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Serious / The Guardian is spreading lies about the European Union
« on: May 16, 2015, 09:13:13 AM »
No surprises there

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Given our public sector funding difficulties, and the understandably low priority research has in the political arena, we simply cannot afford to lose out on such a successful and empowering pot of EU money

"Scientists love evidence, and the evidence is clear", the Guardian blithely asserts. "Bluntly, if the UK were to leave the EU, we would massively and irreversibly damage an enterprise on which our future depends" it claims. Essentially, if we leave the EU then EU research funding would dry up and irretrievably damage our future.

This is an outright lie; there is no requirement for a member of the EU's research programme to also be a member of the EU. For fuck's sake, Israel is part of the programme. Even if we remain members of the EEA or not following Brexit, we'd still be able to participate regardless.

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Serious / Re: Looks like welfare caps work
« on: May 16, 2015, 09:02:35 AM »
Welfare has its issues, but cutting and capping aren't the solution. Jobs are.
Sure, but you still need a welfare system that heavily incentivises employment and is actually good at alleviating poverty. If I had a choice between welfare and then having a job with less money I would choose welfare. This cap is only good for the sole reason that it seems to be incentivising employment to some degree; even if it's through a cap.

Ideally the welfare system would be based on wage subsidies like the EITC in the US, because they seem to actually work.

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Serious / Re: The UK fox hunting ban
« on: May 16, 2015, 09:00:25 AM »
And you think that's a commendable motive?
Having the vote in the first place, or making it a free vote?

I think the first is insignificant, and the second simply sensible.

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Serious / Re: The UK fox hunting ban
« on: May 16, 2015, 08:57:14 AM »
Conservatives are wrong on this one.
The Conservatives have no position. It'll be a free vote.

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Serious / Re: The UK fox hunting ban
« on: May 16, 2015, 08:39:08 AM »
While I don't really stay abreast of UK news, I have read that Cameron's motives for the repeal are less to do with farmer's livelihoods and more to do with his personal love of hunting as a sport.
It's neither. He's doing it to throw his backbenchers a bone. If he had a more serious motive the potential repeal of it would be whipped, instead of being a free vote among the party.

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Serious / The UK fox hunting ban
« on: May 16, 2015, 08:17:54 AM »
I think I'm opposed to it. And by "oppose", I mean I would probably vote for its repeal were I given the chance. For the most part, it's a non-issue to me which I rarely think about; I don't know as much as I should about it, so I'm open to persuading.

But, it seems to me, that most of the people who support the ban on hunting foxes with dogs don't actually live in the countryside and don't deal with fox incursions. I wouldn't say I agree with the hunts with a lot of pomp, which go on for furlongs and furlongs but government regulation of the issue seems to be somewhat out of hand.

People don't seem to realise that dogs kill quickly; much faster, and much less painfully than a misplaced rifle bullet fired in the dead of night. Not to mention, shooting appears to be more indiscriminate; foxes who go after chickens are usually old and incapable of feeding themselves in safer ways and I'd imagine they're going to be the ones caught by the dogs as the younger and more agile foxes make their escape.

It seems as if urban people are just looking in, seeing fancy clothes and blood and denouncing it as aristocratic barbarism without much further thought.

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Serious / Re: Looks like welfare caps work
« on: May 16, 2015, 08:09:49 AM »
Nobody likes living on welfare. Capping it or not doesn't really make a difference in my eyes, because they're getting rid of a lot of welfare in Spain and unemployment is around 30%.

People getting out of welfare is more likely to do with growth in the economy.
I agree, but I don't think we can just avoid the obvious poor incentives involved in welfare. In both the UK and the US, the systems are so complicated that working more will mean you end up with less money because you lose your eligibility for some of the programmes you were previously on.

Some will probably be honourable enough to work anyway, some will find jobs which pay even better than the money they'll lose. But, in the end, some people will always be lazy cunts.

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Serious / Looks like welfare caps work
« on: May 16, 2015, 07:37:52 AM »
Financial Times

More than 20,000 people, who found their benefit payouts capped, have subsequently found work or claimed less housing benefits. According to the IFS, those subjected to the cap are 41pc more likely to enter employment than those not subject to the cap.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 16, 2015, 04:54:21 AM »
The death penalty is never the answer.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Spoiler
Usually.

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The Flood / tfw prime minister is a thug
« on: May 15, 2015, 05:07:11 PM »
YouTube


y0lo

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Serious / Re: If our universe exist, then what doesn't exist?
« on: May 15, 2015, 04:36:39 PM »
dustin pls go

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 04:21:32 PM »
but killing someone for having a shitty ideology or a wrong one is unpleasantly reminiscent of exactly what the people with said ideologies would like to do.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree. You're a scumbag if you're murdering Islamic militants in the streets, I'm just saying we shouldn't forget we have the intellectual capacity to be proportionate between different levels of immorality. It's all well and good comparing actions to ideal counterfactuals, but actual moral considerations often don't give us the luxury of such counterfactuals.

