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Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PM

Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what

tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 13, 2016, 06:50:50 PM

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.

Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.

how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels

Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day

wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones

it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all

it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal

wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go

you don't need FFS
a buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be fine

thanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.

Thanks for your time tho

any time fam
if it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on that

not really

some people are built with perfect little bodies, I look like an ape

okay some people get lucky with bone structure but the reality is most aren't
fat redistribution and working out helps but yeah

it's one of those things you can't change

so I'm fucked p much

I can't change my ugly face or disgusting body so I may as well get thin. That's one thing I can control. Everyone giving me shit itt because of it are idiots

probably because what you're trying to do is unhealthy
also fat redistribution from the 'mones makes bone structure less obvious

well what else am i supposed to do

there's nothing else I can do

hormones dont change your musculature/skeleton, losing weight does

musculature yes
skeleton no

losing weight changes your musculature

hormones wont do anything about my freak body

no, hormones alter your muscle mass though doing it in conjunction with exercise/weight loss does result in more dramatic effects

buzzsaw it is

like is that an actual surgery?

Quote from: SecondClass on November 14, 2016, 03:42:19 PM

god I love life

all things considered you have it easier than a lot of other people as far as starting point goes

LOL
O
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not only did I lose the great coin flip of life™, I lost it so hard that it was made sure I had zero to one percent of transitioning convincingly

I'm tall as fuck, have mannish facial features, apparently have bad shoulders now, and in general just disgusting

I'll probably end up doing it anyway, cause it's that or kms pretty much. Best case scenario, I'm some freak's fetish, whatever. Better than nonexistence, only time will tell

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Quote from: Jive Turkey on November 14, 2016, 12:04:38 PM

Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.

I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.

You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao

Stop being a cunt.