of that history. This isn't having a battle flag as a state symbol. This is having a place that we learn from our mistakes
okay but like...
Here's this randomly placed statue of Jefferson Davis in the middle of New Orleans.

What am I supposed to learn from this?

It lacks context.
Maybe you should read a fucking book and find out


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So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system

Liberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.
Jews?

Again with the jews. I told you, only a few of the slave masters are Jewish. 


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system

Liberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.
Jews?

Again with the jews. I told you, only a few of the slave masters are Jewish.
Zionists?


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So you're telling me
That there is a liberal agenda
Attempting to hide the past from our kids
So they can brainwash them
And make them in to mindless blm drones with their liberal brainwashing university system

Liberal? Not really. It's more complicated than that.
Jews?

Again with the jews. I told you, only a few of the slave masters are Jewish.
Zionists?

While the Rothschilds were indeed Zionists, not all zionists are in tat particular cabal. The creation of israel was more or less them flexing their political strength. Until the Axis united the world against it, the cabal had to gain control individually. After the war the nation states were able to be taken en masse.

Who's in it? Royals and the super rich.


 
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It's removal means no one will ask those questions at that spot. This continues and the only place one could learn is in a classroom from textbooks that are written by those in power.
A museum provides the context and historical accuracy. Not some shitty monument of some random ass dude who wanted to keep slavery around in a place where there are a large portion of blacks. Maybe if there is some plaque offering context to who he was, or what the statue is dedicated for, but if the guy is just chilling there, no thanks.

And those in power always write the history, that's just how it is. But the Civil War has enough voices on both sides where every 5 years it changes from "The war on State Rights" to "The war on Slavery".

And occasionally "The war of Northern Aggression".

It's not like they are censoring shit about it or going full on Germany where its illegal to even have the flag around.
Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 01:32:04 AM by Luciana


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It's removal means no one will ask those questions at that spot. This continues and the only place one could learn is in a classroom from textbooks that are written by those in power.
A museum provides the context and historical accuracy. Not some shitty monument of some random ass dude who wanted to keep slavery around in a place where there are a large portion of blacks. Maybe if there is some plaque offering context to who he was, or what the statue is dedicated for, but if the guy is just chilling there, no thanks.

And those in power always write the history, that's just how it is. But the Civil War has enough voices on both sides where every 5 years it changes from "The war on State Rights" to "The war on Slavery".

And occasionally "The war of Northern Aggression".

It's not like they are censoring shit about it or going full on Germany where its illegal to even have the flag around.
On this I am a fundamentalist. History is sacrosanct. How else do we learn from it? I don't trust people in power. I don't care if they're aligned with my current political views or not. No one should edit our story.

What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did. That's thought control by limiting information. At its core it limits free will.


 
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How else do we learn from it?
Well given we have virtually the entire collective knowledge of humans at the click of a mouse, I'd say the internet if you do proper research.

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What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did.
I don't think so. You really think Americans who are so touchy about the federal government and "muh free speech", would let the government even try what Germany did? No, they'd easily freak the heck out. It's not like Germany with their censorship of Nazism, nor like China where they're censoring everything left and right. You mentioned you don't trust people in power, which is a very American thing as well. That alone encompass how most people feel. I wouldn't worry about it yet, nor do I think removing statue's of people on public area's who lead a rebel nation, is any form of censorship. Put it where it belongs, give it the respect it deserves, and give it the actual info it needs.

The fact we still have government buildings hoisting this kinda stuff, along with the confederate flag, is more than just "my history". In fact for the latter half, much of it was raised into government areas when Civil Rights was catching fire.
Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 04:19:29 AM by Luciana


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How else do we learn from it?
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What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did.
I don't think so. You really think Americans who are so touchy about the federal government and "muh free speech", would let the government even try what Germany did? No, they'd easily freak the heck out. It's not like Germany with their censorship of Nazism, nor like China where they're censoring everything left and right. You mentioned you don't trust people in power, which is a very American thing as well. That alone encompass how most people feel. I wouldn't worry about it yet, nor do I think removing statue's of people on public area's who lead a rebel nation, is any form of censorship. Put it where it belongs, give it the respect it deserves, and give it the actual info it needs.

