Skipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.
Quote from: TurkTurkBangBang on November 13, 2016, 05:16:31 PMCurrent weight and estimated BF%?I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.BF?I weigh like 170 or 180, way too muchhopefully I can lose a good 30 pounds at least
Current weight and estimated BF%?I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.i can give you an extremely effective weight loss supplement, the best in the world. but Its dangerous and I don't know how mentally unstable you are. Wouldn't want your death on my hands smh
Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Quote from: clum clum on November 13, 2016, 07:22:48 PMSkipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.that makes sense, I wish I would've known about that months ago tholuckily that's not what atkins is
Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 07:02:18 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PMmore like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thingeven if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthyMind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.untrue, all that matters is realityif I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PMmore like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thingeven if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthyMind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thingeven if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 07:04:10 PMQuote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 07:02:18 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PMmore like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thingeven if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthyMind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.untrue, all that matters is realityif I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be contentChemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.
Quote from: Azendac on November 13, 2016, 08:03:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 07:04:10 PMQuote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 07:02:18 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PMmore like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thingeven if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthyMind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.untrue, all that matters is realityif I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be contentChemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.I don't care about endorphins, I care about how I lookno one wants a fat tall femboy
so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam
I prefer my women on the thicc side, you just need to start hormones.
Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 14, 2016, 12:04:38 PMClass we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levels
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:07:32 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 14, 2016, 12:04:38 PMClass we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormones
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 14, 2016, 12:10:17 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:07:32 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 14, 2016, 12:04:38 PMClass we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmaoso I should just give up and be fat is your advicewhat a piece of shit
Quote from: http://www.sep7agon.net on November 14, 2016, 06:56:08 AMso lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever famI need my face to thin out
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be fine
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 11:26:20 AMQuote from: http://www.sep7agon.net on November 14, 2016, 06:56:08 AMso lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever famI need my face to thin outwhat the fuck bro. what the fuck. is this some old school class memeing?show me specifically where you believe your face is too fat
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on that
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time tho
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:08:03 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an apeokay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren'tfat redistribution and working out helps but yeahit's one of those things you can't change
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an ape
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:15:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:11:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:08:03 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an apeokay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren'tfat redistribution and working out helps but yeahit's one of those things you can't changeso I'm fucked p muchI can't change my ugly face or disgusting body so I may as well get thin. That's one thing I can control. Everyone giving me shit itt because of it are idiotsprobably because what you're trying to do is unhealthyalso fat redistribution from the 'mones makes bone structure less obvious
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:11:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:08:03 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an apeokay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren'tfat redistribution and working out helps but yeahit's one of those things you can't changeso I'm fucked p muchI can't change my ugly face or disgusting body so I may as well get thin. That's one thing I can control. Everyone giving me shit itt because of it are idiots
Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:30:55 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:26:06 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:15:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:11:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:08:03 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an apeokay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren'tfat redistribution and working out helps but yeahit's one of those things you can't changeso I'm fucked p muchI can't change my ugly face or disgusting body so I may as well get thin. That's one thing I can control. Everyone giving me shit itt because of it are idiotsprobably because what you're trying to do is unhealthyalso fat redistribution from the 'mones makes bone structure less obviouswell what else am i supposed to dothere's nothing else I can dohormones dont change your musculature/skeleton, losing weight doesmusculature yesskeleton no
Quote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:26:06 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:15:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:11:00 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:08:03 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 03:06:34 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 02:30:05 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:22:20 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:19:59 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:18:07 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:16:37 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 12:13:50 PMQuote from: οΌΆο½ο½ο½ on November 14, 2016, 12:07:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:54:14 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMAnyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat. But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head. And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter whattell me about itI do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PMHahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyiyou likely have low testosterone levelsWell I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a daywtf okay thenjust use your drug money for hormonesit costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsulesnot comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at allit's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacycompared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking stealwtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollarsbut there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFSalso the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to goyou don't need FFSa buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be finethanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.Thanks for your time thoany time famif it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on thatnot reallysome people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an apeokay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren'tfat redistribution and working out helps but yeahit's one of those things you can't changeso I'm fucked p muchI can't change my ugly face or disgusting body so I may as well get thin. That's one thing I can control. Everyone giving me shit itt because of it are idiotsprobably because what you're trying to do is unhealthyalso fat redistribution from the 'mones makes bone structure less obviouswell what else am i supposed to dothere's nothing else I can dohormones dont change your musculature/skeleton, losing weight does
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