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The Flood / Re: Look at this fucking dork
« on: Today at 06:17:19 PM »
YouTube

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:43:57 AM »
Sorry, deleting white posts in bed so it takes a bit
Ah, I see, those bots are really annoying.

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:37:13 AM »
I like how when you log out and view this thread, you see that it has 3 pages instead of 2, where 3rd page is the copy of 1st and before there was 2 actual pages, 2nd was an empty placeholder
is this a mobile meme, because i have no idea what you're talking about
I do, it bugged me for a minute and then I realized it’s because a page shows less signed out if you changed your post per page ratio in settings.

Unless it’s the same in which case there’s something really strange going on here.
It's the same and I took a screenshot before this thread had 2 pages, it looked like this
Note: I'm browsing from PC

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:31:17 AM »
I like how when you log out and view this thread, you see that it has 3 pages instead of 2, where 3rd page is the copy of 1st and before there was 2 actual pages, 2nd was an empty placeholder

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:25:57 AM »
If I can wait 2 years for Cross Code, I can wait for this
Yeah, and I need to grind for better hardware in order to grind one grindy game, which is based around grind. Fun times.

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:13:21 AM »
Group slowed down, didnt contribute much

Dunno how long I'm here
N1rv ann-a

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The Flood / Re: Meme thread
« on: October 19, 2018, 12:59:47 AM »

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The Flood / Re: how do i undo going to college
« on: October 19, 2018, 12:56:11 AM »
i don't necessarily believe in the concept of "worthless degrees" because having a degree at all actually did get my father a job he never would've gotten without it, once he actually got it (and he was in his 40s)
Whether degree worthless or not depends on where you live and in what field you having that degree. For example, in a country where you can bribe for a degree or in a field where actual skill is more valued than a piece of paper, degree is nothing but worthless. But it might worth something if you are somewhere else or apply for a job loosely connected to the field you have degree for.
but it's things like this + having just the right number of intelligent and successful people give me just the right amount of encouragement, telling me personally that i should study whatever the fuck i want + me wanting an unrelenting desire to give a middle finger to the system that has resulted in me continuing to pursue this stupid english degree that has resulted in my current position where sometimes i'm overwhelmed by the sheer absurdity of it all, where i don't know whether to laugh or cry
You'll get there.

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The Flood / Re: Wow I can't believe Winona Ryder said this
« on: October 15, 2018, 03:19:27 PM »
Why is Cheat even paying to keep this site up anymore?
Social experiment

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The Flood / Re: Wallpaper Thread
« on: October 15, 2018, 03:17:16 PM »
Desktop:
Lock screen
Wallpaper
Google
Original was deleted, but it was drawn by Meola


Phone:
Lock screen
It's from game called Demon King Chronicle

Wallpaper
Can't find source for this one, because it was posted on twitter, but it was drawn by Denki

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The Flood / Re: what is the worst thing you've done in the past 168 hours
« on: October 13, 2018, 04:59:08 AM »
Took an easy route and
YouTube

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The Flood / Re: i have never been an asshole for an unrighteous reason
« on: September 08, 2018, 10:41:41 AM »
Saying that would be unrighteous thing to do for me

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 07, 2018, 03:24:57 PM »
Why would I pay $50 for anything when there are always some free-to-play game or games in $5-10 range that can do better?
i can't think of any
Name a genre
fighting
I am not really invested in fighting games, so can't tell much about them. Rising Thunder was released in 18 January 2018, it's free to play fighting game. I know that there are still people which play Guilty Gear Accent Core+ R, and game costs under $10 here (then again I live in Ukraine, most of games are cheaper here so I don't know how much it costs where you live) and often gets huge discounts.

Then again I'm talking about PC games, I don't know if console players have so much games to choose from, now when I think about it.

