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12781
« on: September 21, 2014, 08:01:02 PM »
I think you need to go to bed because you have school tomorrow and sleep deprivation fucks you over.
No, I'm fine. I only usually get four hours' sleep a night.
So, go ahead. I'm still waiting for you to point out where I said science is funded primarily by savings.
I disengaged from serious discussion when I called you angsty. I mean the whole thread you sort of missed the point that I was advocating capitalism, yet you still argued with me over the whole thing.
I got that you were suddenly sympathetic to capitalism, my annoyance lies in your repeated asking of questions which I had answered simply. I wasn't arguing with you. I answered your query as I understood it and you kept questioning me. Would massive redistribution of wealth hurt scientific advances? That was your question, essentially, was it not?
12782
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:57:55 PM »
Okay. I just attempted to be civil with you. It didn't work. I'll just leave this here because it is the only thing your simple mind will ever understand:
You didn't attempt to be civil with me at all, you arrogant fuck. I challenged your wild, hare-brained assumptions and you just immediately brought up the one time I called you horrible FOR SAYING SOMEBODY WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS SHOULD BE EXECUTED. How are you this dense? I wasn't even vaguely uncivil with you, either. It seems your only problem is that you couldn't properly answer for your claims.
12783
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:54:56 PM »
I think you need to go to bed because you have school tomorrow and sleep deprivation fucks you over.
No, I'm fine. I only usually get four hours' sleep a night. So, go ahead. I'm still waiting for you to point out where I said science is funded primarily by savings.
12784
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:53:28 PM »
No. I do not want to argue like this in quote storms. It always leads me into a ban. I'm referring to the time you said I was a horrible person before my big one year ban happened on Bungie.net You called for the execution of somebody who acted in the grip of mental illness. That's pretty horrible. You know, if you have trouble understanding the thread, just go. I'm not a teacher. I'm not expecting anyone here to understand any of it, I'm just sharing what I wrote over a year ago with like minded individuals that believe it or not were ALL male.
I forgot that The Flood isn't very like minded.
I'm not having any trouble understanding the thread at all. My problem lies in how you're making this godawful connections. Yes, women are often the victims of violence, particularly in barbaric countries and it's a fucking tragedy. What I don't understand is how you make the jump that all men should be responsible for this or how you make the even further jump that most men are like this.
12785
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:50:28 PM »
I just like to sit and watch how right wing economists like to talk about technological innovation even though a super high majority of technologists, scientists, and engineers are leftists who generally don't do their job for a cash reward beyond the need to care for their family, but because they legitimately want a better world.
What does that have to do with anything at all? Like, seriously. . . I really don't understand what the financial and social preferences of engineers and scientists has to do with this. Being a leftist doesn't have a monopoly on wanting to see a better world, either.
12786
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:48:00 PM »
I'm going a step further actually. I'm blaming our entire sex, even if it was outside of civilization and in caves.
Our gender is very barbaric in many cases. I'm not saying that we are all like this, what I'm saying is that the majority of males are like this. Just really think about it for a good long while. Think about almost every type of crime that has happened, and look at the majority verses the minority.
What the fuck are you talking about? Just because the majority of psychopaths are male, it doesn't entail that the majority of males are psychopaths.
12787
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:45:29 PM »
I'm not because I'm not the horrible person that you claim I am. Talk about jumping to conclusions. I didn't once call you horrible. What this thread is pretty much saying is if you run into a feminazi, find out why they're a feminazi first and set it an example that we're not all fucking monsters. The fact that you're self-identifying as a feminazi is disgusting in itself, and doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. Take your time to read the fucking thing. Seriously, all you do is just jump straight to conclusions.
I did. I even clicked the link.
12788
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:42:07 PM »
In Meta's mind
Fuck you, don't even begin to think you can talk for me.
How angsty.
Not really. It's just funny how you're so patently arrogant and wrong. I'm not even sure where you got the idea that I said science is funded primarily by investment (assuming the sort of investment via the banking system).
12789
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:40:20 PM »
In Meta's mind
Fuck you, don't even begin to think you can talk for me.
12790
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:38:06 PM »
Says the guy that called me a horrible person for defending the rights of an innocent animal that got microwaved to death by fucked up individual that deserves a life sentence.
Oh, you mean the psychotic depressive woman who didn't know what she was doing.I'm surprised you even remember that; get a grip. If you want to make things better, a good place to start would be getting some sort of control over your sentiments. That way you won't be calling for the execution of the mentally unwell every time they commit some sort of unfortunate act. Wait a minute, what the fuck does this have to do with this male collective responsibility shit? Are you just looking for ways to get back at me for something which happened months ago?
