There is no profit earning Meta.

They aren't commies either. . .

I hope it's a yes majority.

First off human nature is to be greedy

I agree with your sentiments but goddamn the human nature argument pisses me off.

tfw i thought serious was discussion about the site and not a politics board

all that political shit flinging i missed. damn

It's mostly been Kinder bashing and Dustin being an arrogant fagg0t.

We should totally get rid of Lollipop men and women.

Children have the right to cross the road blithely without fear of getting run over. Anyone that disagrees is a disgusting victim blaming pig.

You need to post here more often.

No, because under this system citizens would have a say in how things are run, as opposed to being dependent on the whims of an insular ruling class.

That equals less power for the state, not more.

I see what you mean but I still disagree.

It's counter-intuitive, but part of the problem today with having this "ruling class" is the fact that the government is bloated and there are so many points-of-access. Extending such an advantage to the citizenry at large might seem remedial, but it'll only serve to confuse the whole thing.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't have a say in how things are run, I'm saying exactly what is and the way in which the government operates should be contracted.

we will work to increase public participation at every level of government

which expand the process of participatory democracy by directly including citizens in the decision-making process

 

I don't see the problem.

It'll just make the political system more convoluted and confusing. Direct democracy doesn't really work in large institutions - even something as small as a borough or district.

I don't see why people have to involve themselves in a system which needn't be so inclusive. Let citizens have their say, sure, let them vote, of course. But fuck, don't expand the government that much, just let people live their lives.

The way I think about it is that the best person to represent you is you. If you leave it that way you don't need representatives to be fully accountable in the first place.

There isn't anything wrong at first glace - I fully agree with the first statement - it just has the potential to allow the State to become even more bloated.

This was under "Grassroots Democracy":

Every human being deserves a say in the decisions that affect their lives and not be subject to the will of another. Therefore, we will work to increase public participation at every level of government and to ensure that our public representatives are fully accountable to the people who elect them. We will also work to create new types of political organizations which expand the process of participatory democracy by directly including citizens in the decision-making process.

What the fuck? Why not just leave them alone in the first place.

"I'm going to go into a politics major guys! No, not political science, I somehow think I can actually become a politician!"

And you "somehow" thing you can become an engineer, what's your point exactly? I don't see how my potential political aspirations necessarily mean I think I'm useful to society.

Scientist/engineer (soon to be)

So you did decide to switch from neuroscience?

Does anyone still give a fuck?

Well I'm Hispanic so it's okay. Only whites can be racist......ask Jay!

Shut the fuck up, Zimmerman.

You murdered that poor TV-dinner-tray Marcus.

Oh....

They're both basketball players, tall, and black so I didn't know lol

Oh my God.

Now he thinks blacks all look alike.

It's actually been rather nice these past few days of not having them around

Don't get complacent.

I've been watching. . . Waiting.