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Serious / The institutionalised abuse of children strikes again
« on: March 23, 2015, 01:18:47 PM »
Scotland Yard is under investigation for protecting paedophiles.

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LONDON — Scotland Yard is being investigated over extraordinary claims that police officers were guilty of suppressing evidence, halting investigations, and colluding with politicians to cover up a pedophile network operating at the heart of the British government.

At last, the spotlight will fall on senior officers who have been accused of turning a blind eye to allegations of murder and child abuse because the men were considered too powerful to touch.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC), Britain’s version of the internal affairs division, announced on Monday that they were investigating 14 alleged incidents of corruption between 1970 and 2005. The alleged breaches were uncovered by detectives who are probing the existence of a VIP pedophile ring that was allegedly protected by the Thatcher government.

“These allegations are of historic, high level corruption of the most serious nature,” said Sarah Green, the IPCC deputy chair. “Allegations of this nature are of grave concern and I would like to reassure people of our absolute commitment to ensuring that the investigations are thorough and robust.”

The hunt for officers who protected child abusers comes after a growing body of evidence emerged to suggest that some of the most powerful people in Britain were aware of the systematic abuse of children and did nothing to stop it. The investigation into police collusion in the cover-up promises to be one of the most explosive in Scotland Yard’s history.

One of the incidents centers on a luxury apartment block near Westminster where boys were allegedly taken to regular sex abuse parties attended by Members of Parliament. The IPCC will investigate claims that a police operation at Dolphin Square “was stopped because officers were too near prominent people.” The building, on the banks of the River Thames, is popular with MPs who need second homes in London close to parliament. One survivor claimed boys aged to 16 were raped and even murdered by politicians inside the complex.

Investigators say they will also probe an allegation that Special Branch, a now defunct intelligence and national security unit of the police, snatched an incriminating file of evidence from a newspaper editor. Papers given to the journalist by a Labour politician showed that a network of pedophile-friendly MPs were operating within the Houses of Parliament, and that senior law enforcement officials knew about it. Don Hale, the editor concerned, told The Daily Beast earlier this month that he had been stunned when officers barged into his office and seized the papers: “These bully boys come storming in, they said, ‘We’re not here to negotiate. Hand them over or we’ll arrest you now.’”
The IPCC have published a list of the 14 claims they have decided are worthy of investigation. Detectives from Scotland Yard passed on a further two which the independent investigators said they were still assessing.

One of the allegations concerns “an investigation into a pedophile ring, in which a number of people were convicted, [but officers] did not take action in relation to other more prominent individuals.” In 1978, an envelope of obscene images was discovered on a London bus that belonged to Sir Peter Hayman. After a subsequent investigation, a number of the people he was sharing such correspondence with were prosecuted. Hayman, who was one of the top officials in MI6, not only escaped prosecution but his name was withheld from the court.

Hayman had been High Commissioner in Canada and reportedly Britain’s top liaison with the CIA. Thatcher later told aides to make sure that his crime was not disclosed.
The Daily Beast has been told on numerous occasions that police investigations into pedophile rings were halted by unnamed senior officials. Some of the survivors of abuse in the 1980s have refused to come forward again after their trust in the authorities was destroyed when they reported crimes at the time.  Scotland Yard hopes this independent investigation will convince potential witnesses that current detectives are worthy of their trust.

If the allegations are examined thoroughly, however, it seems more likely that the reputation of the police is set to suffer even further. Simon Danczuk, one of the Labour MPs who have led the charge to hold police officers and politicians to account, said: "I think we are on the cusp of finding out exactly what went on in the ‘70s and 1980s."

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Relatively harmless budget restrictions like withholding highway funds for states refusing to raise the drinking age to 21 is one thing, but this is literally holding peoples' lives hostage.
...and being a climate change denier isn't?
Sorry, how is pandering to your political base and being an idiot even half as dangerous as withholding funds preparing for disasters. It's like withholding funding for flood defences because a specific governor doesn't believe a hurricane will occur.