12791
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:35:18 PM »
Who's steering where the technology evolution goes?
The consumers.
And rightfully so, they're doing a piss poor job of it.
I'd like to see you do better than the billions of people currently doing so.
12792
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:31:00 PM »
Fuck this bullshit.
I saw some scattered sentences like "the male gender needs to evolve".
Fuck you, don't lump me with these apes. Given the psychological disparities between men and women it's no surprise that shit like this is more common from men, but to act as if "we" need to do better is a fucking farce.
I'm not responsible for these people; they are responsible for themselves. I have no obligation to better them, and I resent the idea that some duty somehow falls on me to improve this.
12793
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:26:00 PM »
21 so it's harder to drink while in college so you're less likely to fuck up.
Can't tell if serious.
Alcohol fucks a lot of people up in college. Honestly, I am basing this around all the stories I've heard.
So? Take some fucking responsibility.
12794
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:17:05 PM »
21 so it's harder to drink while in college so you're less likely to fuck up.
Can't tell if serious.
12795
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:16:15 PM »
*sigh* Fuck you, it's like 1am. I think you're a bit disillusioned about the extraordinary wealth the planet has to offer. Yes it is bountiful, but mostly inaccessible. Most resources are in heavy demand, they're not just sitting around in a warehouse in some third world country. It's going to take a lot of technological advancement before we're able to start mining much of it. For now, we have a very limited amount, and the fact very little of it is being recycled doesn't help. So let me bridge the gap of understanding: you think we do have the resources to both improve the lives of the bottom AND further technological innovation, but you don't want to redistribute any of it because it would hurt the economy. Is that right or wrong? Essentially. I'd be opposed to heavy re-distribution because of the negative economic effects under any circumstances. By the way, here's what the USGS says about (for example) bauxite for aluminium: Bauxite resources are estimated to be 55 to 75 billion tons, in Africa (32%), Oceania (23%), South
America and the Caribbean (21%), Asia (18%), and elsewhere (6%). Domestic resources of bauxite are inadequate to meet long-term U.S. demand, but the United States and most other major aluminum-producing countries have essentially inexhaustible subeconomic resources of aluminum in materials other than bauxite. Demand fuels innovation more than anything else, as the demise of copper brought us silicon and the demise of oil will bring us other alternatives. You can have any sort of economy you want and still, to varying degrees, get innovation but you will never get it so good and so beautiful as in a market. How exactly would enabling more people to become highly skilled scientists and engineers decrease technological innovation granted the amount of resources available to society isn't an issue?
You're asking how redistribution - which would enable greater scientific education - would result in a lack of technological advancement? Liquidity. If economic activity stagnates, no innovation happens. It's just not possible. The wealthy help provide investment through funding R&D and everybody else helps through savings (which diminish the further down the socioeconomic scale you go, of course). Not to mention, when it comes to poverty (which is what redistribution should be about), redistribution of wealth need only be minimal if you stabilise the labour market.
12796
« on: September 21, 2014, 07:05:56 PM »
So I was sitting out on my porch about 2 hours ago and an anti-natalist just walked up to me and crawled all over me. It couldn't be more than 19 years old. I fed it some Youtube videos and looked around for it's immoral mother. After waiting around no mother showed, which was weird because immoral moms are usually trying to find their children in order to torture them. There were a couple other anti-natalists wishing they hadn't been born too. All I can assume is that the anti-natalists finally snapped and made their parents pay for their sins against humanity.
The anti-natalist is now lecturing my 3-year-old son about how evil I am, reciting the work of Arthur Schopenhauer practically Verbatim. I think I might keep him, as I've raised anti-natalists before. However, I could also let him loose and possibly let the suffering of the world get to him. I also have an efilist that came out to say "Hi" when it came up to me and they got along well.
What should I do Flood?
12797
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:48:32 PM »
NO. NO.
FUCK YOU.
WE AREN'T DOING THIS AGAIN!
12798
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:38:22 PM »
The SAT is a scam designed by the corporate hivemind to make us submissive, and you're playing right into their fucking game.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
12799
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:32:43 PM »
Mr P should move it to The Flood.
Or just lock it.
12800
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:28:49 PM »
Here's my motherfucking story: I would send you my story by PM, but I don't want to feel like I was hiding from it.
I've no doubt that some of you will already know that alongside depression, I'm also very probably afflicted with ASPD. Of course, being impulsive and antisocial is never really good from the perspective of other individuals, but it was usually the case that it wouldn't be much of a problem (although, there were a lot of instances where I made some serious transgressions). The problem, however, is that being depressive takes away the narcissism and adds to the antisocial side of things - essentially removing any reason to intentionally perform "good" actions.
