Quote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?
I'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS.
> adds more complex armor system
Quote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?
Quote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.
Quote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 12:42:44 PM> adds more complex armor systemDoes that mean power armor is acting like what it does in the first two games? Which is you're basically a walking tank. Normal melee attacks do nothing to you along with small arms.
Quote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel.
Quote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel. stats have been replaced with a more fleshed out perk system which can be seen during the crafting segment video. Instead of putting X number of points into science before you can use a laser pistol, you'll have to have taken the tier 1 Science! PerkYour SPECIAL also has more weight on your attributes like sneak and barted nowIt's safe to assume you'll need certain charisma or perks like ladykiller to accomplish certain dialog options More numbers doesn't automatically mean it's a better system.
Quote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 07:37:51 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel. stats have been replaced with a more fleshed out perk system which can be seen during the crafting segment video. Instead of putting X number of points into science before you can use a laser pistol, you'll have to have taken the tier 1 Science! PerkYour SPECIAL also has more weight on your attributes like sneak and barted nowIt's safe to assume you'll need certain charisma or perks like ladykiller to accomplish certain dialog options More numbers doesn't automatically mean it's a better system.Care to link where Bethesda has said all of this regarding skills? Because from what I've heard they haven't said a word regarding this whole skills debacle.
Quote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 09:12:32 PMQuote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 07:37:51 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel. stats have been replaced with a more fleshed out perk system which can be seen during the crafting segment video. Instead of putting X number of points into science before you can use a laser pistol, you'll have to have taken the tier 1 Science! PerkYour SPECIAL also has more weight on your attributes like sneak and barted nowIt's safe to assume you'll need certain charisma or perks like ladykiller to accomplish certain dialog options More numbers doesn't automatically mean it's a better system.Care to link where Bethesda has said all of this regarding skills? Because from what I've heard they haven't said a word regarding this whole skills debacle.Did you watch the gameplay?
Quote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 09:13:22 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 09:12:32 PMQuote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 07:37:51 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel. stats have been replaced with a more fleshed out perk system which can be seen during the crafting segment video. Instead of putting X number of points into science before you can use a laser pistol, you'll have to have taken the tier 1 Science! PerkYour SPECIAL also has more weight on your attributes like sneak and barted nowIt's safe to assume you'll need certain charisma or perks like ladykiller to accomplish certain dialog options More numbers doesn't automatically mean it's a better system.Care to link where Bethesda has said all of this regarding skills? Because from what I've heard they haven't said a word regarding this whole skills debacle.Did you watch the gameplay?Sick turn around.
Quote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 09:13:22 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 09:12:32 PMQuote from: Tyger on June 19, 2015, 07:37:51 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 07:28:04 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 07:02:53 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 04:49:50 PMQuote from: LC on June 19, 2015, 01:45:25 PMI'm talking about the stats governed gameplay, speech checks, skill checks, et cetera. Fallout 4 has removed these and turned the gameplay into what is essentially an FPS. Can I get a source on those claims?Did you watch the gameplay?So lemme get this straight;You're taking what little gameplay we've seen so far, which has almost certainly been vetted so that no major story is plot is gathered, (e.g. the short chat with the man has been clearly cut out, while the conversation with Codsworth is hardly to going to be anything important that needs speech checks or skills required), and basing it solely off that?C'mon man, I thought you were better than this. I'll take back what I've said if you turn out to be right, but assuming they've removed the absolute core of Fallout from what little we've garnered so far is just insane. Closer to the mark with more gameplay preview to generate hype (and to respond to accusations such as this) will hopefully quell the doubts.Removal of stats means no speech or stat checks. If you've actually watched the gameplay (especially the power armor segment) you'll see that it basically plays like a shooter. Every conversation we've seen is a 4 choice dialogue wheel. stats have been replaced with a more fleshed out perk system which can be seen during the crafting segment video. Instead of putting X number of points into science before you can use a laser pistol, you'll have to have taken the tier 1 Science! PerkYour SPECIAL also has more weight on your attributes like sneak and barted nowIt's safe to assume you'll need certain charisma or perks like ladykiller to accomplish certain dialog options More numbers doesn't automatically mean it's a better system.Care to link where Bethesda has said all of this regarding skills? Because from what I've heard they haven't said a word regarding this whole skills debacle.Did you watch the gameplay?Yeah, it shows the removal of the skills screen and Tod gives lip service to perks without going into any detail and absolutely nothing on SPECIAL.
So why is it you guys think your liking shitty watered down games...
