And, of course, the politically correct press try to brush them off as Nazis.

However:

What has startled politicians, though, is that many Pegida supporters are not extremists or neo-Nazis but middle-class office workers, parents and pensioners.

Looks like the problem isn't merely a British one.

kek

There was recently a poll of the electorate to place the main parties and their leaders on a left-right political spectrum. It doesn't look like a good reflection of our understanding of politics.

They were asked to go from zero (very left-wing) to ten (very right-wing). They placed the Conservative Party at 6.9, and fucking UKIP at 6.6. Nick Clegg apparently lies at 5.1 with his party - the Liberal Democrats - at 4.9.

And - worst of all - Labour, Ed Miliband and the Green Party are all hovering around the same place at 4.1. Interestingly, Prince Charles is apparently at 5.9.

Fucking retarded.

I'm posting this for a couple of reasons. First of all it's because a semi-debate in PSUs thread was hobbled by bad communication (probably on my part) and because this is something a lot of people tend not to know. Also, since it's more of a philosophical explanation than anything controversial or anything to be debated about, I figure I'll put it into the Flood for the sake of discussion value.

The first thing which is important to understand is that the two aren't fundamentally different positions on the same spectrum. For instance, you can be an atheist and an agnostic - as most people are. You can also be an agnostic and a theist.

The two differ in their foundations. Agnosticism is concerned with epistemology, and usually asserts that we don't know - and can go on to say we never will. Atheism is more to do with ontology and metaphysics, and is thus conerned with belief.

A lot of atheist are agnostics because they don't claim that God doesn't exist - they simply claim to not believe in a god. They say they don't know if God exists and thus lack faith. Making them both agnostics and atheists, however this position is configurated.

For theists, it can be much the same. A lot of theists aren't agnostics, and are instead fideists since they claim their belief in God through faith - although some certainly have faith while still being explicitly agnostic.

Hopefully that's cleared it up.

As with the Metalution, I just think it was something to get out of my system - y'know.

So fortunately my amokrunning is finished.

We will increase personal allowance to the level of full-time minimum wage earnings

We will abolish inheritance tax

We will set up a Treasury Commission to design a turnover tax to ensure big businesses pay a minimum floor rate of tax as a proportion of their UK turnover.

We will cut the foreign aid budget by £9bn pa, prioritising disaster relief and schemes which provide water and inoculation against preventable diseases.

Subject to academic performance we will remove tuition fees for students taking approved degrees in science, medicine, technology, engineering, maths on the condition that they live, work and pay tax in the UK for five years after the completion of their degrees. 

We will guarantee those who have served in the Armed Forces for a minimum of 12 years a job in the police force, prison service or border force

Veterans are to receive a Veterans’ Service Card to ensure they are fast tracked for mental health care and services, if needed

Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work)  when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years

There are many more but I just want an initial feel.

By fuckedd I mean drunk

Not on two beers either

Ama fagfets

Im RUNNING AMOK

50 spades of grey

a dead epileptic

see what happens fagget

His parents probably bully him enough without our help.

i fucken got u agen

ur so fucken gullable

IM RUNNING AMOK

And it burns ever so slightly, but it's tempered by the coolness of the toilet seat. It's a smooth drop, and yet your sphincter oscillates with the varying width and composition of the turd making its way to yonder pool of glory.

And when you wipe, it's clean as a whistle; no mudbutt.

Just beautiful.

I
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us—if at all—not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II
Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer—

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III
This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV
The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V
Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Brilliant.

Absolutely shrekt