IS involvement in WWII

Put down the beer, Charlie.

The Palestinians shouldn't have had to cede any land to Israel. Especially not their "historical" leadership, who lived through seeing European Jews show up, occupy their land, deny their heritage and establish an ethnostate.

Whether they actually have to or should not have to are different questions. Israel exists, and opining on how Jews never should've emigrated to the Palestine region from the 1880s onwards isn't contributory.

My position is, right or wrong, Israel exists whether we like that or not and a two-state solution is the most workable outcome we have. The main obstacle to a two-state solution is Hamas. The support of which, I might add, along with hostile sentiments towards Israel among Palestinians, is falling.

The Israeli leadership was trying to barter with land that did not belong to it.

The original plan, drawn up by the Peel Commission, would've given the Jews 20% of the land of Palestine. Constituted mainly by a northern enclave of the territory where most of the Jews were in the first place. The Arab Higher Committee rejected it. They later rejected a plan in 1946, which gave 55% of the land to the Jews. And following the 1948 war the Israelis controlled 60% of the land that the Palestinians would've otherwise had in the recent rejected proposal.

The Palestinians had no land, independence, self-determination or anything else that you value prior to the establishment of Israel. They were oppressed under the Ottomans, and the first time they were properly recognised as a nation was following the 1917 Balfour Declaration. The Palestinians were oppressed under Egypt following the 1948 War, and then effectively liberated when the Israeli's took Gaza from the Egyptians and pursued the secular PLO on the grounds that it didn't recognise Israel as a legitimate state. Going so far as to help the Palestinians build mosques.

Even today, the Palestinians have no reason to acknowledge the "legitimacy" of Israel other than the fact that they are vastly outgunned.

Palestinian Arabs are allowed to serve in the Knesset and the Supreme Court, indeed they do. Palestinian Arabs in Gaza are subjected to theocracy, militancy and the rule of a highly aggressive terrorist organisation. Support for Hamas is dwindling, and ill sentiment towards Israel is also falling among Palestinians. I mean, it was falling throughout Operation Cast Lead of all times.

Palestinians in the region are becoming less and less enamoured with the idea of abolishing Israel as a state, and fewer and fewer of them are supporting fundamentalist militant organisations like Hamas. A two-state solution is slowly becoming more feasible, and it looks rather unlikely that the region will be reduced to the tribalistic politics of ethnic self-determination that you seem to want it to be.

Frankly, I can understand why the Palestinians would rather commit those crimes than take the high road and let ethnocentrist fucking nazis run them out of their homeland.

They don't.

Just write it uppercase you autist

>changing the letter case of a variable

Literally kill yourself.

https://plug.dj/aoki

Quote from: challengerX on September 17, 2016, 04:54:24 AM

value the family unit

why is this so fucking important

Stable family structures are vital to addressing poverty.

You're pretty much entirely correct, except when it comes to Islamic immigration. It's not so bad in America, but European countries have something of an issue--especially the UK--with Muslim ghettos, and second-generation immigrants not assimilating properly. Something like 52% of British Muslims want homosexuality to be illegal.

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I think it's more disturbing that there are actually people that exist who support her.

I think people say the same for Trump

and then you realize whoever wins, we all lose

whos death is tied to trump?

his voters

i mean, you're braindead if you're a trump supporter--that's close enough, right

says the socially retarded failed English major with a sex phobia who's also afraid to drive

says the ex-commie (((anglo))) with a drug habit who can't own guns

Dude, what?

You're replying to Tyger, not me.

All the rest pay $20 per capsule, which is nowhere within the realm of that $750 outrageousness the media kept harping on.

The same drug is available in the UK from $0.66/capsule, and in Australia for $0.18/capsule. You're right that patients who cannot afford the drug are given it freely, but this kind of price hike falls on not only the insurance companies, but taxpayers too.

Meanwhile, other orphan drugs will have you paying hundreds upon thousands of dollars per year for recurrent treatment, whereas Daraprim just straight-up cures you of toxoplasmosis.

Orphan drugs like pyrimethamine are given protected market status by the FDA; meaning no other company can distribute it in the U.S. It would be possible to make a generic drug with bioequivalence, but Shrkeli has set up his distribution chain in such a way as to minimise the "risk" of competitors obtaining the means of creating a bioequivalent generic.

Shkreli might not be able to turn a profit without a price hike, but why buy the drug licence in the first place? This dude's whole MO is purchasing drug licenses and then hiking the price. He doesn't engage in drug research or development--nothing like that--he just raises the price, cements his position as a monopolist, and reaps the rewards.

WSJ

Germany seems to be softening its stance on Brexit, and not a moment too soon.

“Given Britain’s size, significance, and its long membership of the European Union, there will probably be a special status which only bears limited comparison to that of countries that have never belonged to the European Union,” Michael Roth, Germany’s minister of European affairs, said last month. Mr. Roth’s comments mark a departure from Chancellor Angela Merkel’s declaration, made shortly after the Brexit referendum in June, that Britain would receive no special treatment, nor would it be allowed to “cherry pick” benefits such as full access to the single market.

