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10291
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:27:21 PM »
So, should we eradicate Islam?
I think so, yes. But I think all religion should be eradicated. Not necessarily in a jingoistic murika way, but we should certainly be enjoying a shift towards secularism right now - which we aren't. If you're asking whether we're at war with Islam, not at war with terror? Then yes, we are. Should we actively destroy Islam? No. If that's an auxiliary effect to the fight against fundamentalists - then so be it.
10292
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:24:03 PM »
If they wanted it then they would have received it
So your argument against establishing a rehabilitative structure is that it currently doesn't work. I'm sorry, and I don't want to offend, but I genuinely think you don't understand what you're talking about.
10293
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:22:17 PM »
Doesn't change the fact.
Of course not. I'm just saying their existence doesn't negate the idea that we absolutely should focus on Islam and we absolutely should focus on the Middle East. Fundamentalism in places like France and my country are but a chip in the boulder.
10294
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:20:32 PM »
If we could do it, then absolutely.
10295
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:19:46 PM »
The only thing that needs to change is more emphasis on punishment, such as 24/7 solitary confinement for murderers, gang members, and rapists
Because there's nothing like helping the probably mentally ill with utterly no human contact, right! Yeah, no. You rehabilitate those you can, and you keep the seriously mentally ill apart from society. Prisons, in their current form, shouldn't exist any longer.
10296
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:16:47 PM »
You DO realize there are non-Islamic terrorists
And most of them small and irrelevant. Even then, they're either religious or nationalist. All part of the same cancer, really, it just so happens that Islam is the most conducive to fundamentalism.
10297
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:14:34 PM »
You bomb a village to kill 5 jihadis, you kill 5 civilians in the process and that's five more families that will send their sons to fight the west.
That's not as important as the economic incentives at play. I think the true zealots - the absolutely rabid, fanatical, let's-establish-a-totalitarian-caliphate - are part of a relatively small power-bloc. It just so happens that organisations like the Taliban pay well - like, really well. Better than the ANP or the ANA in Afghanistan.
10298
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:12:41 PM »
Are we eradicating terrorism, or Islam in general? Separating the two is difficult.
I don't believe so - but again, we've had this debate about twenty times in this forum.
It isn't my fault you refuse to accept the truth.
10299
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:11:53 PM »
A couple nukes in the East might do the trick just like it did to Japan.
And this is the part where I distance myself from your position.
10300
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:10:35 PM »
Are we eradicating terrorism, or Islam in general? Separating the two is difficult.
10301
« on: December 10, 2014, 03:00:24 PM »
You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organization
If beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else
You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisons
Which is all indicative of a problem in the current system. All the more reason for restoration and rehabilitation, not retribution.
10302
« on: December 10, 2014, 02:46:47 PM »
If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative.
Sorry, but you're just talking out your ass now.
10303
« on: December 10, 2014, 01:40:56 PM »
I think I'd honestly fit better around Hobbes (if I were to seriously take the test) but I have no idea what his philosophies are.
This is Dustin btw, not Harlow.
Hobbes essentially created the idea of a social contract. He said, in order to avoid the simple, barbaric state of nature, people would contractually agree to a civil society in which the government has total sovereign authority. He basically supported the absolutism of government. In saying that, he did believe all men were equal, should be allowed to do whatever the law explicitly forbids, and states that the authority must be representative in some way - which is why I didn't make him an out-and-out totalitarian.
10304
« on: December 10, 2014, 01:37:35 PM »
Does right mean the freedom to manage a business however you want?
Yes. The further right, the more free-market.
10305
« on: December 10, 2014, 01:09:39 PM »
Right means movement and freedom,
We're talking solely in an economic context here. The horizontal axis is economics; the vertical, social.
10306
« on: December 10, 2014, 01:08:36 PM »
What's a right authoritarian?
Somebody who is right-wing, and authoritarian. authoritarian
ɔːˌθɒrɪˈtɛːrɪən/Submit
adjective
1.
favouring or enforcing strict obedience to authority.
10307
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:31:49 PM »
SHUT IT, COMMIE
10308
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:31:03 PM »
100% disagree.
Security doesn't have time for scruples. If the torture of children provides a net benefit for the fight against terrorism (it doesn't), then I support it (I don't). I'm not going to allow myself to be bogged down in emotion and sentimentalism.
10309
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:29:09 PM »
 This is what I've got so far, mostly based off my own bookcase. It'd be great if you challenged some of my listings, as well as added your own based on any philosophers you're familiar with. Spoiler Also, here is our collated political compass:  Azumarill was just between Icy and Verbatim, C stands for Comet and Kinder was just below Turkey.
10310
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:10:16 PM »
Someone has to do the dirty work.
Only if the dirty work is actually beneficial. I'd be fully in support of torture - even of children - if it were shown to work. I can even imagine some situations in which it'd be ethically legitimate to torture. However, torture in the way it's used today doesn't have moral legitimacy
10311
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:05:49 PM »
Yes.
I'd limit it to everybody except myself.
10312
« on: December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AM »
They're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.
Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminal
I didn't.
Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.
Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdf
Sophomore, thank-you very much
Has it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.
10313
« on: December 10, 2014, 02:09:22 AM »
No. Universities should be allowed to charge what they want.
The issue is one of credential inflation, not the necessity of higher education. Most of the universities in my country don't trust the highest grade you can possibly get at A-level to accurately communicate your ability.
And we also have a target of 50pc of school leavers going to uni.
Qualifications are too easy, too many people are going to university, and the universities are losing their institutional freedom.
10314
« on: December 10, 2014, 02:03:47 AM »
FUCK.
I will be promoted. It's just a matter of time.
You were in the top 5, if that means anything.
It does, actually.
10315
« on: December 10, 2014, 01:53:21 AM »
FUCK.
I will be promoted. It's just a matter of time.
10316
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:56:14 PM »
People who choose punishment over rehabilitation are petty, morally insane and, most reprehensibly, idiotic.
I don't care for such people.
10317
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:43:15 PM »
It would really depend what mood I was in.
I'm leaning yes.
10318
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:41:57 PM »
It's some heavy fucking stuff; really makes you think. Has anybody else seen it? What did you think? Does how you win matter? Or is it simply a case of realpolitik, and winning is the only end. I must admit I hesitate at the idea of genocide, even in the preservation of the human species. Is such an act justifiable? For those who don't know: Spoiler Ender plays what he believes is a simulation, but is actually the real battle. He ends up completely destroying the homeworld of the Formics - a race of insectoid aliens associated via hive-mind - and becoming depressed at his actions. I'm still trying to collate all of the information.
10319
« on: December 09, 2014, 02:11:42 PM »
Depends.
What position am I in to hit the switch? Is it just a random opportunity, or am I some sort of political leader?
Also, is it as if it never existed, or will the Internet just suddenly stop working for everybody?
10320
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:11:29 PM »
Your PM is about as bad as Bush. Increased tutti on for schools, cuts in education and retirement. Seriously, you can't be blind to these things.
That doesn't make him a fascist. Also, Bush increased government spending across the board, and it was the biggest increase since LBJ; the Dept. of Education saw a 165pc budget increase. In saying that, Labour also have a desire to bring down the deficit by the same year as the Tories. Both want the same thing, and yet neither will deliver. The cuts in spending are necessary, although they certainly could be handled better.
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