https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/us/politics/trump-andrew-jackson-fact-check.html

Trump: ‘I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little later you wouldn’t have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said, “There’s no reason for this.” ’

According to Trump, Andrew Jackson was very upset about the Civil War and believed he would've stopped it if he was president.

The problem with this? Andrew Jackson died in 1845, 16 years before the Civil War broke out.

Now let's just say he wasn't being literal, and that this was just a philosophical "What if" on the subject of General Jackson being in charge when The South decided to secede from The Union. Yes, General Jackson was a hard believer in keeping the Union, in regards to threats of secession over tariffs. However he was also a hard slave owner, he appointed Justice Roger Taney who made the infamous Dred Scott Decision.

Point is, it's impossible to gauge what General Jackson would've done in regards to the Civil War and that's the best case scenario for Trump if he wasn't just getting his historical facts wrong.

TL;DR: Trump doesn't know history and believed president Jackson was still alive during the Civil War.

Uhh....a 2011 Toshiba? It was a Christmas present from my dad actually, before he went fully dictator in the house my senior year.

What the fuck kind of techno wizard space magic did they sell you?

You must be fun at parties.

It's pretty lengthy (a 100 something pages in total), but the entire report is available online on the FBI Vault. Happy reading!

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Look guys, he fell for it.

The answer is obvious.

So, Trump or any of our past leaders saying shit is okay because they had money? I'm still not sure I see the connection here.

I never stated what Trump says is okay, I don't see what Trump has anything to do with this. You brought him up. I don't support the man and most of what rings true about Marx can be also be said about Trump, the difference being Trump was still a successful business man before being elected where Marx never had any success in finance, mostly because of his own failings.

If I understand right, it's a psychological relation. Younger people, particularly millennials, only see the burden of capitalism because of the issues being thrust onto them - trillions in student debt, government financing issues, even the price of gas that was over $4 just a couple of years ago. Naturally, these people would support a different system - socialism - in greater numbers than the generations before them.

They didn't grow up with the constant barrage of "Socialism bad! USSR bad!" that our parents and grandparents did. Instead, they see "socialism" and link it to prosperous countries in Europe, not China and Russia.

The socialism they see in Europe is still mostly a free market society though. If the millennials that are denouncing the free market are living in the socialist countries of Europe, they're probably taking for granted the many things that socialism there does not provide.

The crippling of those countries also had plenty to do with the corrupt nature of their politicians, socialism aside.

You'll get that no matter what kind of government/economic model you follow though.

Compare that with a 1980s Publix where much hasn't changed in the 30 years up to now. Also, it doesn't matter if I NEED only one brand. I don't want to be stuck with the same bowl of government-provided oatmeal for the rest of my life. I want Captain Crunch one week and Cheerios the next, and even in poor conditions I have the freedom to make that choice.

says who

and all you need is one brand anyway

I will not deny the flaws of Captialism Verb, you will achieve a objectively perfect economic system. I can't argue against that, but a free market coupled with government regulations and a limited, controlled amount of socialist programs has produced more well-off citizens than any country that has accepted Marxism and became a Communist Hellhole.

I like going to the grocery store and having the choice of choosing between numerous different brands of cereal, all within a nice price range of $2-$5. You don't get that when the government takes control of everything, you get one option and you can't guarantee it'll even be on the shelf when you arrive.

you mean like what we are now

under capitalism

It's not that I did a bad job, two out of the seven hours I spent on the build was completely dedicated to cable management. The problem is the case came with a bunch of cables for its own fan controller and it had six of those, but I wanted to use my own fan controller and I have six fans in there, and there isn't much clearance on the side.

if you did a bad job, this could be a opportunity to do a good job on cable management this time round

My PSU is fully modular. If I buy a Corsair PSU, can I use the cables already attached to everything and just switch out the power block?

corsair are a child company of seasonic, who make the best psus

evga is actually the newer kid on the block, and theyre the third best, behind corsair and seasonic

dont know what youve heard but overall the top three in order from best is seasonic, corsair, then evga

Daily reminder that people actually voted for this man and still support him to this day.