The change in tone was probably inevitable. Mrs. Merkel’s initial response was a negotiating tactic that stalled when new British Prime Minister Theresa May refused to trigger formal exit negotiations immediately. Mrs. Merkel apparently hoped that the lack of any Brexit plan might lead the British government to call a second referendum or an early election.


Instead, the passage of time is revealing how weak Germany’s and the EU’s negotiating position actually is. Politically, Mrs. Merkel is committed to “ever closer” integration within the EU and wants to transform Germany into a “moral superpower.” But these goals, which have manifested partly in a willingness to bail out bankrupt eurozone member states and partly in controversial policies, such as welcoming more than 1.5 million migrants over the past 18 months, carry spiraling economic and social costs that German voters might not be prepared to bear.

So Mrs. Merkel has sought to disguise the true costs of European union by shifting the book value of Germany’s total euro rescue loans and guarantee exposure to the Bundesbank, the European Central Bank and the European Stability Mechanism. But this strategy has turned those three institutions into “bad banks” holding nonperforming assets such as Greek sovereign debt. With taxpayers on the hook in the event of losses at those institutions, Berlin can’t afford many more financial shocks.


Meanwhile, Germany has stood by while, for the sake of holding the euro together, the ECB has pursued policies that hurt Germans. German savers lost interest income worth €125 billion ($140 billion) between 2011 and 2015 as a result of the ECB’s ultralow rates and quantitative easing, according to a study from Germany’s Postbank. And the open door to migrants will cost €50 billion in 2016 and 2017 alone and nearly €400 billion over the next 20 years, assuming optimistically that most of these refugees eventually find work. If integration fails or many more refugees arrive, the costs will be significantly higher.

Due to continuing euro crisis measures and the increasing costs of its refugee policy, Germany’s economy and public finances are likely to weaken while German unemployment should start rising again beginning next year. With economic growth chronically sputtering, Berlin (and the EU overall) will have to depend on trade-induced moderate growth to minimize the future costs of these various policies to taxpayers.

Trade with the U.K. will be a crucial component. Nine EU member states send at least 5% of their total exports to Britain, and in Germany that percentage is around 7.5. Germany’s trade surplus with the U.K. was €51 billion in 2015, around 20.5% of Germany’s entire trade surplus.

Yet even these figures understate Germany’s economic dependence on Britain. Around 36% of Germany’s total exports in 2015 went to countries within the eurozone. However, under the so-called Target2 payments system operated by the ECB, Germany’s balance-of-payments surplus with the eurozone is financed not by the transfer of foreign-currency reserves, gold or other near-liquid assets, but by an open-ended overdraft facility granted by the Bundesbank.

Under this peculiar system, the exporter is paid not by the importing country but by Germany’s central bank, which itself never receives payment. Rather, a credit note is issued by the importing country’s central bank, which it has no obligation ever to pay.

The Bundesbank’s Target2 balance stood at more than €660 billion as of July. If Germany’s eurozone exports were paid for in the same way as its other exports, it would be a much richer country.

That Germany is moderately prosperous at all under this system is owed in large measure to its trade surplus with partners outside the eurozone. This surplus is paid for in the traditional way, by transferring actual money to Germany. Germany and other export-driven eurozone economies thus depend on trade with Britain as a key partner outside the dysfunctional eurozone much more than is commonly realized.

ECB President Mario Draghi is well aware of the EU’s fragility. According to ECB and Italian political sources, he has assured investment banks, including Goldman Sachs, that Germany won’t do anything to put trade relations at risk. Mr. Draghi has also reportedly expressed confidence that French and European Commission resistance to concessions to Britain could be overcome and that, in return, Mrs. Merkel would be open to French demands for a eurozone finance ministry after the 2017 German election, as well as new bail-out facilities for Italy’s moribund banks. According to Wells Fargo, Italian banks are currently sitting on €350 billion in nonperforming loans.

If the British government plays its hand well, it will be able to choose its terms of renegotiation with the EU. By postponing the official start of withdrawal negotiation until 2017, Mrs. May has made a promising start.

been fun seeing people from this site go from r/politics mode to full /pol/ over the years

Nige is /pol/?

Fuck off.

Gotta love people's reactions when someone says they aren't proud of their nationality.

Everybody should be proud of their nationality.

Unless they're a fucking gook.

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Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 13, 2016, 07:19:26 PM

Why the fuck are you reading his essay?

I have to peer review it for my English 101 course.

Tell him to pick another course.

it's his major

Which is exactly why you need to tell him to gtfo soon, he's gonna waste his college education

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 13, 2016, 07:19:26 PM

Why the fuck are you reading his essay?

I have to peer review it for my English 101 course.

Tell him to pick another course.

Why the fuck are you reading his essay?