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 07, 2018, 02:50:57 PM »
Why would I pay $50 for anything when there are always some free-to-play game or games in $5-10 range that can do better?
i can't think of any
Name a genre

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 07, 2018, 02:37:47 PM »
Why do you buy and support unfinished products?
Because they are already good in the current state. If developer listens to players feedback, it can become even better.
any less than absolute perfection at $60 is a bad deal

by paying more, you're only making the deal worse for yourself
But I don't pay more, I just pay once and receieve stuff as it gets developed. You asked about unfinished products, you didn't ask about this:
Spoiler

you shouldn't have to spend more than $50 when the average game isn't worth $1
Why would I pay $50 for anything when there are always some free-to-play game or games in $5-10 range that can do better?

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 07, 2018, 01:56:00 PM »
Octopath Traveler
Is it really that good? What new it brings in terms of JRPG?

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 07, 2018, 01:54:16 PM »
Why do you buy and support unfinished products?
Because they are already good in the current state. If developer listens to players feedback, it can become even better.

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Gaming / Re: post good games made this decade that have no DLC
« on: September 04, 2018, 01:35:57 PM »
Are we talking about first or third person view games with AAA-ish graphics and stuff, or some forgotten japanese RPG indies with 2D graphics as well?

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The Flood / Re: "i don't think it matters"
« on: August 17, 2018, 11:00:21 AM »
1. <what do you think "matters">
Well, since in core of human life lies suffering (you inevitably die and all people you might like dies too, value of things is tied to how easy those things are lost and how hard them to obtain etc.), I guess only thing that matters to me is to reduce suffering for myself and others. And, of course, thats hard and I need to grow stronger or at least I need to not make things worse. Ultimately everything I do matters, for everything I do (or not do) I take responsibility.

2. <of those things that matter, how much time do you spend on them>
I can't say for sure. I can say that I spend 6 hours or so on programming and half hour on a physical exercise per day, while rest of the time goes on keeping myself in a working condition or improving on other aspects (or both). I try to narrow most of my potential into programming, but not all of it, since I need a room for adapting to different conditions and also to write a good program I need some knowledge of sphere where it's meant to be used.

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The Flood / Re: "i don't think it matters"
« on: August 17, 2018, 03:30:48 AM »
Eating meat.
Making babies.
Invading people in Dark Souls.
Convincing people to do all of the above.
running games on emulators and making an emulator for games where it’s not already an option
modding games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R or The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
How about playing only as Bayonetta in Smash Bros and picking female characters in other fighting games based exclusively on how skimpy their clothes are? That's another big one for me.
True, I take out my dick everytime and I do that not because I'm turned on, but because I pro gamer which doesn't need two hands to play and I'm practising multitasking this way

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The Flood / Re: "i don't think it matters"
« on: August 17, 2018, 02:09:09 AM »
Eating meat.
Making babies.
Invading people in Dark Souls.
Convincing people to do all of the above.
running games on emulators and making an emulator for games where it’s not already an option
modding games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R or The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim

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The Flood / Re: wtf I just saw DAS's name on a YouTube video
« on: August 14, 2018, 07:32:47 AM »
Yeah, Captain Fox

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The Flood / Re: So I'm 23 y/o now
« on: August 09, 2018, 08:06:09 AM »
Congrats!

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The Flood / Re: Ideas for fun things to collect?
« on: August 03, 2018, 04:37:46 PM »
NES games

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Gaming / Re: Halo Mega Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 05:37:12 PM »
It's literally the worst definition of harassment.

It's a perfectly good definition. Canada has been using it for years in courts of law.
OK, so let's find definition of harassment in Canada. "Harassment is a form of discrimination. It involves any unwanted physical or verbal behaviour that offends or humiliates you. Generally, harassment is a behaviour that persists over time. Serious one-time incidents can also sometimes be considered harassment." So, Jono's offenses doesn't persist over time, if what he told us is true. Ok, so lets talk about wherever it is serious incident or not and of course we gonna stumble here, because what is treated as serious?

Ok, so let's take a context. Jono tried to poke person's nickname, not the person behind it and even if with reason to annoy or offend, this is an offense, not a harassment.

