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Serious / Re: Study: Religious Extremism is the #1 cause of terrorism
« on: November 22, 2014, 10:19:23 AM »
fucking look at WWI: Millions of people died because some group killed a politician
To deny the religious aspect of the Great War is to misunderstand the war.

That is why they are called "Extremists"
. . .

Sorry, what?

10742
Serious / Re: Men wrongly convicted released after 39 years.
« on: November 22, 2014, 07:12:00 AM »
There's something seriously messed up with the police force.

It needs to be sorted.

10743
Serious / Re: Throwing chairs at judges
« on: November 22, 2014, 07:09:10 AM »
The punishment seems apt.

10744
That was utterly magnificent.

10745
The Flood / Re: Who wants a Nazified avatar?
« on: November 22, 2014, 03:21:40 AM »

pretty sure it's not that either

That's one of the funniest memes I've ever seen.

10746
Serious / Re: Study: Religious Extremism is the #1 cause of terrorism
« on: November 22, 2014, 03:17:05 AM »
fucking look at WWI: Millions of people died because some group killed a politician
To deny the religious aspect of the Great War is to misunderstand the war.

10747
Serious / Re: We live in an Employer world
« on: November 22, 2014, 03:12:29 AM »
Or you shut the fuck up, get some experience and move up the ladder.

Why are you trying to stand up for what is right, when it's invariably true that there are opportunities out there open for people willing to pursue them?

10748
Serious / Re: Study: Religious Extremism is the #1 cause of terrorism
« on: November 22, 2014, 03:07:57 AM »

Yeah, fuck religion.

No, screw extremists that take peaceful teaching and pervert it.
Fundamentalists can only be bad if the fundamentals themselves are bad.

I don't think the 78pc of British Muslims who quite seriously oppose freedom of speech are perverting their religion.

10749
Serious / Re: AMA about my opinions/beliefs
« on: November 22, 2014, 03:04:47 AM »
what/who is/are your favorite "classic" novel/author and why
Ooh, that's a tough question.

As a writer, probably Erich Remarque for All Quiet on the Western Front.

10750
Serious / Re: Are our most intelligent users liberal or conservative?
« on: November 21, 2014, 04:43:06 PM »
No one is gonna be con or lib all the way through, and the very definition and issues considered left or right will vary greatly from location to location.
See above:
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The point being that I'm placing more emphasis on philosophy/pragmatism than ideology/dogmatism. When I say conservative or liberal, I'm talking about incredibly broad and sweeping generalisations that encompass a person's attitude to a decent degree of accuracy.

I'm not asking for incredibly specific policy prescriptions, and I wouldn't immediately discontinue my identity as a conservative if I changed my mind and began supporting, say, a financial transaction tax.

10751
Serious / Re: Study: Religious Extremism is the #1 cause of terrorism
« on: November 21, 2014, 04:29:19 PM »
You mean it isn't poverty?

How could it not be poverty when the Pakistani middle-class have more terroristic tendencies, and when people from rich countries like Britain and Australia are drawn into these groups? How is it not poverty?

Yeah, fuck religion.

10752
Serious / Re: what the fuck, Rand Paul?
« on: November 21, 2014, 04:14:57 PM »
Marco Rubio will probably win the primaries, anyway.

10753
Damnit.

Stop reading my fucking diary.

10754
Serious / Re: Do you agree with Realpolitik?
« on: November 21, 2014, 03:48:28 PM »
Yes, how can one not?

It's like rejecting "might makes right" in ethics.

10755
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 03:04:48 PM »
But that's exactly what the Policy of Containment did. Had we allowed the Soviet Union to expand that would have allowed them to survive longer. Communism has to grow to survive.
I don't disagree with containment, per se, but the way we looked at the whole issue was wrong. Communism, at least in countries like Viet Nam, was actually Nationalism in disguise but we failed to see that with our Red Detecting Goggles on.


10756
YouTube

What's going on in h-

10757
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:55:38 PM »
The Soviet Union is gone isn't it?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, ey?
Yes we're all aware that the Soviet Union would have failed eventually but due to the US's efforts it shortened that time.
Not really, the U.S. was ridiculously militant during the Cold War.

