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The Flood / Re: "Prank" channel tier list
« on: June 26, 2015, 07:39:31 PM »
Roman Atwood?

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Serious / Re: Well, we're screwed.
« on: June 26, 2015, 04:30:24 PM »
Keep drinking the kool aid, man
Yes, professional consensus must be wrong and a form of propaganda simply because it's professional consensus.

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Serious / Re: Well, we're screwed.
« on: June 26, 2015, 04:20:45 PM »
What a load of bollocks.

TPP and TTIP are fine. Enough with the scaremongering.

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Serious / Is Greece still insane? Yes, yes they are.
« on: June 26, 2015, 03:20:32 PM »
Fucking hell.

Greece's leaked counter-proposal to creditors includes terms about re-imposing large-scale corporation tax and pension contributions. Obviously, the creditors aren't happy because of the chance this could plunge Greece even deeper into its depression and demanded that such terms be removed. Greece has rejected the offer, despite the pleading of Angela Merkel, which would've repurposed funds from bank recapitalisation to general government expenses.

Unless Greece and the creditors can come to an arrangement, Greece will likely suffer a run on the banks followed by capital controls and then default. Meanwhile, Eurozone officials have been drawing up contingency plans to ringfence Greece and protect the rest of the EZ should an arrangement not be made.

The Greek government is showing no signs of letting up on its corporation tax/pension contributions plans. Economic breakdown and social unrest are expected.


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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 26, 2015, 03:06:23 PM »
What is your opinion on the inconsistencies in economics?

I'm no expert myself, but financial / tax / economic law has been a big part of my education. One of the few things that has always struck me is how inconsistent it is. By that I am refering to the many different schools and economists disagreeing on pretty fundamental things. There are dozens of extremely intelligent and highly educated people with a very good understanding of economics coming to completely opposite conclusions.

One of the cases where this is very apparent is how people criticise institutions (IMF, ECB...) for making terrible choices. I am not defending these institutions one bit, but they are some of the most renowned economic facilities in the world. The people working there are among the best in their field, having spent decades of their life getting an excellent education and a ton of practical experience, yet I've seen you criticise these people who combined have more experience with and insight in economics than we could ever dream of having. Yet all of this aside, I have seen people criticising them and going as far as calling these institutions absolutely moronic for making a certain choice.

I know I'm doing a terrible job at putting this into words, but I hope my point is still somewhat clear.
The problem isn't with the economics, per se, it's how it translates into policy. Economics is an incredibly complex subject, of course, and most economists are probably wrong about something; the more I learn, myself, the more I find myself drifting to the "centre" of the economic debate.

I don't want to denigrate the existing consensus on a number of issues in economics, and we shouldn't forget just how much most economists agree on--you can pick up an intro textbook from Cowen and one from Krugman and they'd say pretty much exactly the same thing, despite the fact one is neoclassical and one is essentially Keynesian. However, it's still a developing subject. There are innumerable variables to track, which can lead otherwise intelligent people like John Taylor to make claims like money was too easy in 2008, and he says this because he's looking at interest rates. There are myriad reasons why you shouldn't look at interest rates to judge monetary policy, yet economists often do because various models like the IS-LM lead towards such a bias. Using interest rates can be useful, because then you're quicker to realise whether or not you've entered a liquidity trap. . . That is, if you think liquidity traps matter.

And that's what disagreements usually come down to: trying to interpret the wealth of empirical data resulting in innumerable variables. But like I say, that doesn't mean economists don't make progress; we know where Keynes went wrong, we know where Friedman went wrong, we know where most economists have historically gone wrong.

I also think the extent to which there are "schools" in economics is exaggerated greatly. Certain pop "economists" like Ha-Joon Chang like to politicise the field and say economics is split and divided and they throw in all these neat little categories, despite the fact you could make a model with neoclassical, Keynesian, monetarist and Schumpeterian elements if you so desired. It also depends on the time-horizon you adopt; I, personally, think the business cycle in the short-term corresponds fairly well with some kind of Keynesian model, whereas the medium term is dominated by the real business cycle and then when you reach long-term considerations you enter the world of Solow. There are disagreements about whether or not this is the case, but the disagreements probably aren't as paradigm-breaking as you'd imagine.

When it comes to specific institutions like the ECB, then there's a much simpler explanation. There's a certain political 'ethos' that comes with being a central bank; just look at the pressure on the Fed at the moment from Republicans, despite the fact that the Fed has conducted counter-cyclical monetary policy practically by the book. The problem with the ECB specifically is that the German Bundesbank wields significant influence; not only are there historical issues around inflation in Germany, but there are also "ideological" ones as the Bundesbank is primarily what you might call "Orthodox Monetarist". I can't really tell you why this is the case, but the kind of fear this instils of inflation has been the reason why the ECB has been so loathe to conduct desperately-needed measures like QE.

A good example of this ethos is the way Ben Bernanke basically admitted after leaving the Fed that he could've done more. But while being chair he simply couldn't say things like that; political pressure stopped him from doing what he could've done, and stopped him from speaking out against it.

Hopefully that's coherent enough for you; if you have any other specific examples I'll try to explain them as best I can.

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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 26, 2015, 02:22:51 PM »
Why you be hatin on the Austrian school m8?
Because it's fucking shit.


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The Flood / Re: Worst thing you've ever done?
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:10:24 PM »
I raped my dog.

