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4441
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:39:12 PM »
HE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE SO HE'S THE WORST
Challenger's probably pretty close to you politically, to be honest. (No, you aren't a socialist).
He just doesn't like you because you make pretty poor arguments.
I genuinely don't care what Challenger has to say about anything, whether he agrees with me or not.
And yet here you are, bitching about it like a five year old.
4442
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:35:58 PM »
HE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE SO HE'S THE WORST
Challenger's probably pretty close to you politically, to be honest. (No, you aren't a socialist). He just doesn't like you because you make pretty poor arguments.
4443
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:33:52 PM »
Mad Max is the embarrassment of humanity.
HE THINKS DIFFERENT THINGS THEREFOR HE'S THE WORST
You seem to not understand that being "different" doesn't mean "qualitatively equal".
4444
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:33:16 PM »
>implying only one way to run a country is the right way
Well, no I didn't. But given your routine lack of nuance I can see how you'd think of capitalism as "one way" and socialism as "another". Although I could see how a single nuanced way could empirically be the "best" way of running a country. But yeah, the evidence we have, both theoretical and empirical, is quite strongly against socialism as a workable economic structure. Hell, Sanders isn't even a socialist. All I see him saying is "I'll raise taxes on the rich and stop outsourcing jobs"; nothing about a labour-run economy. The guy's just a populist who's adopted an ill-fitting label.
4445
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:29:28 PM »
George Abraham Woodrow because he freed the slaves
fucking KIKE NIGGERS
4446
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:28:56 PM »
Because it is.
Didn't you just say I wouldn't catch you talking about things you don't know about? In that case, please demonstrate your understanding of economics to me. . . Because I'll wager I can demonstrate socialism is a bad idea to a higher degree than you can demonstrate it as a good idea.
4447
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:27:25 PM »
Except Ron Paul is a wacko nutjob who doesn't believe in evolution.
Eh, Bernie has his fair share of whacko positions. Although Ronnie probably takes the cake there. AFAIK, he's also been screaming about hyperinflation since as far back as the 80s. Rand Paul isn't much better either, and I have no idea how people can tolerate the guy. Both Pauls are fucking nuts.
4448
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:23:21 PM »
From a policy, not personality, perspective. I always find it really hard to pick a good president, probably because I'm such a cynic. But it's super easy to pick bad ones.
For me, it's a tie between FDR and Hoover.
4449
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:20:58 PM »
Well good luck, because you wont find me talking about things I don't know about.
You won't find me doing that, either. . . Information is the same, no matter what border you sit inside of. I'm not some atomistic data-processing machine sat in the middle of Britain, most of the political/economic literature I read is from American authors.
4450
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:16:40 PM »
And they're both economically illiterate morons. Brilliant.
4451
« on: July 06, 2015, 03:15:31 PM »
Not sure why you think you're so in tune with what America needs when you don't even live here.
Sweet. I'll be watching out for anything you say about Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Syria, China, Russia, the Ukraine or any other country for that matter. But I'm fairly sure even you know that the fact you aren't geographically located in a country doesn't put you at some kind of disadvantage, and instead you're just trying to defend your political candidate on some narrow, shallow and ill-thought-out basis.
4452
« on: July 06, 2015, 02:05:15 PM »
But as for actively discussing and going to rallies and stuff. Its just unwanted stress to people. John Doe works 9-5 and barely has time to eat dinner because he has to take his kid to baseball practice. Hes not home until 8 and then he has to fall asleep and do the same shit the next day. Why would he add unwanted stress to his already stressful life by caring so much about politics?
That's fine. If you've got a mortgage to pay, do that. I'm saying it's just not an excuse for being totally apathetic and uneducated. If you don't go to rallies, fine, whatever. I don't go to rallies. But at least keep yourself educated when you get the chance.
4453
« on: July 06, 2015, 01:37:38 PM »
This seen seems funnily appropriate, actually.
4454
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:59:14 PM »
Back to your subject, however, you are aware that it's always been like this, correct?
Sure. Doesn't make it right, though. I'm not asking everybody to become a moral philosopher.
4455
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:58:07 PM »
Though not compulsory, I believe we have a civic duty to delve somewhat into both philosophy and politics.
Exactly my point.
