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12421
« on: October 05, 2014, 11:27:28 AM »
Leviticus 19:15 - In righteousness thous shalt judge thy neighbour. John 7:24 - Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgement. 1 Corinthians 2:15 - But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 - For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 - Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?. I guess the Bible isn't big on continuity. Also, the fact that you call homosexuality a sin is disgusting enough in itself, whether or not man can judge his countrymen.
12422
« on: October 05, 2014, 11:24:11 AM »
Of course.
12423
« on: October 04, 2014, 05:06:46 PM »
WBC aren't fundamentalists. Does anyone believe that?(besides WBC themselves)
What else are they?
They're hypocrites and ignorant of their own beliefs. such should never considered fundamentalists.
The fundamentalists who protest against gays are ignorant of their scripture which protests against gays?
The bible teaches against Christians condemning others. Not supporting gay people is one thing, but actively harassing them and telling them they're gonna burn in hell is the exact opposite of what Christ teaches.
Corinthians 6:9: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind," Timothy 1:9-10: "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;" Jude 7-8: "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities." All from the New Testament. This is also to discount several mentions of God's wrath delivered until Sodom and Gomorrah.
12424
« on: October 04, 2014, 04:50:44 PM »
WBC aren't fundamentalists. Does anyone believe that?(besides WBC themselves)
What else are they?
They're hypocrites and ignorant of their own beliefs. such should never considered fundamentalists.
The fundamentalists who protest against gays are ignorant of their scripture which protests against gays?
12425
« on: October 04, 2014, 04:42:31 PM »
WBC aren't fundamentalists. Does anyone believe that?(besides WBC themselves)
What else are they?
12426
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:09:32 PM »
I love these
That doesn't answer my question.
12427
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:05:47 PM »
Yes, we know that these kids will get their candy back in the end. But the kids themselves don’t know it, and the betrayal they feel is heartbreakingly genuine. This is no way to treat children.
12428
« on: October 04, 2014, 01:08:34 PM »
Jesus loves you
Evidence to the contrary?
None
No other person would let themselves be tortured and killed to protect everybody else
Protect them from what, exactly? Jesus died for our sins, and yet we still apparently go to hell. Besides that, the notion of human sacrifice is barbarous and immoral of itself. I don't know how anybody can stand a religion practically founded on such a principle.
12429
« on: October 04, 2014, 01:06:30 PM »
Usually most religion's fundamentals preach very good things, its just how some people interpret and twist it to fit their needs, thats my problem. Political systems now a days are good examples of this, especially in the US.
Neither of you obviously read the OP in which the actual scriptural teachings preach some ridiculously and profoundly immoral things.
12430
« on: October 04, 2014, 06:23:03 AM »
I wasn't Christened (baptised) when I was born, so if I ever decide to get married I can't hold the ceremony in a Church of England building. There are, of course, many other avenues of possibility like fancy hotels, Methodist churches or a registry office. Unfortunately, none of these possibilities capture the aesthetic appeal of a national church.
So, my dilemma is to deal with it and hope my possible future-spouse will be okay with not having a ceremony in a CofE church (which would probably prove problematic to be honest) or I can technically join Christendom and be an apostate. While it would be, obviously, purely ceremonial and practical I'm not sure I like the idea of the Church considering me to be a follower.
What would you do?
12431
« on: October 04, 2014, 05:01:41 AM »
I went to two primary schools, one private and one State, both secular.
They taught the creation story (symbolically, not literally) as truth.
I even remember one occasion in the State school where the teacher said "We're all Christians, here, aren't we?" and began nodding her head. As I looked around, I was the only kid not nodding my head.
12432
« on: October 04, 2014, 04:08:54 AM »
Ooh, love me some Harris.
12433
« on: October 04, 2014, 03:24:20 AM »
I legit don't understand how you could have a problem with mother Theresa.i stopped reading there by the way.
