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8641
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:07:35 PM »
> Not partaking in a minutes silence.
Such a fucking crime.
17 people are dead for drawing a cartoon, and yet you can't seem to find anything even vaguely disagreeable in people explicitly dishonouring the memory of those dead. I question your ability to form a coherent value-system.
8642
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:05:22 PM »
You know, this is the same type of argument Conservatives use to bitch out people who won't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance/National Anthem over here.
So? I mean, I don't really give a fuck if somebody doesn't want to stand for that; I don't stand for the National Anthem myself. But I do care when people are dead for exercising a fundamental freedom, and then people use this very same fundamental freedom in order to disparage the memory of those who died. We aren't talking about a country or a head of state, here, we're talking about people dead in the name of the principles that a great nation was essentially founded upon. I'd say the same about anybody who refused to honour the silence on the 11th of November. Nonetheless, I don't really see what your point is. I think you can make the case that freedom of expression is a far more valuable right than the exercise of patriotism (if that can even be called a right), so I don't think the instance your bringing up is morally or practically comparable.
8643
« on: January 12, 2015, 05:53:08 PM »
As disrespectful as it may be, they have the right not to stand up.
Forcing them to pay respects really doesn't make us any better than the terrorists, as ironic as it may be.
I'm not saying they should be forced. I'm saying they're cunts for not respecting the people who died in the name of the very freedom they're exercising. They can refuse to stand, or speak during a minute's silence, all they like--but I won't sit idly by at such flagrant hypocrisy and moral insanity. Fuck them.
8644
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:22:09 PM »
what the fuck does based mean
Badass/awesome, I think. No idea where it comes from, though.
8645
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:14:12 PM »
Did somebody say culture war? A nationwide minute of silence for the victims of the attack on Charlie Hebdo’s Paris offices was not honored by some Muslim students in French schools, a BBC reporter claimed.
Following last Wednesday’s slaughter of 12 people at the satirical newspaper by Islamic terrorists, President Francois Hollande asked the French people to observe a moment of silence the following day.
But while most of the nation responded with an outpouring of grief and solidarity, one subset of the French nation was less-than-reverential.
“I’m already getting reports from people in France that some schools in those strongly Muslim neighborhoods, the kids didn’t stand for the minute’s silence,” BBC reporter Katty Kay said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Monday. “They see those attackers as heroes. How do we change that? Because that’s where the problem for Europe lies.”
Kay said the Muslim-dominated Parisian suburbs must be “detoxified,” explaining that radicalization is spreading rapidly within the French Muslim community.
Muslims worldwide were incensed by Charlie Hebdo’s publication of cartoons mocking their prophet Mohammed, with many calling for revenge attacks like the one finally carried out last week.
8646
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:06:48 PM »
Ah, I think he added that to the spoiler after I'd read it.
8647
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:04:51 PM »
I was wondering this, too.
This is also why communication is important.
8648
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:04:15 PM »
>mr bong thinks he knows something about clint eastwood
What? No, that's his British double actor. Flint Westforest.
8649
« on: January 12, 2015, 04:02:27 PM »
 You better aim for the heart.
8650
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:46:33 PM »
You can say objectively as much as you want it doesn't make it true. Halo 2 was fun but let's cut the crap, most glorify it because of nostalgia not actual good gameplay.
Fuck you, Halo 2 was and is the best Halo game.
8651
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:45:33 PM »
No idea; don't watch it.
8652
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:42:45 PM »
Sucks, bro. It's a pretty terrible thing all around.
Although, recently, a lot of advertisements in the U.K. have been pronouncing that this is the first time in history that at least 50pc of people diagnosed with cancer will live for a further five years. Slow and steady.
8653
« on: January 12, 2015, 03:39:13 PM »
Spoiler This shouldn't be in Serious. I'm sorry to hear that, though. My step-father lost both his parents to cancer.
8654
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:49:42 PM »
I'm not smart enough to debate this
If there is an infinite amount of time prior to us being here, there's no way for us to be here because that infinite amount of time, by definition, couldn't have passed.
8655
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:42:11 PM »
I'd have to give somebody credit if they knew how to pick a lock.
8656
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:40:49 PM »
What if there never was a starting point
It has to acknowledge a start-point, because if not then there would be an infinite amount of time prior to our being here--which would necessitate our not being here.
8657
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:37:10 PM »
The starting point isn't the Big Bang?
