Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 13, 2015, 06:24:11 PM

Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 13, 2015, 06:22:01 PM

It'd still suck (for me), since the UK is a beautiful country, and I want to visit it again and again. But if they leave the EU, it'd make it great deal more difficult for me to enter to country to visit.

See, personal interest guides opinions!!!

I agree actually, I really wish we had a more liberal attitude to immigration considering how massively important it is. I'm just not convinced that the current benefits offered by the EU are worth the costs.

Yeah. For you, you really have no reason to give a shit about the EU, since you don't seem like you want to leave the UK. And you probably only see its more negative aspects. So you'd see the EU in more negative light.

While for me, having the EU survive is pretty much what my future plans are resting on, and they'd be affected a great deal if the EU fell apart, so I see it in positive light quite obviously.

That's fair enough. I can't string you up by the bollocks for your opinion when all of your incentives line up that way.

It'd still suck (for me), since the UK is a beautiful country, and I want to visit it again and again. But if they leave the EU, it'd make it great deal more difficult for me to enter to country to visit.

See, personal interest guides opinions!!!

I agree actually, I really wish we had a more liberal attitude to immigration considering how massively important it is. I'm just not convinced that the current benefits offered by the EU are worth the costs.

And you're probably neutral or positive about them.

Positive about Farage and their policies.

Negative about their actual ability to govern. They're still to young, and I wouldn't trust them with the reins yet. Now, a minor Conservative government, with loose support from UKIP in opposition? I wouldn't mind that.

UKIP will probably end up being co-opted by the Tories depending on how the EU referendum goes in 2017, and whether or not the leadership can keep the party under control.

Fuck off, already. For fuck's sake.

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political parties seem a lot less divided in the UK

"96pc similar to you"

MAH NIGGUH

See people, this is why you don't have monetary unions.

It doesn't lead to anything good.

At least, that's how it feels like in Greece.

Yeah, Americans felt the same about Nixon when he imposed price controls. If the population were truly competent, we'd be anarchists.

When you think the problem has been austerity and corruption, and then you turn around to find a party willing to increase spending and stand up to the fat cats over in the EU, of course you're going to feel like they're doing a good job. That doesn't make you correct, however.

I don't feel enough energy nor I have time to spend time and looking into solid evidence to back up the decisions that are currently being made, nor I think it's viable since I don't know much about economics to begin with.

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gtfo

I'm really sad Gaara's not around any more. He was great.

would you resent such a decision (not its merits but its outcome)?

Yup.

EU > Russia.

It would be flat-out immoral for the Greek government to pursue such a strategy.

So you're in favor of child porn?

If "in favour" constitutes not being punished for watching it, then sure.

The Greek government is angry that the EU released a statement without its consent.

The new Greek government has spoken out against the EU partners over the statement that lays the blame for Saturday’s fatal attack on the Ukrainian city of Mariupol on Russia. Hungary, Slovakia, and Austria voiced similar objections earlier.

The government, headed by Prime Minister Alexis Tripras, said in a press release on Tuesday that “the aforementioned statement was released without the prescribed procedure to obtain consent by the member states, and particularly without ensuring the consent of Greece."

“In this context, it is underlined that Greece does not consent to this statement,” Tsipras added.

He voiced his “discontent” in a phone call to EU foreign relations chief Federica Mogherini.

The EU statement was published on Tuesday morning, saying that all 28 EU leaders had agreed that Russia bears “responsibility” for a rocket attack on the city of Mariupol that left 30 people dead on Saturday.

Brussels objected that the Greek government had been informed about the statement on Russia and Ukraine, but no one had contradicted it until Tuesday.

European Council President Donald Tusk initiated the EU statement, and claimed he had called Tsipras and the “sherpas” - top officials taking care of EU issues in each leader's office.

One EU diplomat reportedly said that Greece had attempted to remove the line blaming Russia for the Mariupol killing. Also, Austria, Hungary, and Slovakia tried, and failed, to “water down” the communiqué, the EU Observer website stated.

It’s the first time that such a situation - a retroactive abjuration of an EU line - has happened, EU Council official stressed.

Foreign affairs analyst Serja Trifkovich told RT that other countries might follow suit and oppose Brussels’ policies on the Ukrainian crisis.

“It’s very difficult in the EU to break the ranks. Now that Greece has made a move, I confidently expect that the Hungarians in particular, but perhaps also Slovakia and Cyprus, will [find] the courage to say no to the dictate from Brussels.”

The EU statement on Russia and Ukraine also urged for more sanctions, for considering “any appropriate action” against Moscow.

One of the measures being mulled is to block Russia from the global interbank SWIFT payment system.

Economist Max Fraad Wolff told RT that this would be a drastic measure.

“Let’s be fair and honest here: if you’re cut off from SWIFT, your ability to have any kind of normal business flow with the global commerce community is hampered.”

However, what he envisages is that “cooler heads will prevail” and that “we won’t see Russia cut off from the SWIFT system,” as it is “in very few parties’ long-term interests.”

If it is indeed true that the European Union initiated such a statement without the consent of the Greek government, Tripras is absolutely right to be furious. It is worrying, in one respect, however in that Greece has broken ranks knowing the geopolitical threat and the ground this could give to Russia. If the EU is good for anything at the moment, then it's acting as a buffer and power bloc to combat Putin's aspirations. Although, like I say, the EU should take responsibility for failing to follow the proper procedure.

However, the claims of Brussels and Tusk could well be true, also. If it is the case that the Greek government waited this long to contradict the statement, it highlights a worrying degree of wilful manipulation on their part in undermining the Union's governance. It also underlines a worrying trend which could be developing of closer relations between Russia and Greece, which wouldn't be good for the overall situation in Ukraine, or for relations between the EU and Russia--as well as the power bloc it is trying to establish around the Eurasian Economic Union.

Who even gives a fuck about product placement, unless it's like seriously fucking with the acting or the plot?

Netflix + Sony products = more money for Netflix = more money for HoC.

Which is good. Because judging by Season 3 it needs some more fucking money.

Rap is like vagina, eat it, beat it, till it bleeds

What the everliving fuck.

Sue me.

It's not my fault undemocratic supranational economic unions don't work.