If we take what Jono said as true, Jono only stated that "God is not a woman" and he did it only once. It's him voicing his perception of God, be it for joke or not, be it truth or not. There is nothing harassing about it.

He went out of his way to message the person after the fact. I'd say that's the second attempt.
Ok then, where the first one? I'm not defending Jono, I'm saying only if all provided from Jono is true and there was no other messages except this one, then it's not a harassment.

Third, if you are already picking your nickname as someone's musician name, you are automatically give people reason to react in positive or negative way.

This is what we call "victim blaming." Don't do it.
Fair enough.

Second, what Jono wrote has a useful purpose, since Jono at the very least acknowledged musician that opponent has as the name, as well as the song.


Acknowledging an artist is not a useful purpose (or a regular purpose, I don't think you know what the word means), it's the method he chose to annoy the person. The purpose was to annoy, and he did that by acknowedging the artist.


1. "God is not a woman" is also aknowledging song, so it wasn't only intended to annoy.

You can acknowledge a song with an intention to annoy. They're not mutually exclusive, and even then, the primary purpose was still to annoy the player.
No, primary intention was to make fun of the nickname. I don't think such issues can be judged on intention, it must be judged on action, because I don't think whoever was handling a ban can look into people's mind and say what their intention was. Intentions doesn't mean that much, because even with good intentions anyone can do something bad (as for example, create atomic bomb), so intention doesn't have that much weight as action.

Action itself was Jono sending person message "God isn't a woman". Context suggests that it was directed on person's nickname rather than on person itself. Even if it was with intent to annoy and even if message would clearly offended person instead, it's still not a harassment, because it's not a continuos behaviour and I don't think it's serious either. There is no definition in CHRC of "serious" and only thing I can do is to provide my opinion.

2. Well, plot twist: because it's not a harassment.. And it's not my definition, it's USA law.

Yeah, because American law is supremely just and absolutely flawless.

Canada is just America, but better in everyway, and this is no exception.

Also you're not American so I don't know why you resort to that definition.
It's because Bungie resides in USA, and Bungie doesn't provide definition of harassment, so I use USA definition. Both laws are flawed, but USA provides clear definition of harassment whether Canada doesn't. I also think that elaborating on laws in gaming thread is bad, we can just create another thread somewhere else and have a discussion about them.

And that's why your definition of harassment is literally the worst, because anything under it can be interpreted as a harassment,

...what? How does "something that is REASONABLY ought to be known" = "anything could be harassment."

It's reasonable that Jono would know his message was going to illicit some kind of response (it was literally his intention), therefore it is harassment. This is where a thing called rule of law and context come into play.
"Harassment is a form of discrimination. It involves any unwanted physical or verbal behaviour that offends or humiliates you. Generally, harassment is a behaviour that persists over time. Serious one-time incidents can also sometimes be considered harassment." What is treated as "serious one-time incident"? Is Jono's case a "serious one-time incident"? Without definition of what is "serious", everyone will judge what is "serious" based on their values and the context of the situation, but the problem is that it's dependent on a person, and people are biased.

because even my response can be taken as a provocation, an attempt to gain a moral ground over you and by your definition you can ban people just because they say something unwanted to you, which is ridiculous.

It could be taken as provocation, sure, but it is clearly not unwanted because I keep responding to you and consenting to the argument. You can only be banned for saying unwanted things to people that they obviously do not want to hear. Randomly saying something I disagree with isn't going to get you banned. Going out of your way to say something I do not want to hear when you know I don't want to hear it is harassment, and should get you banned.
Well, my problem is that your definition is not precise and allows different interpretations. For example, "unwanted things to people that they obviously do not want to hear" not only refers to offensive behaviour, it refers for example to doctor saying to people that close to them person died. I cannot perceieve whether you treat my response as unwanted or not either, because I can't look into your brain and read your thoughts, so best course of action to me then is to stop talking to you and never talk to you again to not be banned.