The fact we still have government buildings hoisting this kinda stuff, along with the confederate flag, is more than just "my history". In fact for the latter half, much of it was raised into government areas when Civil Rights was catching fire.

Which is part and parcel in the history of those statutes. History creates its own context.


 
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How else do we learn from it?
Well given we have virtually the entire collective knowledge of humans at the click of a mouse, I'd say the internet if you do proper research.

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What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did.
I don't think so. You really think Americans who are so touchy about the federal government and "muh free speech", would let the government even try what Germany did? No, they'd easily freak the heck out. It's not like Germany with their censorship of Nazism, nor like China where they're censoring everything left and right. You mentioned you don't trust people in power, which is a very American thing as well. That alone encompass how most people feel. I wouldn't worry about it yet, nor do I think removing statue's of people on public area's who lead a rebel nation, is any form of censorship. Put it where it belongs, give it the respect it deserves, and give it the actual info it needs.

The fact we still have government buildings hoisting this kinda stuff, along with the confederate flag, is more than just "my history". In fact for the latter half, much of it was raised into government areas when Civil Rights was catching fire.

Which is part and parcel in the history of those statutes. History creates its own context.
ok sadiq khan


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What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did.
I don't think so. You really think Americans who are so touchy about the federal government and "muh free speech", would let the government even try what Germany did? No, they'd easily freak the heck out. It's not like Germany with their censorship of Nazism, nor like China where they're censoring everything left and right. You mentioned you don't trust people in power, which is a very American thing as well. That alone encompass how most people feel. I wouldn't worry about it yet, nor do I think removing statue's of people on public area's who lead a rebel nation, is any form of censorship. Put it where it belongs, give it the respect it deserves, and give it the actual info it needs.

The fact we still have government buildings hoisting this kinda stuff, along with the confederate flag, is more than just "my history". In fact for the latter half, much of it was raised into government areas when Civil Rights was catching fire.

Which is part and parcel in the history of those statutes. History creates its own context.
ok sadiq khan

Hey, if you think history should be easily rewritten, that's your prerogative.  You're British judging by the reference. London is a city with a rich history, both good and bad. If you think it should be collected and put in a museum where a government can control the context in which it's shown, then that's your downfall.


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Well if they don't remove historical artifacts and artwork, how will we continue the fabrication that the Civil War was fought by Righteous Northerners to stop those mean southerners from owning slaves?


 
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What's happening here could easily lead to what germany did.
I don't think so. You really think Americans who are so touchy about the federal government and "muh free speech", would let the government even try what Germany did? No, they'd easily freak the heck out. It's not like Germany with their censorship of Nazism, nor like China where they're censoring everything left and right. You mentioned you don't trust people in power, which is a very American thing as well. That alone encompass how most people feel. I wouldn't worry about it yet, nor do I think removing statue's of people on public area's who lead a rebel nation, is any form of censorship. Put it where it belongs, give it the respect it deserves, and give it the actual info it needs.

The fact we still have government buildings hoisting this kinda stuff, along with the confederate flag, is more than just "my history". In fact for the latter half, much of it was raised into government areas when Civil Rights was catching fire.

Which is part and parcel in the history of those statutes. History creates its own context.
ok sadiq khan

Hey, if you think history should be easily rewritten, that's your prerogative.  You're British judging by the reference. London is a city with a rich history, both good and bad. If you think it should be collected and put in a museum where a government can control the context in which it's shown, then that's your downfall.
Stop drinking alcohol Charlie because this is like the 10th time I have to tell you I'm American.


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.

the second civil war is coming and it shall overshadow the first
I dunno about this map, bro. In all honesty PA today would be on the side of the confederacy. 
We have more rebel flags per capita than Georgia and Tennessee combined.


 
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That and idk if Virginia would go to the Confed now a days anymore


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west virginia should


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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump


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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong


 
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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
Of course the commie lover would think that lmao


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao


 
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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The statue is city property. Forcing them to do something with it other than what they decided to do with it violates the NAP.


 
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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao

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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao

You irl
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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao

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I don't know if it's been mentioned or not yet, because I'm too lazy to check, but yeah the mayor is storing the statues in a trash dump
this is where they belong
just like blacks belong hanging from a tree, am i right? lmao

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funny coming from the guy who kept switching his avatar to black people being lynched repeatedly because you thought it was funny