I don't think the killing of Tsarnaev is moral in any absolute sense, it's just the least immoral option.

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Serious / Re: David Cameron and the Tories are ready for class war
« on: May 15, 2015, 04:18:37 PM »
afaik the BIJ is independent enough for it to not be the usual slander and speculation that passes for news. lol.
I fucking hope so. The election coverage--especially after the Tory win--has really turned me off mainstream media. I pretty much only read the Financial Times now.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 04:09:03 PM »
but it's still sinking to their level.
Hardly. Motives matter.

Killing somebody as a display of intolerance towards toxic, fascist ideologies (prisoner or not) is always going to be more moral than killing somebody (prisoner or not) in pursuit of those very same toxic, fascist ideologies. Even if the net body count is the same at the end of the day. Some people have more moral worth than others.

I was opposed to the death penalty for a very long time, and still am in most instances, but the nature of war has changed. People like Tsarnaev aren't just criminals, they're enemy combatants willing to bomb civilians in pursuit of their Medieval world-view. I can't morally justify keeping him alive on the taxpayer's dime.

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Serious / Re: David Cameron and the Tories are ready for class war
« on: May 15, 2015, 04:02:57 PM »
but it's not really great for the government of a country to be implementing policies that result in the population going hungry.
I agree, but it seems like more of a function of an incredibly unwieldy welfare system that has been added to constantly since the premier of Lloyd George. Take Universal Credit, for example, it's a good idea that falls flat on its fucking face because piecemeal reforms to a complicated system don't work.

But, of course, I'm not claiming the Tories are without malicious idiots. I don't know whether IDS is malicious, or just an idiot, but when people like Edwina Currie say that individuals who use food banks also waste their money on tattoos and dog food there's clearly an issue. But it's the individuals at fault, not some imaginary ethos of the whole party.

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Even if it's not technically corruption, it still reeks of it and does nothing to dismiss the 'looking out for your pals' image that the tories have.
To be honest, I don't really know enough about the sale itself to comment so I'll have to read up on it further.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:58:22 PM »
ISIS totally didn't see a surge in popularity shortly after Al Qaeda died off.
Which also coincided with the Coalition pulling out of Iraq, a surge in Saudi support and their victory in capturing East Syrian oilfields.

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Whereas if they slung the little shit into a supermax to rot away, that's not going to give him any publicity about his pathetic cause.
I highly doubt that; Islamists are still enamoured with the murder of Lee Rigby and anybody willing to perform domestic terrorist attacks or fly over to Syria doesn't need Tsarnaev's death to galvanise them. It's like saying video games cause violent behaviour; we know that hate crime and terrorism aren't linked to variables like education, economic well-being or mental illness. It's the result of toxic values, which need no help from bombings to develop.

I don't agree with everything the West is doing, Cameron and May's new Extremism Disruption Orders make me uneasy. But, make no mistake, we are at war.

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Serious / Re: David Cameron and the Tories are ready for class war
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:54:03 PM »
ATOS
Yeah, IDS is a fucking scumbag. Not even going to try and defend him, there.

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there has been a vast increase in the number of people needing to use foodbanks
What's the problem? Is it bad that people can voluntarily pull together after the greatest recession in our country's history? Not to mention, the amount of people on foodbanks is something like 1.5pc of the population for an average of 3 days each.

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or how the sale of royal mail went.
It went fine; it's ridiculously hard to value a company "properly" which has never traded privately or needed to attract private capital.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:36:34 PM »
Aaaaand they made him a martyr, GG.
Who cares? You can't not make martyrs for these people. They will find a martyr no matter what you do. I'm still waiting for the thousands of bin Ladens that were supposed to come after us when we killed the original. . .

And if we have to deal with more Tsarnaev's as a result of this verdict, we'll fucking kill them as well.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:29:38 PM »
I think that rehabilitation should be valued over punishment
I totally agree, but it's worth noting that I) perhaps about half of all violent criminals aren't going to be rehabilitated anyway, and II) some crimes are so heinous that it isn't worth keeping the individual alive.

