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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:13:31 PM »
tfw Asda is the lowest paying supermarket :^[
scrub

i get payed 10 pund/hr to push trollies around

9422
The Flood / Re: Why are raisins so good
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:10:18 PM »
If by eat them you mean push them into your bum then I agree.

9423
The Flood / Re: Why are caramel frappuccinos so good
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:06:24 PM »
McDonald's caramel McCafes?

Mmmm, forget about it.

9424
Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:04:37 PM »
If by "high paying field" you mean literally anything above minimum wage...
Ugh

I hear this time after time from the left and I'm getting pretty sick of listening to it. Every minimum wage job I've seen and applied to requested the minimum standard of secondary education. If all jobs required a college degree like you suggest, half of the labour market would be unemployed. Let's drop the myth, shall we?
Not to mention, things like the police force (at least in this country) don't even require A-levels in order to be eligible for employment.

Shit, I'm 17, haven't finished my A-levels and I get paid more than minimum wage.

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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 04:02:44 PM »
But that's what employers want.
No it isn't.

Employers want employees who will be reliably competent in their field. The fact that you have letters after your name is immaterial, for the most part.
I've literally never applied to a job that wasn't a retail gig when I was 17 that didn't want a college degree.
I'm not denying that.

I'm pointing out that what's important isn't the college degree itself, but the level of competence the degree represents. Which is why it makes much more sense to combat grade/credential inflation and restore trust in the current qualifications we're awarding. You can't have 50pc of school leavers going to university and not have degrees become worth less; all you're doing is kicking the problem down the line.

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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 03:57:44 PM »
But that's what employers want.
No it isn't.

Employers want employees who will be reliably competent in their field. The fact that you have letters after your name is immaterial, for the most part.

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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 03:56:59 PM »
Yes, and my point is that making high school a requirement [whenever it was "they" decided that] isn't much different than making tertiary education a requirement now.
But it isn't.

All you need to do is "upgrade" the standards of the current system of education. There's literally no justification for shoving more and more people into tertiary education, especially considering how it operates and is structured. When 50pc of the population have PhDs, where do you go? You'll find yourself having to invent a completely new qualification to distinguish the best of the best of the 50pc, and having to add a new layer on top of the existing structure.

Which makes nowhere near as much sense as trying to restore confidence in the current system.

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The Flood / Re: Why do clinical psychologists reject science?
« on: December 27, 2014, 03:53:20 PM »
I'm not sure I entirely understand what you're talking.

There is no limit or partition to "science". A plumber who decides to test his hypothesis of why your sink is bust is using the scientific method as far as it matters. Psychologists do this in the same way - it can be difficult to account for variation in behaviour, but it's quite easy to determine where the fringe lies.

It's not that psychology somehow reject science, it's merely that the instruments we use aren't as fine-tuned as those we use for physics.

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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 03:48:04 PM »
How is that any different than requiring people to go to high school?
Because it's not high school.

University was never designed to be a form of mass education, and the problem lies with general distrust in the public education system as opposed to any necessity to own a degree - which only exists within the current paradigm.
 
The first rule of economics is that scarcity proximately effects value, so what do you think happens to the value of a degree if everybody has one? We're already seeing this in a relative lack of value in a BA compared to an MA/MSc.

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Serious / Re: Is education a human right?
« on: December 27, 2014, 03:36:00 PM »
Tertiary however, isn't.
It's getting to the point where it should be, though.
Absolutely not.

You heighten the standards of all the categories if the educational system is suffering from credential inflation. What you don't do is try and push more people through higher education.

9431
The Flood / Re: Thingd I learned today
« on: December 27, 2014, 02:20:54 PM »
No, it's Diagonally.

Like Diagon Alley.

9432
The Flood / Re: >tfw supernatural is going to be broadcast in uk
« on: December 27, 2014, 02:15:33 PM »
Spoiler
They have a another brother trapped in Hell.
Bobby dies.

I don't care for the show, but if that was actually spoilers I'm gonna break your fingers with a mallet <_________<
They were, yes. Although I already knew them.

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The Flood / Re: >tfw supernatural is going to be broadcast in uk
« on: December 27, 2014, 02:15:17 PM »
Spoiler
They have a another brother trapped in Hell.
Bobby dies.
I know all of this.

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The Flood / >tfw supernatural is going to be broadcast in uk
« on: December 27, 2014, 01:54:39 PM »
thank you based e4

9436
The Flood / Re: Mods and Admins
« on: December 27, 2014, 08:28:13 AM »
What the fuck is going on now?

9437
The Flood / Re: Another vine which made me laugh
« on: December 27, 2014, 08:26:49 AM »
dude just like
stick it into the same thread dude


You can't contain me.