Give them the money, legally require them to spend it in a certain way and let them throw their hissy fit. Don't punish the citizens by only helping them after they've been maimed.

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So the fact that we have idiots means we should punish every single person in a state by revoking disaster preparedness funds? Really.

If anything it'll cost more in the long-run; FEMA is still obligated to supply relief.

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Oh God.
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The Federal Emergency Management Agency is making it tougher for governors to deny man-made climate change. Starting next year, the agency will approve disaster-preparedness funds only for states whose governors approve hazard-mitigation plans that address climate change.

This may put several Republican governors who maintain that the Earth isn't warming due to human activities, or prefer to take no action, in a political bind. Their position may block their states' access to hundreds of millions of dollars in FEMA funds. In the last five years, the agency has awarded an average $1 billion a year in grants to states and territories for taking steps to mitigate the effects of disasters.

"If a state has a climate denier governor that doesn't want to accept a plan, that would risk mitigation work not getting done because of politics," said Becky Hammer, an attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council's water program. "The governor would be increasing the risk to citizens in that state" because of his climate beliefs.

The policy doesn't affect federal money for relief after a hurricane, flood, or other disaster. Specifically, beginning in March 2016, states seeking preparedness money will have to assess how climate change threatens their communities. Governors will have to sign off on hazard-mitigation plans. While some states, including New York, have already started incorporating climate risks in their plans, most haven't because FEMA's 2008 guidelines didn't require it.

"This could potentially become a major conflict for several Republican governors," said Barry Rabe, an expert on the politics of climate change at the University of Michigan. "We aren't just talking about coastal states."

Climate change affects droughts, rainfall, and tornado activity. Fracking is being linked to more earthquakes, he said. "This could affect state leaders across the country."

Among those who could face a difficult decision are New Jersey's Gov. Christie and fellow Republican Govs. Rick Scott of Florida, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Greg Abbott of Texas, and Pat McCrory of North Carolina - all of whom have denied man-made climate change or refused to take action. The states they lead face immediate threats from climate change.

The five governors' offices did not return requests for comment by press time.

Environmentalists have been pressing FEMA to include global warming in its hazard-mitigation guidelines for almost three years. FEMA told the Natural Resources Defense Council in early 2014 that it would revise the guidelines. It issued draft rules in October and officially released the new procedures last week as partisan politics around climate change have been intensifying.

On March 8, the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting said Scott instituted an unwritten ban on the use of the phrases climate change or global warming" by Florida officials. Also this month, Sen. Jim Inhofe (R., Okla.) took a snowball to the Senate floor as evidence against warming, highlighting GOP leaders' climate views.

"The challenges posed by climate change, such as more intense storms, frequent heavy precipitation, heat waves, drought, extreme flooding, and higher sea levels, could significantly alter the types and magnitudes of hazards impacting states in the future," FEMA wrote in its new procedures.

FEMA's disaster-preparedness program has been granting money to states since the 1980s for projects as diverse as raising buildings out of floodplains and building safe rooms. States are required to update their plans every five years to be eligible for the agency's mitigation funding. Since 2010, FEMA has doled out more than $4.6 billion to states and territories as part of this program.

Republican-led regions constitute eight of the top 10 recipients of this category of FEMA money between 2010 and 2014. Louisiana was No. 1, having received almost $1.1 billion from FEMA for hazard mitigation. New Jersey was third with nearly $379 million, and Texas fourth with almost $343 million.

The gubernatorial approval clause was included in the new guidelines to "raise awareness and support for implementing the actions in the mitigation strategy and increasing statewide resilience to natural hazards," FEMA spokeswoman Susan Hendrick said.

The new federal rules don't require public involvement in the creation of states' disaster-preparedness plans, eliminating the opportunity for environmental groups and concerned citizens to submit comments or concerns about the assessments.

This just seems fucking stupid.