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Serious / Re: David Cameron and the Tories are ready for class war
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:28:24 PM »
I think that's looking into it a little too deeply though, it's poking fun at the stereotype of the evil bloodsucking tory rather than going 'David Cameron is actually eating children at the weekends'

And I'd say you see the same shit on both sides to an extent, the endless coverage of milibum looking like a twonk whilst eating that bacon sandwich for example. Or Nick Clegg's 'I'm Sorry' remix. The party in power is the one that gets the most flak/parodies, when Bliar was in power people were laying into his bullshit with just as much vigour.
But the point is some people do actually think the Tories are bloodsuckers. It's not that they just think their policies aren't beneficial, they actually think them intentionally malicious. Making fun of Miliband, Clegg or Blair is different; two got shafted for looking either incompetent or untrustworthy, and the other was shafted for being a fucking showman. But, in most instances, the whole parties they were part of were not cast in the same light and those criticisms are all valid.

I mean, come on, when's the last time people injured police officers or put graffiti on a war memorial because they didn't like Labour or the Liberal Democrats.

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Serious / Re: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev got death penalty.
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:17:31 PM »
Punishment is a terrible way of looking at both ethics and jurisprudence.

Nonetheless, this was the correct decision.

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Serious / David Cameron and the Tories are ready for class war
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:04:42 PM »
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I really don't get this bullshit. I know the rap was probably made in jest, but there are people out there who will watch this and go "Yes, that is exactly what the Tories are". And, the funny thing is, this comes almost entirely from the Left. It's what Labour, the Liberal Democrats, the Greens and fuck-nuggets like Russell Brand all seem to think: the Conservatives are a party of psychopaths who just want to crush the workers.

There's a difference between complaining about undue influence within parties (I, for instance, complain about unions' grip over Labour), but to actually try and cast them as malicious. I honestly never see this coming from Conservatives, at least in the UK.

I'm inclined to think it stems from identity politics, and this quest for social justice they seem so enamoured with. Anybody who doesn't agree is obviously evil, and anybody who pursues policies who go against your intuition are oppressors of the poor and minorities and whoever the fuck else you want to cast in there with them.

The worst I called Ed Miliband during the election was incompetent. One instance where I accused him of being sly was when he refused to call his house a mansion, despite the fact that it would fall under the "mansion tax". But I don't cast him as malicious or evil or engaged in some actively immoral practices.

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NASA
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NASA scientists studying the origin of life have reproduced uracil, cytosine, and thymine, three key components of our hereditary material, in the laboratory.  They discovered that an ice sample containing pyrimidine exposed to ultraviolet radiation under space-like conditions produces these essential ingredients of life.

Pyrimidine is a ring-shaped molecule made up of carbon and nitrogen and is the central structure for uracil, cytosine, and thymine, which are all three part of a genetic code found in ribonucleic (RNA) and deoxyribonucleic acids (DNA). RNA and DNA are central to protein synthesis, but also have many other roles.

"We have demonstrated for the first time that we can make uracil, cytosine, and thymine, all three components of RNA and DNA, non-biologically in a laboratory under conditions found in space," said Michel Nuevo, research scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California.  "We are showing that these laboratory processes, which simulate conditions in outer space, can make several fundamental building blocks used by living organisms on Earth."

An ice sample is deposited on a cold (approximately –440 degrees Fahrenheit) substrate in a chamber, where it is irradiated with high-energy ultraviolet (UV) photons from a hydrogen lamp.  The bombarding photons break chemical bonds in the ices and break down the ice's molecules into fragments that then recombine to form new compounds, such as uracil, cytosine, and thymine.

NASA Ames scientists have been simulating the environments found in interstellar space and the outer Solar System for years.  During this time, they have studied a class of carbon-rich compounds, called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), that have been identified in meteorites, and which are the most common carbon-rich compound observed in the universe.  PAHs typically are structures based on several six-carbon rings that resemble fused hexagons, or a piece of chicken wire.

The molecule pyrimidine is found in meteorites, although scientists still do not know its origin.  It may be similar to the carbon-rich PAHs, in that it may be produced in the final outbursts of dying, giant red stars, or formed in dense clouds of interstellar gas and dust.

"Molecules like pyrimidine have nitrogen atoms in their ring structures, which makes them somewhat wimpy.  As a less stable molecule, it is more susceptible to destruction by radiation, compared to its counterparts that don't have nitrogen," said Scott Sandford, a space science researcher at Ames.  "We wanted to test whether pyrimidine can survive in space, and whether it can undergo reactions that turn it into more complicated organic species, such as the nucleobases uracil, cytosine, and thymine."

In theory, the researchers thought that if molecules of pyrimidine could survive long enough to migrate into interstellar dust clouds, they might be able to shield themselves from destructive radiation.  Once in the clouds, most molecules freeze onto dust grains (much like moisture in your breath condenses on a cold window during winter).

These clouds are dense enough to screen out much of the surrounding outside radiation of space, thereby providing some protection to the molecules inside the clouds.