Hopefully this'll mean 2020 isn't bombarded with shitty contenders. I know the phrase is a meme by now, but honestly even at his failing old age, Bernie might actually have a chance. Still hoping for a McCain uprising though.

picking fights with Canada over milk

This is the most laughable part. Canada isn't trying to bully milk farmers here in the US, they're just trying to protect their own Canuck milk farmers. Besides, we all know if you want to sell milk in Leaf Land, you gotta do it the bizarre way and do it in fucking bags.

Mailed it today, I swear to Christ Nick if this is just an elaborate joke.

Not with that attitude.

Ian, I'm gonna need to tell you to shut the fuck up.

NIGGER

Quote from: Ian on April 30, 2017, 10:56:49 PM

>Told his British captor to go fuck himself when he was little
>Ripped the national bank apart all by himself
>Had Redcoats running with tails between their legs with hundreds of casualties when he was outnumbered 10:1
>Participated in over 100 duels
>Killed a man in one of them after he was already shot and the bullet lodged in his heart, carried that bullet to his grave many years later
>Beat his would-be assassin with a cane until two Senators pulled him back because he was "being too rough"
>Receives 100 pounds of FUCKING CHEESE
>Invites the common man to the white house to help him eat it, gone within hours
>Pet parrot had to be removed from his funeral because it swore too much

i guarantee at least half of these are urban legends at worst, romanticized exaggerations at best

The first one was the most exaggerated, his British captor ordered him to shine his boots. When Jackson refused, the Captor took out his sword and slashed the top of his head as punishment.

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His oldest brother Hugh died of heat stroke following the Battle of Stono Ferry in 1779. In 1781, Jackson and his brother Robert were captured. During their captivity, a British officer slashed Jackson with his sword after he refused to polish the officer’s boots.

>Ripped the national bank apart

Source

In January 1832, Biddle's supporters in Congress, principally Daniel Webster and Henry Clay, introduced Bank recharter legislation. Even though the charter was not due to expire for four more years, they felt that the current Congress would recharter the Bank. They felt that Jackson would not risk losing votes in Pennsylvania and other commercial states by vetoing it. Jackson reacted by saying to his vice-president, Martin Van Buren, "The Bank is trying to kill me, Sir, but I shall kill it!"

Jackson's opposition to the Bank became almost an obsession. Accompanied by strong attacks against the Bank in the press, Jackson vetoed the BANK RECHARTER BILL. Jackson also ordered the federal government's deposits removed from the Bank of the United States and placed in state or "PET" BANKS. The people were with Jackson, and he was overwhelmingly elected to a second term. Biddle retaliated by making it more difficult for businesses and others to get the money they needed. This caused an economic contraction at the end of 1833 and into 1834. The bank charter expired in 1836.

>Had Redcoats running with tails between their legs with hundreds of casualties when he was outnumbered 10:1

Source

After British forces were sighted near Lake Borgne, Jackson declared martial law in New Orleans and ordered that every available weapon and able-bodied man be brought to bear in the city’s defense. His force soon grew into a 4,500-strong patchwork of army regulars, frontier militiamen, free blacks, New Orleans aristocrats and Choctaw tribesmen. After some hesitation, Old Hickory even accepted the help of Jean Lafitte, a dashing pirate who ran a smuggling and privateering empire out of nearby Barataria Bay. Jackson’s ramshackle army was to face off against some 8,000 British regulars, many of whom had served in the Napoleonic Wars. At the helm was Lieutenant General Sir Edward Pakenham, a respected veteran of the Peninsular War and the brother-in-law of the Duke of Wellington.

2:1, HOWEVER look at those casualty numbers:

The assault on Jackson’s fortifications was a fiasco, costing the British some 2,000 casualties including three generals and seven colonels—all of it in the span of only 30 minutes. Amazingly, Jackson’s ragtag outfit had lost less than 100 men.

