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Serious / Re: Those still living. . . Shall envy the dead
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:27:15 AM »
Will it though? What about resource costs, especially diminishing ones. Plus who's to say robots don't develop sentience and take to the idea of currency at that point.
There's a big debate on whether or not technological unemployment is actually a thing, and I lean towards it being so.

But a couple of points:
1) What about resource costs? I don't know what you mean.
2) Autonomous machines for use in the labour market are not going to spontaneously develop sentience; they simply won't have the complexity necessary to become AGIs.
3) Why would they take to currency when they've essentially assured post-scarcity? It wouldn't make any sense, what with production costs so low. Hell, even if such robots didn't abolish scarcity there's a potential for them to operate on purely neoclassical algorithms and allocate resources accordingly.

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The Flood / Please help this transfinancial man on Go Fund Me
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:02:25 AM »


He needs our help.

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The Flood / Re: Are any of you actually racist?
« on: June 18, 2015, 10:09:30 PM »
Not really.

Although I will admit to having something of a prejudice against East Asian people who don't integrate.

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The Flood / Re: Cheat, I have a question
« on: June 18, 2015, 09:38:43 PM »
I would totally do this. I don't even have to think about it.

EDIT: And for all those millionaires out there, I am open to making this hypothetical a reality. :P

O_o
Hell, wouldn't you?

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The Flood / Re: what's your favorite type of ice in drinks?
« on: June 18, 2015, 09:38:01 PM »
Cubed.
When'd this nigger get back?

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YouTube


For you non-German speakers:

"Thanks for twelve "beautiful" years, Laura. You have the half you deserve".

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The Flood / Cheat, I have a question
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:04:02 PM »
Would you accept $100,000 to sign a contract stating you will nuke Sep7agon, and never make another forum ever again?

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lol, look at this bitch.

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:43:44 PM »
Prima facie means 'at face value' so to say 'at prima facie' would be to say 'at at face value', which is redundant.
Whoops >.>

I was going to write "at face value" first, so I didn't realise the error.

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The Flood / Re: describe a user with a GIF
« on: June 18, 2015, 06:15:17 PM »
Verbatim.


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The Flood / We have broken the chains of Jewish thought
« on: June 18, 2015, 05:25:54 PM »
In Metaline Falls, we know not the meaning of the word “mine,” it is “ours,” — our race, the totality of our people. Ten hearts, one beat. One hundred hearts, one beat. Ten thousand hearts, one beat. We are born to fight and to die and to continue the flow – the flow of our people. Onward we will go, onward to the stars high above the mud, the mud of yellow, black, and brown.

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You assume that tranny pussy and cisgen pussy are substitute goods
In what economy is cisgen pussy actually considered a superior good by the marginal consumer? Come on, man, be real.
That's exactly what a Keynesian would ask.
Stop oppressing me!

Bernanke bad touched my Bitcoin!


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You're assuming that any sane consumer would be desperate enough to bang a trap, though.
I don't need the average consumer to bang a trap, though, I only need the marginal consumer to be willing to.

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You assume that tranny pussy and cisgen pussy are substitute goods
In what economy is cisgen pussy actually considered a superior good by the marginal consumer? Come on, man, be real.

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Trannies = "women" who used to be men. So you'd see a fake vagina down there, not a dick.
is that an american thing?

that's not how we use the word tranny here

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Trannies should have to tell people they're trannies before they have sex.
What? Why?

Like. . . What?

Even if they're a Trap, you'll be able to tell what sex they are by the nice Cock and Balls you might find when they remove their underwear.

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but meta there's already an abundance of boypussy in circulation?
get out of here with that queer phagg0t shit

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simple economics

increase the supply of pussy

value of pussy goes down

easier to get pussy

what a glorious result. gotta get dat PUSSEH

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon is indeed a community
« on: June 18, 2015, 04:55:45 PM »
We stand for transphobia, homophobia, niggerphobia, patriarchy and worship the Mighty Maymay.

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 04:54:27 PM »
Come down to Lodon man we can fuck the city up. I'll pay for your hotel room real talk.
You're still in London?

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 04:48:58 PM »
I'm too high for this
m8 when you gonna share some of that DANK KUSH

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:54:50 PM »
Soooo either that's the wrong question or they both are the ICB thing >_>
They are both independent central banks.

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:51:03 PM »
translation for econotards?
Countries with an independent central bank (and thus control over monetary policy) have a fiscal multiplier of roughly zero, meaning austerity or stimulus on the tax/spending side of things can be completely offset.
And is that like the Federal Reserve or like the Bank of England? <.<
Yes.

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Serious / Re: Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:47:24 PM »
translation for econotards?
Countries with an independent central bank (and thus control over monetary policy) have a fiscal multiplier of roughly zero, meaning austerity or stimulus on the tax/spending side of things can be completely offset.

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Serious / Those still living. . . Shall envy the dead
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:34:27 PM »


Grexit is nigh.

Withdrawals have risen rapidly, and the ECB has said it isn't sure whether or not Greek banks will be open on Monday.

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Serious / Why I don't mind the Conservatives' austerity
« on: June 18, 2015, 03:11:18 PM »
Mark Sadowski has done a lot of empirical work on the impacts of fiscal austerity in the past couple of years. Most of you will probably know I tend to be pro-austerity (although David Romer makes an interesting case for the use of fiscal tools, and I'm open to things like counter-cyclical social security taxe rates, as was proposed by the NZ Labor Party). Of course, there is a debate to be had on whether or not monetary policy becomes ineffectual at the zero-lower bound.