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The Flood / Why I'm voting UKIP
« on: March 23, 2015, 11:16:39 AM »

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It's not that.
It's just that I hear them saying the MOST outrageous shit in comparison to other parties.
You're kidding, right?

A UKIP councillor saying gays caused the floods in Yorkshire, and then getting fired, is more outrageous to you than serving former-Nazi Labour councillors? Or a Lib Dem planting bombs?
Try reading my sentence properly.
I did.

I just have no idea why somebody would limit the judgement of a party to words, as opposed to actions. Y'know, planting bombs is worse than calling a Thai lady "ting tong", even if the former requires no speech.

Even so, UKIP can't even be the party saying the most outrageous shit. A Tory minister believes in homeopathy, a Labour minister called for prisoners to be gunned down with machine guns. . . If you honestly UKIP are any worse than the other parties on this front, you aren't paying enough attention.

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It's not that.
It's just that I hear them saying the MOST outrageous shit in comparison to other parties.
You're kidding, right?

A UKIP councillor saying gays caused the floods in Yorkshire, and then getting fired, is more outrageous to you than serving former-Nazi Labour councillors? Or a Lib Dem planting bombs?

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Yeah, no shit. Liberal politicians (not necessarily liberals in general) pander to minorities, immigrants, and the poor with promises from a deluded fantasy-land full of easy money, unlimited jobs, and free social programs.
God, you know how to make me hard.

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Republicans haven't been fiscally conservative for decades.
but muh farm subsidies

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 05:39:00 PM »
Yes
Wow.

I'm going to go home and totally re-evaluate my life now.

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 05:27:52 PM »
You're just a kid on an edgy moral high horse
So thinking adoption > IVF is an "edgy moral high horse".

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 05:01:59 PM »
lol you're barely 18
So?

Will I turn 30 and suddenly realise the virtues of IVF?

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 03:49:34 PM »
agreeing that IVF is a selfish route compared to adoption.
Well that's all right then.

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 03:23:34 PM »
Calm down Verbatim
It's true. The institutionalised abuse of children is pretty much an epidemic, at least in the U.K.

It's practically immoral to use IVF. It's essentially neglectful.

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The Flood / Re: I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 03:22:41 PM »
To me, picking out parents is more controversial than genetically modifying an existing embryo. Say for example you take embryos and filter out disorders and other undesirable medical traits; compared to picking out a sperm and ovum from donors who possess desirable traits (be it medical, athletic, or otherwise), the former is much more defensible than the latter.
I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand. I'm missing your point.

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The Flood / I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments
« on: March 22, 2015, 02:54:02 PM »
It is synthetic. IVF babies are artificial. It's essentially a selfish way of satisfying your own genetic and biological desires.

If you're gay, or infertile, and want a kid then fucking adopt one you cunt.

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So the Conservatives are the only good guys left!!
Eh, not really.

The Health Minister believes in homeopathy.

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Serious / Re: Cruz to Announce Presidential Run Monday
« on: March 22, 2015, 02:13:41 PM »
That's like picking between a heaping pile of shit, and a heaping pile of shit with an air freshener next to it.
Yeah, and anybody who doesn't choose the second is a fucking lunatic or stupid.

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Serious / Re: Cruz to Announce Presidential Run Monday
« on: March 22, 2015, 01:40:32 PM »
If anybody here can vote in the Republican primaries, please vote Bush or Walker >.>

> Walker

Meta, pls
Better Walker than Cruz.

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The Flood / Re: So my dog just got attacked by another dog
« on: March 22, 2015, 01:31:34 PM »
If not carry a walking stick and beat the shit out of the other dog.
10/10.

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The Flood / Re: So my dog just got attacked by another dog
« on: March 22, 2015, 12:49:02 PM »
Fucking hell.
If that happened to my dogs the other wouldn't have gotten away with teeth.

Is your dog hurt or did he just get a bad fright?
Just a bad fright, thankfully. I held him back and stopped the other dog.

