The fact that Michael Gove is supporting Brexit is enough of a reason alone to make me vote remain.

Because after years of being told he sucks by special interest, public-sector employees your opinion of him is no doubt objective.

It seems the Brexit has spurred on other independence movements, including my native Kerry

then the basque, the catalonians, the flemish, the bavarians. . .

it all comes crumbling down

Good choice. When the EU army marches through the streets of Britain and your next monarch is a Turkish islamic migrant, Remainers will be spared while filthy Brexiteers like Meta will be round up and publicly executed.

i'm on the side of the OGs nigguh

I help my dad with 'freelance' home improvement jobs. Stuff like fitting windows and doors.

Apparently some company is conducting exit polls. Potentially hedge funds trying to get ahead of the currency markets.

Certain polling stations have been closed due to floods. My god people, what more of a sign could you need?

This is going to hurt the Remain vote more than anything. . .

Is the flooding in London?

I voted leave lads, do we riot if remain wins?

Of course.

Also, these leaflets are being given out at polling stations in Gibraltar.



I'm fairly confident that's illegal.

I'm heading up at 3.

Probably gonna say stay at this point.

YOU FUCKING IMMIGRANT LOVING SOVEREIGNTY HATING ISLAMIST SCUM

The die is cast.

Just watched the final debate on Channel 4. Go to r/ukpolitics and look at the discussion thread; everybody fucking hated it. It was awful.

Most recent polls are giving a surge to Remain, though.

His point about a loophole comes from an article in The Times that doesn't detail what the potential loophole is. Surprisingly poor journalism on The Times's part.

Some input from that guy I like, hbomberguy.

YouTube

He doesn't take actually take a stance, but it's just more food on the table.

I'm not defending the claims of the Leave campaign, because both campaigns have been run awfully, but there are a few things to pull the guy up on:

- The way he presents that headline about Brexit potentially costing 6pc of rGDP is misleading; it makes you think it will lead to a snap recession. Looking at the EIU's report, they make it clear that by 2020 (when the economy will have stabilised, according to the EIU) rGDP would be six percent below baseline trend. 6pc of output isn't going to just be wiped from the British economy. Unemployment will also peak at 6pc, which is 0.6pc above what it currently is now.

- Eh, he's kind of misrepresenting the "red tape" argument, not that the Leavers put it all that well to begin with. Problems with European regulation mainly come from labour law, and similarly the Union is also notoriously bad with its budget which was classed as unsound for a number of years and still hasn't brought unaccounted expenditures down to within an acceptable margin of the overall budget.

- There's a very misleading part where he's talking about how countries have to spend the same amount as a membership fees on tariffs while highlighting the fact that they still have to accept free movement of people. This is not true; countries in the free movement area are part of the Common Market, pay membership fees and do not have to pay tariffs.

- He's kind of making his case in a way that suggests trade is just going to dry up after we leave the Union. This is a fiction, especially with TTIP on the way. Not to mention, trade external to the EU has grown a lot faster than within-EU trade, to the point where exports from one EU country to another fell from 68pc to ~63pc over the past decade, and for the UK specifically the amount we export to the EU has declined from 55pc to 45pc. Trade statistics with the EU are also inflated due to the Antwerp-Rotterdam Effect, whereby British exports stop at (the eponymous Dutch) ports before moving on to other areas of the world.

- His point about them missing the Recession is kind of somewhat unfair. Recessions are policy mistakes; if you could see it coming, it wouldn't happen. Equally, the economists responsible for monetary policy and advising fiscal policy in both America and Europe fucked up, big-time. The British fucked up, too, but not as badly.

- The point about them being in the Bullingdon Club is a very cheap shot.

This don's funny though, I'll give him that.

As usual, posting it before I've watched it.

According to US sources.

WASHINGTON DC: Pakistan is continuing to sell nuclear materials to North Korea, even as its urging the international community to accept its membership to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), said highly placed US sources who track nuclear commerce.

These sources said the Pakistan Energy Commission (PAEC) has been continuing to supply restricted items like 'Monel' and 'Inconel' material to North Korea in violation of UN sanctions.

They added that that nuclear materials supplied to the PAEC by Chinese entities have also found their way to North Korea, and that the China Atomic Energy Authority (CAEA) recently received a written complaint that supplies of a Chinese company, Beijing Suntech Technology Co. Ltd, were being diverted to North Korea by the Pakistani authorities.

The Chinese government hushed up the matter as it could have consequences for Beijing's bid to support Pakistan at the NSG. But this information leaked out of North Korea and came to the knowledge Of Western governments who are members of the NSG.

In another alarming revelation, informed sources said Pakistan has been giving North Korea equipment which has a direct bearing on producing nuclear weapons. Sources said Beijing Suntech manufactures Vacuum Induction Melting (VIM) furnaces that find application in refining hard metals such as uranium and plutonium, which are used in making nuclear warhead cores. Pakistan is known to have procured these items from China and has passed them along to North Korea.

When asked if this evidence of Pakistan's illicit nuclear trade with North Korea has been brought to the notice of NSG nations, US sources said all proof and evidence which confirms the violation of sanctions against North Korea and more so the ongoing dangerous nuclear trade has been brought to the notice of "those who need to be informed at the NSG level."

Behind the scenes Pakistan is aware that it's nuclear trade with North Korea has been uncovered, but is counting on China to keep the global pressure at bay, said sources.

Giving details of North Korea's nuclear commerce links with Pakistan, informed sources mentioned that two North Korean diplomats - Kim Yong Choi and Jang Yong Son - posted in the North Korean Embassy in Tehran visited Pakistan eight times between 2012 and 2015. They were associated With the Korea Mining Development Trading Corporation ( KOMID ) - an entity sanctioned several times by the United Nations Security Council since 2005 for its involvement in North Korea's Weapons of Mass Destruction ( WMD ) programme.

These diplomats met with Pakistani officers involved in the nuclear program. They were tracked and investigated by the Western authorities as yet another proof of Pakistan's continuing nuclear links with North Korea.

Based on Western inputs on these links, the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) 1718 Committee, which is monitoring the implementation of sanctions against North Korea, sought information from Pakistan in November 2015 regarding the frequent visits of the two North Korean diplomats from Tehran to Islamabad and Karachi.

At first, say informed sources, Pakistan denied it, but when confronted with photographs and other recorded evidence, Pakistan acknowledged that the two North Korean officials under investigation had indeed visited Islamabad and Karachi.

Highly placed sources said that the West has so far kept this information under wraps in recognition of Pakistan's value in the war against terror.

But now, when Pakistan has gone into overdrive to upset the equilibrium of the NSG, Western nations of the grouping are saying that Islamabad needs to "look at itself in the mirror " and ask "how can it run with the hare and hunt with the foxes", meaning it can't claim to fulfill the NSG's requirements, and at the same time, sell nuclear weapons materials to North Korea.