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4711
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:32:38 PM »
We have very little evidence as to how other animals feel and percieve things
I'm not entirely sure this is correct.
4712
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:28:31 PM »
it's my exact definition of sentience, though And you're yet to demonstrate why artificial intelligences would be excluded from the ability to perceive, feel or be self-aware. i'm of course referring to all sentient life See above.
4713
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:27:11 PM »
Well this is one of the beautiful things about capitalism, really.
It makes psychopathy productive.
4714
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:24:39 PM »
Musk is involved in a highly-competitive sector on the forefront of technology.
If he isn't ruthless, he dies.
4715
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:20:13 PM »
because that would contradict you, and help my definition instead No, it wouldn't. no one's strictly talking about human experience That seemed to be what Pendulate was implying when you used his consideration to demonstrate your point.
4716
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:14:59 PM »
present me with a better one
Well we could just use the actual definition, which is the ability to experience subjectively. Which doesn't at all require any similarity to human experience besides some aspect of subjectivity and, presumably, self-awareness.
4717
« on: June 21, 2015, 04:05:34 PM »
If you think an AI needs to think and feel in the same ways as we do in order to be deemed sentient, then no, we probably won't ever have sentient AI. well, there you go [/quote] That's a poor definition of sentience, though.
4718
« on: June 21, 2015, 03:31:43 PM »
don't be pedantic, you obviously know what i mean
It's a point worth making, though. You're implying we have control over whether or not a certain intelligence--regardless of neural/computational complexity--develops sentience.
4719
« on: June 21, 2015, 03:18:33 PM »
It has happened numerous times.
Unless you think that the sentience of humans (and a hell of a lot of animal species) arises from something other than neural complexity? nothing we could ever feasibly imitate
There's no basis for that assertion, though.
4720
« on: June 21, 2015, 03:16:15 PM »
i just don't see that happening, ever
It has happened numerous times. Unless you think that the sentience of humans (and a hell of a lot of animal species) arises from something other than neural complexity?
4721
« on: June 21, 2015, 02:59:02 PM »
well, you can't make a ball bounce higher than it falls
Of course you can, with self-recursive improvement.
this also requires no sentience
It's not a case of "giving" sentience to an AGI; presumably sentience arrives when some point of computational complexity is reached.
4722
« on: June 21, 2015, 02:54:38 PM »
well, you can't make a ball bounce higher than it falls
Of course you can, with self-recursive improvement.
4723
« on: June 21, 2015, 02:13:29 PM »
we already have information--why do we need to give information a brain
So it can be processed, of course. Humanity's problems stem from a deficit in collating and processing information.
4724
« on: June 21, 2015, 01:59:48 PM »
but there would be no purpose whatsoever in even giving AI sentience You mean apart from creating the single most intelligent agent we're likely to ever witness?
4725
« on: June 21, 2015, 01:18:43 PM »
If it's sentient, then it's deserves moral consideration.
4726
« on: June 21, 2015, 11:36:46 AM »
The truth of the matter is that Democrats and Republicans aren't really that far apart
What? Partisanship has been growing since the 1950s-60s. The parties are more different now than they have been since the Civil War. The fact that presidents tend to adhere to a "mainstream" (even though there are absolutely vital variations between presidents) is probably more a function of having to deal with the federal bureaucracy. It's not that Obama's basically a Republican, it's that both Democratic and Republican presidents cannot just pull a lever and move the bureaucratic cogs.
4727
« on: June 20, 2015, 08:17:06 PM »
But i heard one of the biggest argument is that other taxi companies cannot compete.
Good. That's a sign that Uber is providing a better service.
4728
« on: June 20, 2015, 01:33:38 PM »
More taxes for the world government
 ayyy lmao
4729
« on: June 20, 2015, 01:13:02 PM »
To be honest this is a pretty good example of why we ought to cut back on labour market regulation. Uber drivers are employees any way you look at it, but it's quite clear that the current arrangement (where they're kind of treated as contractors) is preferable for both the company and the "employees", and a good business model.