4456
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:54:28 PM »
I sympathize, too, with the philosophical philistines, as it were.
I would if I cared about the "unwelcoming" nature of the discourse. But, I don't, really. Like I say, I don't give a fuck if you feel uncomfortable about it--it's irrelevant, both to me personally and to the nature of human progress.
4457
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:52:01 PM »
The world hardly revolves around what you believe is the "right" thing to do.
No, it revolves around what is actually the "right" thing to do. I don't really know what choice has to do with it either; murderers choose to kill. . . I don't need to respect that, though. I think appreciating the hardships of those who paved the way for us, and contributing in our own small way by considering the important questions of human society and the course of our species rather solidly falls into that category. Fuck, thinking about morality is pretty much a priori a moral imperative.
4458
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:46:44 PM »
don't hate on people because they're not into what you're into
For some odd reason, it looks like you've completely missed the point of this thread. Bravo, that must've taken some effort.
4459
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:45:11 PM »
I think there is a good difference between researching who you're voting for, as opposed to getting into debates left and right and going to rallies.
People who died at Omaha got drafted too, so into it or not, they didn't really have a choice.
Um, okay? Any time you want make a relevant point, feel free.
4460
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:41:57 PM »
verb just ended luciana's pineapple
4461
« on: July 06, 2015, 12:40:28 PM »
And I mean fucking parasites, covertly riding the wave of the progress which came before them. "I don't want to think about morality, it's confusing", or "I don't like talking about politics, it makes me uncomfortable". Fuck you.
It's ridiculous. Who cares if it's uncomfortable? Who cares if you don't enjoy it? I sure as hell don't. Life isn't supposed to be your hedonistic paradise, where you can unplug from reality and just drift about ignorant in your little matrix. Nobody's asking that you become Socrates Anew, and die for your proclamations. Just engage. Do a bit of work, vote, think a little. The social, moral and political architects of humanity have died, been tortured and faced social ostracisation so that you can have your "comfortable" life.
Was Rosa Parks comfortable? MLK? Luther? Socrates? Nietzsche? The men who fought and died at Omaha? Fuck no, they weren't. It's pathetic. These people who don't care about freedom of expression, is there anybody worth listening to less than these fucks?
People need to start thinking for themselves, once in a while.
4462
« on: July 06, 2015, 11:57:01 AM »
4463
« on: July 06, 2015, 11:29:12 AM »
4464
« on: July 06, 2015, 10:54:15 AM »
why doesn't germany just invade greece and take the money back by force.
Because we don't live in 1350.
4465
« on: July 06, 2015, 10:50:13 AM »
I'm not following.
He'd be good for Labour in that they'd secure a Tory victory >.>
4466
« on: July 06, 2015, 10:47:13 AM »
he's like the perfect candidate for Labour.
Unless he wins in 2020.
4467
« on: July 06, 2015, 10:19:08 AM »
How interesting. Corbyn? Why would they choo- Oh, yeah, that's right. Trade unions are actors with their own interests as much as any corporation, not proles fighting the good fight.
4468
« on: July 06, 2015, 08:36:59 AM »
Good. Bernie is the best hope we have for this country.
How? I get that he fits with your priors, but the more I read about the more the guy just comes across as a straight-up populist. He's appointed a Post-Keynesian as an economic advisor, despite the fact he says this:And yes, those folks and large corporations will have to pay under a Sanders administration more in taxes so that we can use that revenue to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, create the jobs we need, make sure that every kid who has the ability is able to get a college education in America because public colleges and public universities will be tuition-free," he said. So he's obviously not listening to his advisor. And then he says shit like this: Asked about the type of people who would make up his cabinet, Sanders ticked off the names of three liberal economists: New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize-winner Joseph Stiglitz and former Bill Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich. So he obviously has no understanding of the people he'd like, despite the fact it'd take you like five minutes to discover that such a mix wouldn't work. The guy is a straight-up pop politician with no credibility.
4469
« on: July 06, 2015, 08:01:56 AM »
Clinton > Sanders.
And I hate Clinton.
4470
« on: July 06, 2015, 04:11:59 AM »
The stock market weaknesses probably represent underlying issues in the economy itself. If I had to hazard a guess, it'd be the excessive leverage built up following 2008.
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