Also if you gonna really hold to this definition, since I don't like to act disrespectful, I neither message you nor quote you at all, because I don't want to offend harass you in any way possible. Otherwise I think it will be great opportunity to test and reinform our views on this topic, although I think it's better to have another thread for this.

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Gaming / Re: Halo Mega Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 03:28:34 PM »
then again, it just hit me that you guys are probably just doing this to fuck with jono, because he's fun to fuck with

have at it then i guess, even though that might qualify as harassment in and of itself

it does qualify as harassment imo, but that doesn't necessarily mean it should be punished
Most of people don't qualify this as harassment, it's just qualifies as being offensive or/and annoying. If you meant that, then I agree that Jono might be offensive and annoying, but in no way thats harassment.

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Gaming / Re: Halo Mega Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:46:33 PM »
It's not a harassment.
It is harassment. I already stated the best legal definition of harassment: anything that is known or reasonably ought to be known to be unwanted. Jono's comment fits this bill.
It's literally the worst definition of harassment.

"Harassment, under the laws of the United States, is defined as any repeated or continuing un-consented contact that serves no useful purpose beyond creating alarm, annoyance, or emotional distress."

Even if you subscribe to this definition, Jono's intent was to annoy the other player. So yes, it's harassment.
No, it's not. First of all, Jono did not repeat his message repetetally. Second, what Jono wrote has a useful purpose, since Jono at the very least acknowledged musician that opponent has as the name, as well as the song. Third, if you are already picking your nickname as someone's musician name, you are automatically give people reason to react in positive or negative way.

It's not a harassment.
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If we take what Jono said as true, Jono only stated that "God is not a woman" and he did it only once. It's him voicing his perception of God, be it for joke or not, be it truth or not. There is nothing harassing about it.

1. "God is not a woman" is a comment intended to annoy.
2. Number of harassment attempts has no bearing on whether something is harassment, by your own definition.
1. "God is not a woman" is also aknowledging song, so it wasn't only intended to annoy.
2. Well, plot twist: because it's not a harassment.. And it's not my definition, it's USA law.
Of course, Microsoft or Bungie can define their definition of harassment, after all it's their game, but my point is that no way I would treat that as harassment, because it creates an example, a standart upon which you can ban anyone who literally just references other player name or says that God is not a woman, or not a man, or w/e.

It's not a harassment.
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If you take Jono's statement as a harassment, then you can take your and chally's comedic responses or genuine arguments to Deci as a harassment too as well as this response.

Chally does harass Deci. It's also completely irrelevant to this conversation.

This response is not harassment, because it is reasonably thought to be consented to by your own initiation of the conversation, and its sole intention is not to annoy, create alarm or emotional distress.
And that's why your definition of harassment is literally the worst, because anything under it can be interpreted as a harassment, because even my response can be taken as a provocation, an attempt to gain a moral ground over you and by your definition you can ban people just because they say something unwanted to you, which is ridiculous.

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The Flood / Re: Hoi
« on: August 02, 2018, 11:39:53 AM »
welcome back
Thanks Verby. Good to see you :) how have you been?
pretty okay, all things considered

still writing, still working at my dad's record shop, still going to school at the end of the month, but what's new is that i'm taking my first steps into growing my youtube channel—very soon, i'm gonna start posting game reviews and writing video essays and stuff (because there's totally not enough video essayists on youtube right now), because at some point i need to find a way to make some kind of career out of the few things i enjoy doing, and with my writing and video editing skills, i think i should be getting a move on in that department

so hopefully that'll be cool
I'll be there for you to argue on every single thing I disagree with in a comment section.

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Gaming / Re: Halo Mega Thread
« on: August 02, 2018, 11:30:46 AM »
It's him voicing his perception of God, be it for joke or not, be it truth or not. There is nothing harassing about it.
It wasn't that. It's a Grande song lol.
YouTube

I know that, but in it's base it is still perseption of God as a woman in a song and disagreement to a song name in a joke. Either way, I wouldn't call that a harassment.

What Halo you tried to play together?

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