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12211
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:58:12 PM »
Digital. I have dozens of books on my tablet that I take everywhere. I'm not going to carry a dozen books around.
If you don't want to work for your reading, you don't deserve to read.
Yeah frack him for wanting to carry a half pound tablet instead of 45 books.
Why would he need to carry 45 books anyway?
He can carry the one he is currently reading.
I'm usually in the middle of reading 2-3 books at any given time.
That really isn't difficult to carry.
12212
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:51:04 PM »
Digital. I have dozens of books on my tablet that I take everywhere. I'm not going to carry a dozen books around.
If you don't want to work for your reading, you don't deserve to read.
12213
« on: October 08, 2014, 02:47:49 PM »
Physical.
Anybody who prefers digital should be shot.
12214
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:55:58 PM »
SOMEBODY CALL THE GUARDS!
THAT MAN MADE OFF WITH MY SWEETROLL!
12215
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:53:38 PM »
And property owners do know what they're doing?
12216
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:52:48 PM »
T4R. Spoiler Yes, I want this to be a serious discussion. And I mean a really serious impulse, to the point of prolonged fantasising and planning.
12217
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:51:54 PM »
Your philosophy teacher is correct.
People should be prosecuted for offending others?
Totally, it would make things interesting.
That offends me. Enjoy your 3-year prison sentence, scrub.
12218
« on: October 08, 2014, 01:36:54 PM »
Your philosophy teacher is correct.
People should be prosecuted for offending others?
12219
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:35:38 PM »
If you are all powerful, then how can you turn back time? How can you pause time? How can you make things out of nothing? How do you create yourself? How do you see everything that is going on?
There are theological answers to all of those questions. Not convincing, obviously, but I can't be bothered to run through them to be honest.
12220
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:21:29 PM »
the bombing of abortion clinics is irrelevant when discussing if God exists.
I see what you mean, but my argument is not that the bombing of abortion clinics has any bearing on God's existence. I'm saying the topic is worthy of discussion because of the consequences which result from people basing their actions on such a belief.
12221
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:16:44 PM »
Why even debate it?
Because so many people act as if it were true. And then we have schoolgirls being shot at and abortion clinics being bombed.
12222
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:13:49 PM »
inb4 F in course or however you faggy britbongs grade your courses
I missed out on an A for an essay because I called ISIS Muslims.
12223
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:10:20 PM »
Time is just a concept that humans invent
12224
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:07:35 PM »
Do you agree that omniscience/omnipotence defies the laws of physics?
Not in principle. Surely it depends on what the laws themselves are and what definition you're using for omniscience and omnipotent. In practice? Maybe, but you'll need to explain it to me how you reach that conclusion.
12225
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:06:11 PM »
I made a thread about this in Serious, but I figured I might as well shift it here too and remove all the political fluff.
Essentially, this teacher is very shouty and in your face naturally (she also teaches drama) and we got into quite a heated discussion today. She essentially advocated the idea that people who intend to offend others should be prosecuted. I found this deeply offensive (intellectually, not emotionally) and called her out on it.
She accused me of shouting at her and then said she wouldn't ever change her mind on the issue because she'd thought about it and decided it, and kept re-asserting her right to it. After we left the lesson, I saw her go into the faculty room and heard her say to my other philosophy teacher "I could've punched Ashton in the face during that lesson".
I'm fucking pissed off now.
Talk about shitty teachers.
12226
« on: October 08, 2014, 12:00:23 PM »
but not certain of the laws of physics?
. . . I am certain of the laws of physics.
12227
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:59:50 AM »
absolute certainty, which is virtually impossible to achieve,
Well existence is absolutely certain.
It's still subject to gradation. You can have idealists and materialists on the spectrum, with solipsists and eliminativists at the extreme. Then of course you have the nihilists who claim that existence lacks a qualitative valuing system, and therefore cannot be meaningful in any sense of the word.
12228
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:57:44 AM »
>tfw first
12229
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:56:08 AM »
Right, but not God himself. That's a pretty big jump to go from observing something you think God is responsible for, to claiming he exists/is responsible for that thing.
Not really. The things they apparently observe him doing necessitate some sort of omnipotent deity, and the nature of the things would seem to confirm his omni-benevolence. Adjudicating some actions are done by God isn't a huge leap because such actions could only be performed by such a being. I'm not saying they're correct by any measure, I'm just saying the Bible offers us some fairly testable ideas about God which can reasonably be falsified. I don't know why you'd resist this since, if anything, it aids in pointing out their delusion.
12230
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:53:50 AM »
Are you being sarcastic or are you not understanding that 2 + 2 = 4 is a principle, just as much as the laws of physics are? If you can't be certain of principles, then you can't be certain of 2 + 2 = 4.
. . . Dustin, what the fuck are you asking me? Yes, I'm certain 2+2=4 and yes I'm certain the Universe operates according to certain laws. What's the implication of your question? Of what consequence is it?
12231
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:47:01 AM »
But that's the thing about proving the existence of God - by definition, he is unobservable and undetectable. Your other examples rely on observation and/or detection.
That's not true at all. The Catholic Church claims to observe God's actions all of the time. A theistic deity is necessarily involved in the world, and the repercussions of its actions should be evident - especially in the case of Yahweh. My argument is that what we do observe about the Universe and our planet doesn't at all map on to what we should see.
12232
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:35:09 AM »
Dumb question.
God is supposedly timeless.
12233
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:33:43 AM »
If you are certain 2 + 2 = 4, then yes.
Obviously.
12234
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:33:20 AM »
You can never have positive proof of a negative.
Well that's just false.
Really? How can you have proof of a negative? What possible proof could exist that proves that God, in this case, doesn't exist?
Well first off you can't prove anything to an absolute degree of unwavering certainty. However, the idea that you can't prove a negative is just a pernicious falsehood, to be honest; sophistry. You can, with a bit of work, make any sentence a negative. In fact, "You can't prove a negative" is, in itself, a negative. Nonetheless, if John were to claim that there is a unicorn in the tool shed, I could reasonably falsify this claim. We could drain the loch to find the Loch Ness Monster. Negative claims are still claims. You can determine the likelihood of the Abrahamic God - being specific in his nature - by seeing how his supposed traits map out onto reality.
12235
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:26:00 AM »
Are you certain the laws of physics are correct, even if not complete?
What the hell kind of question is that? Am I certain the Universe operates according to certain principles?
12236
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:23:43 AM »
You can never have positive proof of a negative.
Well that's just false.
12237
« on: October 08, 2014, 11:23:17 AM »
Well Meta, are you certain that 2 + 2 = 4?
Yes because it is, by definition, correct. 1 is 1 because 1 equals 1.
12238
« on: October 08, 2014, 10:59:21 AM »
I don't really care. Lacking the reasons to believe is fairly equal consequentially to trying to proclaim certainty.
12239
« on: October 08, 2014, 10:53:38 AM »
Ben Affleck was promoting Gone Girl.
12240
« on: October 08, 2014, 10:50:27 AM »
I think so more and more.
It really infuriates me.
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