Just fucking leave them be, they're providing a good service as they are.
4730
« on: June 20, 2015, 12:57:00 PM »
Nazis, ladies and gentlemen.
4731
« on: June 20, 2015, 12:52:23 PM »
Uber drivers are pretty much unequivocally employees. See Uber v. Berwick.1) The Driver could not perform the work without Uber's permission as an intermediary b/t the Driver & Customer. 2) The Driver has no investment in the business beyond using a car for business purposes [as pizza delivery employees and others do, and are reimbursed by their employer] and a deposit for an iPhone [which is customary for company property that is taken off premises, and occurs in other industries such as uniforms for fast food employees]. 3) There is no managerial skills that affect profit or loss. Uber is the only party exercising this control. 4) The Driver has no control over pricing and is discouraged from being tipped. Uber sets prices as an employer would. 5) Uber effectively "hires" drivers via its vetting process, background checks, and other QA mechanisms to decide which drivers should be allowed to use the platform. It also "fires" drivers who fail to meet Uber's QA standards. 6) The Driver cannot subcontract in any meaningful way. This shouldn't be surprising that even 2-3 of these things would be enough to trigger "employee status". Particularly price setting, choice of equipment, and choice of subcontractor are all 100% required to be classified as a contractor. A lack of any of these things immediately flips you to an employee. A lack of all 3 in this situation pretty much makes it a no brainer.
4732
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:20:24 PM »
I like Trump and I would vote for him if I were an American citizen.
The dude thinks vaccines cause autism.
And yet somehow managed to get from poor to millionaire 4 times in his life...
Right, and that qualifies him to run a country.
4733
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:07:09 PM »
I like Trump and I would vote for him if I were an American citizen.
The dude thinks vaccines cause autism.
4734
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:06:25 PM »
It's immensely slow with almost no action, and that includes the witty dialog between certain characters. Cersei's my favorite, and I really love how bitchy she is to Margaery. Sam shouldn't even be in the book, and Arya's scenes are basically the same thing repeated over and over. I totally get that he's solidifying the major characters and setting up the narrative for drastic change to come. I really get it. But his 1-3 are very dynamic and suspenseful; I feel none of that here.
I get what you mean. It doesn't have the pace that the other books, especially ASOS, had. If he'd split it chronologically instead of based on character location it'd probably be better. I'm enjoying it more from a lore perspective I suppose, with the knowledge that I'll be reading ADWD like immediately after I finish. What you got against Sam? (Although I must admit to finding him quite boring; he's pretty much just a vehicle for the plot).
4735
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:02:00 PM »
damn
now i want some scrambled eggs
4736
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:55:29 PM »
Maybe it's because I haven't had much time to read and it's very painful a couple chapters at a time.
What is it you don't like about the book specifically? Just the fact that it's slow-going? Have you enjoyed any of the story arcs? I'm liking Cersei's and Jaime's at the moment. Although the amount of characters makes it rather broken-up.
4737
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:48:51 PM »
80% through book 4. I would almost recommend skipping it and reading the Wikipedia summary. Or skip the first half or something. It's such a shitty book, I can't even comprehend how GRRM pulled it off after such a good start in 1-3.
Really? I'm about halfway through AFFC. I'm enjoying it thus far. Although the Brienne storyline and the shit in Dorne feel a bit slow. That said, though, I'm looking forward to ADWD much more for Jon and Davos's storylines.
4738
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:39:58 PM »
I don't even take notes.
Neither do I, really. Nor do I normally revise. I just started to get anxious that I'd fuck it up, because the history exam was the biggest one and I had another one afterwards. So I figured better safe than sorry.
4739
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:36:45 PM »
8008135
4740
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:36:02 PM »
Because I pulled a sicky half-way through a shift a couple of weeks ago because I had two exams the day after. So they're fucking me for the absence.
Worth it.
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