>Participated in over 100 duels

Source

Before ever becoming president, Jackson fought 103 duels–mostly defending the integrity of his wife. As a result, Jackson is said to have kept 37 pistols ready to be used in a duel at all times.

>Killed a man in one of them after he was already shot and the bullet lodged in his heart, carried that bullet to his grave many years later

Same source as above:

John Overton, a general in the military present at the duel, announced the duel should begin. Squaring himself, Dickinson aimed and fired at Jackson’s heart. Despite smoke and dust billowing from Jackson’s coat and his hand touching his chest, Jackson remained standing, puzzling the accomplished Dickinson. Reportedly, Dickinson asked, “My God! Have I missed him?”

Nevertheless, the decorum of dueling stated that Dickinson was required to remain in place while Jackson aimed to take his shot. Jackson fired, but the flint hammer stopped half-cocked, not counting as a legitimate shot. Jackson aimed again––ever so carefully––and fired a second time. This time, the shot was good and the bullet hit Dickinson in the chest and he dropped to the ground.

>Beat his would-be assassin with a cane until two Senators pulled him back because he was "being too rough"

I'm surprised you don't know of this, the odds of Jackson living through this assassination attempt is what mostly has made him legendary.

Source

On this day in 1835, Andrew Jackson becomes the first American president to experience an assassination attempt.

Richard Lawrence, an unemployed house painter, approached Jackson as he left a congressional funeral held in the House chamber of the Capitol building and shot at him, but his gun misfired. A furious 67-year-old Jackson confronted his attacker, clubbing Lawrence several times with his walking cane. During the scuffle, Lawrence managed to pull out a second loaded pistol and pulled the trigger, but it also misfired. Jackson’s aides then wrestled Lawrence away from the president, leaving Jackson unharmed but angry and, as it turned out, paranoid.

Lawrence was most likely a mentally unstable individual with no connections to Jackson’s political rivals, but Jackson was convinced that Lawrence had been hired by his Whig Party opponents to assassinate him. At the time, Jackson’s Democrats and the Whigs were locked in battle over Jackson’s attempt to dismantle the Bank of the United States. His vice president, Martin Van Buren, was also wary and thereafter carried two loaded pistols with him when visiting the Senate.

Jackson’s suspicions were never proven and Lawrence spent the rest of his life in a mental institution. A century later, Smithsonian Institute researchers conducted a study of Lawrence’s derringers, during which both guns discharged properly on the test’s first try. It was later determined that the odds of both guns misfiring during the assassination attempt were one in 125,000.

>Receives 100 pounds of FUCKING CHEESE

Source

The Cheshire Mammoth Cheese was a gift from the town of Cheshire, Massachusetts to President Thomas Jefferson in 1802. The 1,234-pound (560 kg) cheese was created by combining the milk from every cow in the town, and made in a makeshift cheese press to handle the cheese's size. The cheese bore the Jeffersonian motto "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."[1]

>Invites the common man to the white house to help him eat it, gone within hours

Unfortunately I must yield this one as I can not find a source on the time it took for the cheese to fully disappear. However the aftermath is hilarious. Source.

A postscript to the story is that Jackson left office two weeks later, and the new occupant of the White House, Martin Van Buren, banned the serving of food at White House receptions. Crumbs from Jackson's mammoth cheese had fallen into the carpets and been trampled by the crowd. The mansion smelled of cheese for months.

>Pet parrot had to be removed from his funeral because it swore too much

Source

The obituary went on to report, “While still at school, word reached Cumberland University that General Jackson was dead. Only six weeks before he had shaken his hand. Rev. Norment says he went to the funeral and that the General’s parrot, excited by the multitude and the wailing of the slaves, let loose perfect gusts of ‘cuss words.’ The Negro slaves of the General were horrified and awed at the bird’s lack of reverence.”