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The Flood / Re: Worst thing you've ever done?
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:07:16 PM »
Whenever it was that I got the news from my doctors that I had a potentially short lifespan of three months or so without treatment for the tumor in my head, I kept really quiet about it for a few weeks.

I made a list of people I knew in school. I wasn't all sunshine and bunnies in school either. I was part of that heirarchy of kids picking on kids. Anyway. To the people I gave a hard time to in school, I found most of them and apologized to them.

But, there was one person I went to not to apologize to. A real shit person when I was younger and a real shit person long after as well.

I drove out to his place and he came out to see who'd pulled up. I struck up conversation with him and when he got close enough to me I reached out, grabbed the side of his head and smashed it into my door as hard as I could.

I didn't let him get back up and I kicked the shit out of him while he was down. After that I calmly explained to him why and I told him if he called the police on me that he'd see me again.

The guy was an asshole. Even still. I regret that a lot. I can see and remember the look on his face. Asshole, or no, I did something shitty to him.

I was older at this point and twice his size so he didn't stand a chance.

I haven't seen him since and I never received a knock on my door from the police. But I regret what I did. And I would have done things differently if it were me as I am now.
Wow.

Wouldn't have expected that from you.

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The Flood / Re: Worst thing you've ever done?
« on: June 26, 2015, 01:06:14 PM »
like, he thought I was his friend
Jesus, even I feel bad for him.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:45:56 AM »
let's leave being the edgy contrarian to those of us with experience in that field, huh, meta ;)
Well, this is what I get for taking somebody else's word on a forum.

Although not caring about gay marriage in the first place is pretty contrarian.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:38:53 AM »
that's exactly what they did. they said the 14th amendment doesn't support banning gay marriage.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh.

Yeah, ignore me, I'm an idiot.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:34:32 AM »
lol
Don't get me wrong; it's good news for the LGBT community. I'm just not a fan of how the victory was achieved.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:33:48 AM »
so they're gonna make it that way, you donut
The job of SCOTUS is to interpret the constitution, not add bits in.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:29:25 AM »
Actually, no, I do give a fuck insofar as the Supreme Court is over-stepping in boundaries here. I'm fairly certain there is no "constitutional right to marriage".
says the 18 y/o fat british kid
says the NA y/o fat yank faggot

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:26:18 AM »
Actually, no, I do give a fuck insofar as the Supreme Court is over-stepping in boundaries here. I'm fairly certain there is no "constitutional right to marriage".

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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:20:40 AM »
While I'm thinking about it, I should also say that the minimum wage is a pretty woeful anti-poverty strategy. A lot of MW earners are teens in relatively affluent households, and it obviously discriminates in favour of people who can actually get a job. The benefit of a basic income/wage subsidies is that it specifically targets the people who need assistance.

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Serious / Re: US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
« on: June 26, 2015, 09:53:44 AM »
I don't care.

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The Flood / Why? Why would you do this to me?
« on: June 25, 2015, 11:30:25 PM »

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1pm Eastern Time. And questions about Monsanto's business practices are allowed.

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The Flood / Re: Anybody remember that bald, fat, narcissistic fuck?
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:41:09 PM »
Yeah I remember your father well after I tapped his fat ass LMAO
Well I don't know my father.

So you'd presumably be more aware about the details of his ass than I.

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"Cockpriests".

I'm stealing that.

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The Flood / Anybody remember that bald, fat, narcissistic fuck?
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:37:28 PM »
Crouton, or something?

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The Flood / Re: WHERE IS LOAF
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:35:01 PM »
bungle
yeah i know





































































































































































IT'S DUSTIN.SHIT

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The Flood / Re: WHERE IS LOAF
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:32:50 PM »
Fuck off, Dustin.

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Fuck off, Dustin.

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The Flood / Re: UN Game: Elder Scrolls Edition.
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:24:24 PM »
Morrowind wishes to open up a trade route with the Akaviri for Kwama eggs for military weapons/strategy.

Kwama eggs can be used in the field to eliminate soldiers' fatigue and restore their stamina.

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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 25, 2015, 10:02:06 PM »
it'll involve distribution of wealth

and the word "ought"
Sounds like you're asking me what I think the distribution of wealth ought to be. I'm going to talk about the distribution of income/consumption, however, simply because it's easier.

Basically, the distribution of income earned from labour should broadly be what the market dictates it ought to be. When W=MPL, it's a productive system. That isn't to say the labour market is perfect; it's far from perfect, you need a whole different paradigm when you're talking about labour compared to pretty much any other microeconomic market. Since earned income at the bottom rungs of society can sometimes be inadequate to finance some basic level of consumption, and since there's usually a significant lag between people going from unemployment to employment (you really need some kind of supply/match model, instead of a supply/demand model, for the labour market), then the minimum wage ought to be abolished and anybody earning zero income should be given a guaranteed minimum income by the government.

Whereas people earning something below an appropriate benchmark would be given a subsidy of some level of the difference between their wage and the benchmark; essentially a wage "top up".

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Serious / Re: If education was free, what would you study?
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:51:14 PM »
tfw your passion isn't in demand
tfw your passion allows you to tank an economy

or maybe causing depressions is my passion, and economics is just a means to an end

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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:50:10 PM »
Given current projections of technology and wealth, will my hypothetical grandchildren see the ushering in of a post-scarcity society?
I highly, highly doubt it.

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Serious / Re: Economics AMA
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:49:46 PM »
from an economic perspecive, what is the definition of ethics in your own words
I'm not entirely sure how to define ethics from an "economic perspective".

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