9438
The Flood / Another vine which made me laugh
« on: December 27, 2014, 08:19:58 AM »
YouTube


I fucking love watching children scream.

9439
The Flood / Funniest vine I've seen in a while
« on: December 27, 2014, 08:13:31 AM »
YouTube

Made me laugh out loud.

9440
The Flood / Re: If you have a Sangheili as your avatar
« on: December 27, 2014, 07:43:19 AM »
Objectively the best at being excessively gay, sure.

9441
The Flood / Mexican standoff
« on: December 27, 2014, 07:20:17 AM »
YouTube

fucken lel

9442
The Flood / Re: I just got it
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:54:30 AM »
I'm just constantly insulting this guy because he didn't donate anything to that homeless loser"
Hey, neither did I. Nobody's jumping on my dick.

Maybe there's a different motive.


9443
The Flood / Re: I just got it
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:53:26 AM »

9444
Serious / Re: Which side would you defend?
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:51:45 AM »
Plus you can't possibly know what her wishes were just from the fact that she was pregnant for 18 weeks.
I'm not claiming to know, I'm claiming it's safe to assume that four months of development is a decent sign she probably wanted to keep it.
I'd still say pull the plug unless the family REALLY wants it.
I can get down with that.

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Serious / Re: Which side would you defend?
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:50:21 AM »
Plus you can't possibly know what her wishes were just from the fact that she was pregnant for 18 weeks.
I'm not claiming to know, I'm claiming it's safe to assume that four months of development is a decent sign she probably wanted to keep it.

9446
The Flood / When you see it. . .
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:49:14 AM »


You'll shit brix.

Don't worry, it's not a gif:

9447
Serious / Re: Which side would you defend?
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:43:30 AM »
It's cruel to keep the mother's body alive just so it can pop a baby out.
No, it's just fucked up.

Fucking disrespectful.
It can't possibly be cruel if she's braindead.
It's disrespectful. That's literally using her body as an object.
She should be allowed to rest in peace rather than have her living corpse be used as a baby oven.
All of the underlined bits are incredibly misleading uses of emotive language.

At 18 weeks, it's fairly clear she wanted to keep the baby. It was her desire to bring a new life into the world, and that should be respected, don't you think? If losing all cognitive functions makes her an object, then so be it, because we still know what her intentions were prior to this situation. Ending the foetus's life without reason, and against the now braindead mother's wishes, is surely more disrespectful.

In saying that, if the family isn't willing to look after it - or if they can't find somebody willing to do so - then it'd probably be best to kill them both, instead of cycling another baby through the foster care system.

9448
Serious / Re: Free Will vs. Determinism?
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:27:43 AM »
Quantum indeterminance is a thing. The building blocks of reality follow an uncertain, stochastic, probability distribution and cannot be described deterministically. The basis of our memories and reactions to stimuli are electrons (energy) flowing through our nervous system; these are the very same particles that carry an inherent uncertainty. Maybe this uncertainty leads to a Schrodinger's-cat-type situation whenever a decision is needed, and some mechanism allows us to override data and conditions that would otherwise lead to a predetermined outcome.

I dunno. Thats a super interesting line of discussion, to me. Too often these conversations are wrought with free will being relegated to the unscientific or the religious, when the reality is that the idea of a purely deterministic universe is outdated as far as hundred years since the first inklings of errors in quantum mechanics.
If that were true you've still relegated free will to the unscientific, and entered the realm of incompatibilist indeterminism.

You obviously understand it better than I do, but I'm sceptical of how much this fundamental uncertainty can impact our choices. Determinism isn't about fatalism, merely the idea that you can't escape your own conditions, you aren't the proximate author of your own thoughts and that every decision you make is necessarily a part of this deterministic stream.

I doubt inherent probability at the quantum level can nullify any of these.

9449
Serious / Re: Which side would you defend?
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:21:24 AM »
It's cruel to keep the mother's body alive just so it can pop a baby out.
No, it's just fucked up.

Fucking disrespectful.
It can't possibly be cruel if she's braindead.

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Serious / Re: Gender is a biological concept, not a social construct
« on: December 27, 2014, 06:19:23 AM »
This is completely reasonable.

I don't feel like opening Bnet. Was there a shitstorm?
That DieselRose bitch was trying to tell me that gender is psychology and sex is biology therefore gender is not based on biology.

http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/87425605/0/0/1
Despite the fact psychology is reducible to neuroscience?

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