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The Flood / So my dog just got attacked by another dog
« on: March 22, 2015, 12:40:35 PM »
He's an old boy now, getting on 11 years. The dog was a bit smaller than him (bearing in mind mine is a cocker spaniel), and was snapping at his nose. My dog, on the other hand, is deaf and has somewhat poor eyesight. Poor bugger started crying and shivering.

This is why you keep dogs on a fucking leash.

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Nigel Farage has said his two children have failed to return home after his family was chased out of pub by protesters.

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The UKIP leader branded demonstrators "scum" after they invaded the pub where he was having a family lunch.

Mr Farage was apparently with his wife and two younger children at the Queen's Head in Downe, Kent, when the incident took place.

Dozens of demonstrators initially went into the George & Dragon, where Mr Farage has previously been pictured having a drink, before realising he was in the other pub nearby.

They are said to have gone into the Queen's Head, chased the Farages out and then jumped on the Ukip leader's car bonnet as he drove away.

Mr Farage said afterwards: "I hope these 'demonstrators' are proud of themselves.

"My children were so scared by their behaviour that they ran away to hide.

"At the time of writing this a relative has gone to look for them, and they are not yet at home. These people are scum."

Mr Farage's children with current wife Kirsten are Victoria and Isabelle, thought to be aged 15 and 10 respectively. He also has two grown up children from his previous marriage.

Staff at the Queen's Head refused to comment on the episode, while the George & Dragon said protesters had initially claimed they were there for a birthday party.

Protest organiser Dan Glass said the group was in fancy dress and included migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mums.

The demonstrators said Mr Farage had pushed through to get into his car, and was then chased down the road, with some people jumping on the bonnet of his car.

Ukip is understood to have requested taxpayer-funded security for Mr Farage during the election campaign amid fears that he is regularly being targeted by protesters.

Well, somebody's got to fight the good fight, right? No better strategy than assaulting a man with his family, jumping on his car and scaring off his children.

Disgusting.

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Serious / Re: Cruz to Announce Presidential Run Monday
« on: March 22, 2015, 11:12:49 AM »
If anybody here can vote in the Republican primaries, please vote Bush or Walker >.>

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Is that the whole documentary? I missed it on the TV.
Yes.

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Serious / Re: Cruz to Announce Presidential Run Monday
« on: March 22, 2015, 11:01:59 AM »
Oh God.

Not Cruz.

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If you're a gay or a lesbian Republican your party is against that sexual orientation. The same is for same sex marriage.
I'm bisexual and consider myself a moderate supporter of same-sex marriage. Yet I'm also (somewhat) a supporter of UKIP. Why are you insisting that people's sexual orientation must define them wholly? Why should I not be allowed to organise my own political priorities because you fail to understand why an LGBT person would vote for a non-/anti-LGBT party.

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If you're a Republican women that wants to get an abortion your party is against that.
   
Because the parties are homogeneous, right? Even in the U.K. you can't totally talk of parties as completely national; interests and perspectives differ according to geography, and that is even more true of the U.S.

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If you're a Republican that needs public assistants to get by your party is against you for that.
So you're basically saying poor people are too stupid to be able to make up their own minds? I come from a working-class family of (until recently) Labour voters, whose income was halved following the Great Recession. Does the fact that I vote Conservative/UKIP immediately invalidate my political opinions?



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Several months old, yet nobody seems aware of it.

Enter former Green Party councillor Mr Duncan:

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And on 28 June, he tweeted: "Armed Forces Day has certainly brought the hired killers onto the streets of #Brighton today. Hard to explain to my son."

In July, he apologised but was thrown out of the local Green Party.

[...]

In May 2012 he apologised after he tweeted: "I only smoke weed when I'm murdering, raping and looting."

And then, of course, there's the Liberal Democrat councillor who was charged for racially aggravated assault. Let's not forget the one who planted bombs too.

And then there are former Nazis serving in Labour, and BNPers changing allegiance.

Can we stop the circus.

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Politics.

Unsurprisingly.

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