Scientists tested their hypotheses in the Ames Astrochemistry Laboratory.  During their experiment, they exposed the ice sample containing pyrimidine to ultraviolet radiation under space-like conditions, including a very high vacuum, extremely low temperatures (–440 degrees Fahrenheit), and harsh radiation.

They found that when pyrimidine is frozen in ice mostly consisting of water, but also ammonia, methanol, or methane, it is much less vulnerable to destruction by radiation than it would be if it were in the gas phase in open space.  Instead of being destroyed, many of the molecules took on new forms, such as the RNA/DNA components uracil, cytosine, and thymine, which are found in the genetic make-up of all living organisms on Earth.

"We are trying to address the mechanisms in space that are forming these molecules.  Considering what we produced in the laboratory, the chemistry of ice exposed to ultraviolet radiation may be an important linking step between what goes on in space and what fell to Earth early in its development," said Christopher Materese, another researcher at NASA Ames who has been working on these experiments.

"Nobody really understands how life got started on Earth. Our experiments suggest that once the Earth formed, many of the building blocks of life were likely present from the beginning.  Since we are simulating universal astrophysical conditions, the same is likely wherever planets are formed," says Sandford.

Additional team members who helped perform some of the research are Jason Dworkin, Jamie Elsila, and Stefanie Milam, three NASA scientists at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

The research was funded by the NASA Astrobiology Institute (NAI) and the NASA Origins of Solar Systems Program.  The NAI is a virtual, distributed organization of competitively-selected teams that integrates and funds astrobiology research and training programs in concert with the national and international science communities.

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Looking to guy my uncle a gift. I'm not looking for anything dense or theologically heavy, just a book that outlines the history and beliefs of the different branches.


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Serious / Re: What's your opinion on sales tax for used items?
« on: May 15, 2015, 07:16:56 AM »
The fact that you're buying something used doesn't suddenly mean the consumption is irrelevant. The point is not to siphon money away from the producer, the point is to line government coffers as consumption occurs.

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Serious / Re: We can all agree that Ricky Gervais is a cunt, right?
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:53:18 AM »
I condone the killing of these animals just the same.
hue

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Serious / Re: We can all agree that Ricky Gervais is a cunt, right?
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:35:36 AM »
And yeah, Giraffes are endangered FYI.
According to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, giraffes are "least-concern", meaning they're not even near-threatened, let alone endangered.
That doesn't change the fact that many sub-species are endangered, and numerous local populations have been extirpated.

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Serious / These fucking feminists are creeping into government
« on: May 15, 2015, 03:31:19 AM »
Meet the Feminist Initiative, a hard-left radical feminist party that now has a seat in the European Parliament and 47 municipal council seats, despite the fact that they want men to go on 'retraining' courses to change their consumption patterns.

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We challenge the image of Sweden and Europe as the paradise of gender equality. This is a false image that diminishes the existing problems and stands in the way of genuine change. It is an image that is used by nationalists wanting to portray women’s oppression as a foreign problem that originates in other parts of the world. Women’s rights are thus hijacked in racist rhetoric that aims to close borders.
Look at this narcissistic bollocks! Everything has to originate with them; it all emanates from their personal plight.

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Men’s violence against women is restricting women’s freedom of action in the home as well as in the public sphere. In order to eliminate violence we need a feminist analysis of all policy areas coupled with powerful measures within the EU. Women have lower salaries and are more likely to be in insecure employment. The labor market needs to be made safe and free from discrimination.
What the fuck? What the Jesus tittyfucker is "feminist analysis"? It saddens me to see how far the intelligentsia and academia have fallen. No consideration to the choices women make, just parity, parity, parity.

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Men’s violence against women is Europe’s greatest security problem.



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Serious / Re: Is socialism solid in theory? No, I don't think so
« on: May 15, 2015, 02:55:49 AM »
I'm not really familiar with how much "cartel" businesses here in the US are punished/regulated by the Government
Probably not enough.

Significant fines are probably the best way too go.

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Serious / Re: Is socialism solid in theory? No, I don't think so
« on: May 15, 2015, 02:42:09 AM »
Or those two competitors could make a secret agreement for both of them to lower wages jointly. It's not unheard of where stuff like that happens. It's a win-win agreement in their eyes: they both get more money in their pockets, and they don't have to worry about competition from the other party. So it's not unreasonable to assume that such a thing isn't beyond them.
Oh yeah, that happens. "Cartels", they're called and I think there were a couple knocking around in Silicon Valley not too long ago to stop the firms from stealing each other's engineers.

But, yeah, being pro-free market isn't the same as being pro-business. I want a relatively free market so all of the pricing mechanisms and exchanges of goods, services and information are as efficient and beneficial as possible. There certainly are businesses who try and play the system, such as through cartelisation, and the government should spare none of its wrath in punishing these businesses.

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