The depression was in its infancy around mid-to-late November last year. It wasn't clear to others that I was slowly slipping into depression (as the OP demonstrates, it often remains hidden), but it was clear that I was getting more and more antisocial. I would consistently insult other individuals, make references to harming certain people and act in an aggressive and inconsiderate way to those close to me, passing it off as humour. Eventually, it became too much for my girlfriend. In January, she broke up with me; if it could be said that I was crawling towards the edge of the cliff, then she pushed me off. I don't blame her - while I kept her happy for the majority of the relationship, those last few months were unnecessarily difficult for her.
Over the next few months I spiraled into a crippling depression. Yet still, the others didn't notice. They knew I was upset, but it wasn't until a month ago that it became apparent just how badly. I had been speaking to a GP throughout these few months, but I had always downplayed things. It wasn't until Saturday, March 29, when I nearly ended my own life that those around me realised just what sort of state I was in.
My friends went to a teacher at college, who encouraged me to follow through with a referral to a psychologist, which I had acquired as a result of seeing the nurse about antisocial behaviour. It hasn't been a particularly descriptive story, but I don't know what more to say. I'm still depressed, I still have the urge to end my own life and I'm not sure how entirely to perceive it.
It wasn't because of my ex breaking up with me, although it certainly seemed like that from the outside. Even I had difficulty distinguishing it at times. But depression, most of the time, just is. If I had to say one good thing about it, it's that through the suicidality and the relationships that go through ups and downs, break ups and shake ups, developments and setbacks, you learn who you true friends are. And you come to know who you owe your life to.
The thing about depression is that it isn't sadness; the opposite is not a state of happiness. It is resignation, and the opposite is vitality. Depression takes the life out of life, and gives the world a haze through which you think you see clearly. Two words are simply needed when referring to depression, whether regarding yourself or somebody close to you: get help.
Don't wait around until you nearly throw yourself off the top of a carpark, because oftentimes you can't turn back from that point. Depression also makes you beta, and nobody wants that. But seriously, it's in your best interests to seek help if you ever feel that way.
12801
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:28:29 PM »
:^)
What the fuck is this?
12802
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:26:40 PM »
lol
12803
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:22:04 PM »
Funny, the unique spoon was useful for making a point.
But that's a fork...
Well fuck me.
12804
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:19:31 PM »
You can get married as young as 12 with parental consent, 16 without.
Shall we make the drinking age 16?
No. The age for marriage should be heightened to 18.
12805
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:14:43 PM »
18.
If you can serve, drive or get married then you can have a fucking drink.
12806
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:11:11 PM »
Funny, the unique spoon was useful for making a point.
12807
« on: September 21, 2014, 06:10:08 PM »
There's several reasons for the illegality of victimless crimes. Why imprisonment is the chosen punishment for some has to do with the determined severity of the crime. My question is "what victimless crime could possibly warrant a prison sentence?". Prisons are horrible places; essentially de facto insane asylums. The main reason of banning victimless crime is to deter what's known as secondary crime. Using drugs seems fine on its own, but it needs to be obtained which in turn creates a market for it and encourages people to grow, smuggle and deal it. Same argument could be made for watching child pornography, buying stolen goods and others. The legalisation of drugs allows for legitimate avenues of supply to open up, and the medicalisation of harder drugs allows for better monitoring and treatment of such issues. Addiction is a medical, not criminal issue, and drugs get their profitability from their illegality. Finally, there's the interest of society and the issues with determining what exactly is victimless, such as attempted crimes. The distinction between drug possession or assisted suicide and attempted murder is startling, even if both are victimless. The latter has a quite clear, intended, determined victim who, in essence, got lucky.
12808
« on: September 21, 2014, 05:32:49 PM »
I assume this is just about why victimless acts are illegal in general?
To a degree. I can understand fining or slapping community sentences on people who do things from littering to dealing drugs. I'm more concerned with stealing the liberty of those who do no direct harm to others, rather than the overall illegality of such acts.
12809
« on: September 21, 2014, 05:19:56 PM »
Because it is the most primary way we deal with most types of crime?
I can't tell if you missed the tone of the thread, or if you're just being facetious.
12810
« on: September 21, 2014, 04:49:22 PM »
What would you suggest society do instead?
Well, decriminalising a bunch of harmless behaviour would probably be a good start. As for socially undesirable behaviour (like dealing heroin or krokodil), a hefty fine would probably work.
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