It wasn't so much battling the monolithic communist enemy as it was waiting for it to wither and die, needlessly killing hundreds of thousands of drafted American kids in the meantime.

This is coming from a guy who supported action in Kosovo and Iraq.

10758
Serious / Re: Are our most intelligent users liberal or conservative?
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:52:52 PM »
Truly intelligent people don't limit themselves to a label or agree with everything that label entails.
The point being that I'm placing more emphasis on philosophy/pragmatism than ideology/dogmatism. When I say conservative or liberal, I'm talking about incredibly broad and sweeping generalisations that encompass a person's attitude to a decent degree of accuracy.

I'm not asking for incredibly specific policy prescriptions, and I wouldn't immediately discontinue my identity as a conservative if I changed my mind and began supporting, say, a financial transaction tax.

10759
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:50:26 PM »
The Soviet Union is gone isn't it?
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, ey?

10760
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:43:49 PM »
Kissinger was a fucking pig.
u w0t m8?

Kissinger was god
A god complicit in the war crimes of East Timor.
All in the name of defeating communism.
Which the U.S. never accomplished.

10761
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:38:28 PM »
Kissinger was a fucking pig.
u w0t m8?

Kissinger was god
A god complicit in the war crimes of East Timor.

10762
Serious / Re: George Kennan vs. Henry Kissinger
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:33:28 PM »
Kissinger was a fucking pig.

10763
Serious / Re: Are our most intelligent users liberal or conservative?
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:27:58 PM »
Liberals seem to lack common sense usually.
And conservatives can lack an appreciation for the counter-intuitive.

10764
Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:26:53 PM »

10765
>_>

Wait. You don't know?
Yes, I haven't ventured out of the Srs board for a few days.

I'm literally clueless as to anything other goings-on.

10766
Or is this something the administrative team is discreetly doing?

10767
The Flood / >tfw handguns are illegal
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:39:57 PM »

feels bad man

i'll never feel the thrilling grip of a big black glock in my hands

10768
Serious / Re: Utah Introduces Legislation to Bring Back Firing Squads
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:36:09 PM »
Except no matter what you do, you can't force a person to stop being a career criminal. As I pointed out the recidivism rate, around 40% of people stop committing crime because they don't want to go back to jail or realize it's not worth it
You're confusing causation. Recidivism - or career criminalism - is high precisely because of the retributive focus of the justice system which results in institutionalisation, as well as dismissal of the shocking amount of prisoners who are mentally ill.

Like with the immigration argument, there's no mathematical necessity that 60pc of criminals are career criminals - that only exists in the shitty paradigm which perpetuates this behaviour through its restrictiveness.

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Serious / Re: Are our most intelligent users liberal or conservative?
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:33:16 PM »
>let me list the intelligent members of this forum
>not included


You're certainly one of the most intelligent, but I'm not sure how your legal expertise works into it >.>

I know you're quite clearly more socially liberal than I am, but I have no idea where your economic opinions lie (which I, admittedly, place a lot more emphasis on when considering somebody's "aggregate label".

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Serious / Re: Utah Introduces Legislation to Bring Back Firing Squads
« on: November 21, 2014, 01:27:32 PM »
To be fair, punishment is and will always be a part of the criminal sanctioning procedure. It should never be the main reason, but retribution or at least the feeling of justice being done is a part of the mourning/moving on process of many victims.
Oh, of course, I've no doubt that fines and the like have the capacity to discourage certain behaviours. However, when you start playing with the big dogs like murder, battery, rape, theft, et cetera, that's when things like mental illness start entering the situation.

When we're talking about prison-worthy crimes, then the justice system absolutely needs to shift towards (primarily) victim restoration and (secondarily) criminal rehabilitation. Of course, being incarcerated will always be considered a sort of punishment, whatever form it takes, but like you say it absolutely shouldn't be the focal point.

Retribution can certainly be important for restoration, too, but I'd argue we need something of a social paradigm shift to not see justice as retribution, but to realise that society isn't atomistic and that justice, properly constituted, involves reaching the best social outcomes.

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