Yes, but the Big Crunch proffers an infinite cycle of bangs and crunches. It doesn't recognise a start-point at all to my knowledge.
8658
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:32:02 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
The problem with the Big Crunch idea is that it forms an infinite regression. It has to acknowledge a start-point, because if not then there would be an infinite amount of time prior to our being here--which would necessitate our not being here. It's certainly an interesting hypothesis, though.
8659
« on: January 12, 2015, 02:30:43 PM »
Coincidence.
Our mathematical models would necessarily correspond to whatever physical reality resulted from whatever big bang. The fact they break down prior to this instance--in hyper-dense and super-hot conditions--doesn't mean some sort of agency had a hand in it.
8660
« on: January 12, 2015, 01:58:01 PM »
I just think about stuff a lot, and keep re-reading the statistics if I can find myself forgetting them.
For the most part, however, what I say is just recalled from memory naturally.
8661
« on: January 12, 2015, 01:33:13 PM »
>pascal's wager
>ever being a legitimate fucking argument
your logical fallacy is: appeal to logic
And that, your honour, is when I appealed to the mods to remove this from Serious.
8662
« on: January 12, 2015, 01:29:15 PM »
>pascal's wager
>ever being a legitimate fucking argument
8663
« on: January 12, 2015, 01:15:18 PM »
I'm eating tea
wut
Informal word for dinner.
8664
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:53:47 PM »
I can understand the reaction given the situation, but it's still retarded.
That being said, antisemitism in the Palestine region dates back to around 1920 and is still unfortunately prevalent among the Muslim population. Palestinians do suffer, sure, but that tells us absolutely nothing on its own.
I don't think your point about the marches being for freedom of expression is fair, either. The government, nor any French group nor the marchers have rallied against this journalist--from a cursory glance (I'm eating tea)--so you can't really conflate them with the actions of a few Israel-hardliners.
8665
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:49:51 PM »
Really bitch? You think it's not important? Do you really believe you are making a noticeable difference in my life or my attitudes by expressing your non-expert opinion?
Just making the point here that it's not important in the least bit to listen to what you have to say and your opinion doesn't make a difference in my life or my interests.
These facile and juvenile arguments should be ignored, and you know why. If you have any intellectual justifications or points to bring up, please share them.
8666
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:47:28 PM »
I'm referring to people who think this incident will spark a new, unified movement against Islamic Extremism in the Middle East.
I honestly haven't seen anybody who thinks this will be the case. If they do, they're kidding themselves.
#AmericanMedia
Hue, I suppose Fox News did claim one of our cities--Birmingham--is a Muslim city recently, so I'm not surprised. But no, this is good news for France herself. This is a country which has been struggling not just economically, but philosophically too. This will, hopefully, cause even a minor revival of a "French identity", which will serve to guide policy and the implementation of proper measures.
8667
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:44:09 PM »
I'm referring to people who think this incident will spark a new, unified movement against Islamic Extremism in the Middle East.
I honestly haven't seen anybody who thinks this will be the case. If they do, they're kidding themselves.
8668
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:42:57 PM »
Too bad there will be little to come out of this, except a heightened sense of patriotism for a period of time.
That's what I fear will happen, nothing truly positive will come out of this.
If anything, it'll be ironic that an attack on a magazine that brought a march for the freedom of expression will also inevitably bring on heightened security and monitoring, and could even restrict certain speech later on.
Still, it is nice to see it has elicited a march on this scale - but I'm waiting on more effective action for these crimes.
There's little appetite for a "French Patriot Act", since legislation relating to security and surveillance was recently passed in the Parliament. The only real changes that'll occur within the French intelligence system is, probably, an expansion of man-power and streamlining. Of course, I could be wrong.
8669
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:36:34 PM »
Too bad there will be little to come out of this, except a heightened sense of patriotism for a period of time.
To think this doesn't shift French politics towards a more value-oriented structure--even if minimally--is to underestimate the subtle consequences this event will have. Nobody's claiming there will be marches every single day in a show of French unity, but the French people will certainly be more aware of the cultural divergences in the world and the French Parliament will certainly be examining the intelligence and security apparatuses of the State.
8670
« on: January 12, 2015, 12:33:48 PM »
Its amazing how it is the single greatest march in French history, even beating out when Paris was liberated from the Germans.
I hope it's a sign of people becoming more aware of the freedom to express oneself.
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