Personally, I don't think so. I think the Wicksellian view of monetary policy is a flawed one. However, I want to look at some data today. The two competing ideas I want to look at today are the Keynesian idea (fiscal austerity is contractionary at the lower bound) and the Monetarist idea (fiscal policy can be offset by monetary policy, even at the lower bound). Sadowski has done some nGDP regressions on the correlation between fiscal austerity and growth, which seem to support Keynesian expectations at prima facie as there is a clear negative correlation:


Then Sadowski isolates the Eurozone countries, which lack an independent central bank and the regression is consistent with both ideas.


Finally, Sadowski does a regression for countries with independent central banks and we have a regression which supports the Monetarist line of thinking:



And Sadowski's findings are, of course, in line with certain case studies such as the Sequester in the US in 2013 wherein growth outpaced predictions assuming no austerity thanks to Fed easing. And I have a couple of graphs here drawn from IMF data which supports Sadowski's findings above:


Takeaway: Euro: less government spending correlated with less growth
Non-Euro: Fiscal multiplier is an observed zero.

Euro p = 0.04 y=0.8315 - 1.3306*x
Non-euro p = 0.8 y= 2.3166 + 0.1914 *x

Disclaimers:

(I) Average Real GDP per Capita is the y-axis. Average changes in Structural budget is the x-axis. What is a structural budget? It's the percent of potential GDP a country is deficit spending (or building up a surplus). I took the average of changes to account for austerity measures [otherwise many countries would seem to be deficit spending, like Greece, when they made large reductions in their budget] Positive changes mean austerity; negative changes mean more deficit spending

(II) Data excludes Estonia, Cyprus, and Sao Paulo as either one or the other lacked data for Real GDP per capita growth or balanced budget spending.

(III) AFAIK all the other countries have indep. Central Banks. However, Hong Kong and Switzerland at that time had pegs; there's a regression later on down that moves them to the other side to see the affect.

(IV) Why 2007-2013? I would like to include as much as the business cycle as feasible, 2007 touches on periods when the boom is ending, and 2013 takes us up to theoretical areas for recovery (regression for 2010-2013 later on down)

(V) This is a reg x y, and not a replacement for any serious studies on fiscal multipliers. For that see this IMF paper:
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2011/wp1152.pdf
and Ramey (2011)
http://econweb.ucsd.edu/~vramey/research/JEL_Fiscal_14June2011.pdf

Data Source: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2013/01/weodata/index.aspx (To be exact, I selected "Gross domestic product based on purchasing-power-parity (PPP) per capita GDP" and "General government structural balance Percent of potential GDP")


Same as above but without Greece. p = 0.81; y=0.8819 + 0.1973*x (Euro)

Takeaways: Fiscal multiplier closer to zero, but this is odd. Are the effects of ECB's monetary policy disproportionally bad for Greece? Anything to do with structural account surpluses/deficits? (Export/import ratios)


And here's a graph moving Hong Kong and Switzerland to the non-independent side on account of their monetary pegs at the time, although whether or not we ought to do this is open for debate.

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Serious / Re: I feel so oppressed
« on: June 18, 2015, 02:32:55 PM »
I don't know if I'm missing a reference here
Spoiler
The reference is Austrian economics.


















And Ron Paul, I guess.

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Serious / I feel so oppressed
« on: June 18, 2015, 02:23:27 PM »
So, I was wearing my "Free People, Read Mises" T-shirt at my Intro Micro class when the Keynesian teaching at the front of the lecture hall was like, "That shirt isn't science." I couldn't believe it.

"Actually," I explained, "Praxeology was the only epistemologically sound study of human behavior, not mainstream economics."

I considered walking out then and there but was really hungry for debate. So, I handed the praxgirl sitting next to me my copy of Man, Economy, and State, but--and I guess I shouldn't be surprised, considering the level of education in this country--she refused to accept it.

"It all follows logically from undeniably true axioms of human action!" I said. "You cannot refuse it! It is my right to prax it!"

She wouldn't budge, claiming that there was no place in academia for extreme apriorism. (For fuck's sake.)
"Alright," I said, handing her a copy of Human Action. I was half expecting her to raise a stink about that, but she didn't. I guess there's still some hope.

"No need to be so statist," I said.

She flipped.

"Statist," I said, "not statistics. Don't you know there is no difference?"

Anyways, as I left, I offered my bar of gold to the professor to make up for my interruptions, and the old Keynesian bitch shrieked: "Goldbug! Oh my god, he's a conspiracy theorist!"

I couldn't believe what I was hearing; I am not a goldbug; I also like Bitcoin.

"Actually," I calmly and coolly explained, "before the gold standard was destroyed by the Keynesians, it was the reason for America's prosperity before the end of Bretton Woods, and before that, it brought decades of beneficial deflation. But I guess they don't teach you that in grad school anymore, do they?" Seriously, why should the decades after 1973 overrule almost two hundred years' worth of American history?

Anyways, as I left, an older gentleman came up to me, and placed his hand on my arm. "Thank you," he said. "I fought the Keynesians as FDR's advisor during the Great Depression, and I'll be damned if we let the statists win."

"No," I replied, "thank you for your service." (Although, I sort of suspected that the Federal Reserve had placed him there for propaganda purposes.) I got into my car and read Mises Institute blog posts with a feeling of accomplishment.

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Serious / Re: Your most controversial opinions
« on: June 18, 2015, 02:08:25 PM »
- capitalism is pretty much evil and doesn't work
- there is no way to prove anything
- we should design our own apocalypse and start all over again in a way where we wouldn't fuck up
- western civilization is the most barbaric and the source of most of the worlds problems
All of these are laughable.

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The Flood / Re: Would you date a disabled person?
« on: June 18, 2015, 01:41:19 PM »
Why the fuck does that matter? -_-
Because it could make the relationship more difficult.

OT: Probably not.

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