She thought abortion was the biggest threat to peace on Earth. She supported Indira Gandhi. She didn't discriminate between people who could be cured or not, thought poverty and suffering brought people closer to religion, encouraged her sisters to rely largely on faith instead of medicine and forcefully baptised the dying. She also accepted stolen money from Charles Keating and refused to return it. To name but a few.
12434
« on: October 03, 2014, 04:04:54 PM »
The more we keeping pestering them, the more they will do this shit
Here's an idea: Tell the Middle-East to handle it's own damn issues
Or we could, I don't know, not leave the responsibility of stopping genocide to the most backwards, Islamic place on the planet.
12435
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:44:24 PM »
I'm confused by what you're trying to say here, it this a tie-in to your earlier thread on moral facts?
Why did you refer to antisemitism but leave out racism in general? Also cruelty to animals needs a bit more of a definition, as that could be twisted to saying eating meat, medical research and exterminating pests are immoral.
Anti-semitism, historically, has earned its exceptional status in comparison to other forms of racism out of sheer brutality. I'm not denying racism is, of itself, brutish also. In terms of animal cruelty - sadistic activities for mere pleasure, as opposed to some measurable social gain.
12436
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:40:42 PM »
Anti Semitism is bullshit, it's like Islamaphobia.
People criticise Israel and Islam so they make up these fancy words to get sympathy..
Anti-semitism =/= Anti-Zionism. Anti-semitism is a legitimate and nasty piece of racism. "Judeophobia", if such were a thing, would be bullshit.
12437
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:39:12 PM »
We really can't condemn them.
And why is that?
Spoiler I was parodying an unfortunately large number of secular liberals.
I don't know anyone who would even think or say that phrase regarding ISIS - UK thing?
Eh, I was pushing the envelope with ISIS. You generally find it with religion as a whole, particularly Islam though, as well as the contingent cultures associated with such groups. I'm sure a lot of liberals could and do condemn ISIS for the suffering they cause, but I imagine at least some of them would be queasy to do it on explicitly moral grounds.
12438
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:36:02 PM »
We really can't condemn them.
And why is that?
Spoiler I was parodying an unfortunately large number of secular liberals.
12439
« on: October 03, 2014, 03:32:35 PM »
We really can't condemn them.
Who are we to claim cultural superiority?
12440
« on: October 03, 2014, 02:48:01 PM »
All of these traits are simply indicative of a sort of "immoral" personality from the passively antisocial to the actively sadistic.
You could add a number of things to this list, but I think it's safe to say that these are some of the most particularly nasty personality traits. Although, I'd add cruelty to children to it.
12441
« on: October 03, 2014, 12:02:10 PM »
>piers morgan
12442
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:32:10 AM »
Aren't the fundamentalists of a religion a perfect example of said religion, since they follow it so closely?
Essentially. Like Mitt Romney being cornered into saying the Constitution takes primacy over scripture. The extent to which it's acceptable is the extent to which it isn't religious.
12443
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:30:22 AM »
And no that isn't a joke, even though that last bit sounds funny.
No, not at all. I agree. More out of inevitability than desire, but it certainly doesn't look as bleak as some people would have us believe.
12444
« on: October 03, 2014, 08:25:39 AM »
Anybody who advocates corporal punishment in schools is utterly ignorant of psychology and paediatrics.
12445
« on: October 02, 2014, 06:01:09 PM »
Well that wouldn't be very capitalist.
I'm surprised to find how true that statement actually is, to be honest.
12447
« on: October 02, 2014, 05:56:01 PM »
Seriously?
What.
The.
Hell.
12448
« on: October 02, 2014, 05:52:59 PM »
. . .
Yes.
12449
« on: October 02, 2014, 05:41:14 PM »
So I guess there are moral facts, but also some grey areas.
Oh, of course.
12450
« on: October 02, 2014, 05:37:58 PM »
Theres a reason these people are the way they are.
Well that's just axiomatic. Things and characteristics don't arise without a reason.
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