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In your opinion what is the worse things humans have created



Me:  Nuclear,Biological or Chemical weapons.  The fact the someone across the world could wipe out millions of people with a push of a button.


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Biological weapons are probably the worst.


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shit how did I rank biological weapons above this?

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Intentionally it's probably biological/chemical weapons, like you said. They have the capacity to inflict virtually unimaginable levels of suffering onto humanity as a whole. However, unintentionally, I would say a nuclear catastrophe (not the bomb kind but the radiation kind). since it has the potential to inflict just as much horrific suffering but not only to humanity or certain other susceptible species but almost the entire biological population of the planet essentially causing another mass extinction.


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Also just to nitpick with the title OP

God made Man, Man made WMDs.

The devil is entirely innocent here, if anyone is responsible for Nukes/Mustard Gas/Plague bombs it's big G.


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Aha yes. It's time to break out my fedora and trench coat, complete with my authentic replica ceremonial samurai sword.

Hands down, the worst invention people ever made was currency.

Money plays to all the very worst things about people. Greed, selfishness, excess, you name it. If you care enough about money, you can do the most inhuman things to get more of it. Through our entire history since currency became a thing, in all of the bad choices, shit actions, and terrible things done, I would be willing to bet 100% that well over 90% of them were done in the name of money, by somebody.

And today, our world is so shit because of it. There's no decision made in the modern world if it doesn't net money over to somebody. You could invent a 100% clean emission engine, and build it so that it lasts a lifetime.

And no company would take it. Because there wouldn't be enough money in giving everybody an emission free engine that never breaks down.

Aha. But wait.

A company would take the engine. By asking you to hand the rights of that engine over to them for a very large sum of money in return. And then people sell out. Said company takes the design and puts it in their closet, and that's the end of that.

Money's been the underlying root and feeder of just about every shitty thing that's been done for a long time now. And it knows no limits or borders. Race, sex, religion, affiliation, motivation, it doesn't matter. They can all be bought out if the price is right.



 
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Intentionally it's probably biological/chemical weapons, like you said. They have the capacity to inflict virtually unimaginable levels of suffering onto humanity as a whole. However, unintentionally, I would say a nuclear catastrophe (not the bomb kind but the radiation kind). since it has the potential to inflict just as much horrific suffering but not only to humanity or certain other susceptible species but almost the entire biological population of the planet essentially causing another mass extinction.
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Also just to nitpick with the title OP

God made Man, Man made WMDs.

The devil is entirely innocent here, if anyone is responsible for Nukes/Mustard Gas/Plague bombs it's big G.
Not true

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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.


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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.
So humans are just evil


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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.
So humans are just evil
If you still believe in evil and good, then yeah, most things are evil. Humans? Some humans are evil at most times, other humans are only evil at certain times.

I'm sorry, what do you want me to say?


 
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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.

Reminder that rocks weren't an invention made by humans and therefore, yes, are not evil.

Xsean asked about the evilist, vilest thing we've invented. It's money. Hands down. It enables and helps spread shit actions. It coerces the ugly side of people out.

Why do you think the oil industry still exists and drags on when people could invest into researching and developing cleaner fuels and technology?

It's because those fucks at the top don't want to let all that money go. And by extension of their money, their power.


 
 
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Also just to nitpick with the title OP

God made Man, Man made WMDs.

The devil is entirely innocent here, if anyone is responsible for Nukes/Mustard Gas/Plague bombs it's big G.
Not true

until we find the light we've been living in darkness.
But it is though

Lucifer's only crime is not bowing down to mankind, he has absolutely nothing to do with the creation of WMDs. It's the evil in humans that allows us to think up that kind of loveliness. And who was it that gave us free will again?

gOD

therefore

God made WMDs


 
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You want some more examples here Desty? Let's take something simple.

You're handed a painting. It's not exactly the best painting, but none the less, it's a painting. Somebody put their time and effort into making it.

You are given a lighter and told that for 1 million dollars, if you torch the painting, you get the million.

How many people do you think would torch the painting in front of a briefcase full of bills? A lot.

Now. Let's say that the same scenario comes up, except that your reward for torching the painting is nothing.

Granted, a small portion of people would burn the painting just for the fuck of it. But a significantly higher portion wouldn't burn it. Add the money to it and what happens?

Suddenly there's very few people who wouldn't burn the painting. And even then, the number of people who wouldn't burn the painting for a million would decrease as the money value increased.
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Also just to nitpick with the title OP

God made Man, Man made WMDs.

The devil is entirely innocent here, if anyone is responsible for Nukes/Mustard Gas/Plague bombs it's big G.
Not true

until we find the light we've been living in darkness.
But it is though

Lucifer's only crime is not bowing down to mankind, he has absolutely nothing to do with the creation of WMDs. It's the evil in humans that allows us to think up that kind of loveliness. And who was it that gave us free will again?

gOD

therefore

God made WMDs
Lucifer staged a coup again god and though he was above him.  Only the 10 sins of man create terrible things.

We create weapons to sell to other country.  We gain alot of money. Money is greed and greed is a sins


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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.

Reminder that rocks weren't an invention made by humans and therefore, yes, are not evil.

Xsean asked about the evilist, vilest thing we've invented. It's money. Hands down. It enables and helps spread shit actions. It coerces the ugly side of people out.

Why do you think the oil industry still exists and drags on when people could invest into researching and developing cleaner fuels and technology?

It's because those fucks at the top don't want to let all that money go. And by extension of their money, their power.
What right do you have to force them to invest in cleaner fuels? I get that we all share the same Earth and want to make a brighter future, but do they? Do they have to? Is it really anyone's Earth? The world isn't black and white, war is always on, whether it has been announced or not, so if the "big companies" decided to bomb some countries, they probably could. You're living under the thought of everyone being rational and down-to-Earth, but that isn't necessarily true. Safety doesn't exist, even if you're the most secure country on the planet. Safety and a thought for the future of humanity doesn't exist outside of the heads of those who think about that stuff.

They could care less or more about humanity, but where they are they're probably content. If they want to keep on gathering resources and money, whilst destroying the Earth, then who are you to stop them? Do you have the ability? Potential doesn't matter, actions do, and the big companies are very capable. If nobody is gonna stop them, and I mean stop them, not protest or make angry blog posts, then there's no reason for them to stop what they're doing if that's what they want. In the end the one who does an action has done that action. The intention behind it doesn't matter, and if you want to stop them from continuing that action you have to stop them from doing that action. Maybe you can convince them in several ways, or maybe you can do it by force, but in the end if they stop doing the action they've stopped.


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You want some more examples here Desty? Let's take something simple.

You're handed a painting. It's not exactly the best painting, but none the less, it's a painting. Somebody put their time and effort into making it.

You are given a lighter and told that for 1 million dollars, if you torch the painting, you get the million.

How many people do you think would torch the painting in front of a briefcase full of bills? A lot.

Now. Let's say that the same scenario comes up, except that your reward for torching the painting is nothing.

Granted, a small portion of people would burn the painting just for the fuck of it. But a significantly higher portion wouldn't burn it. Add the money to it and what happens?

Suddenly there's very few people who wouldn't burn the painting. And even then, the number of people who wouldn't burn the painting for a million would decrease as the money value increased.
Yeah? Add anything of gain, and they'll burn the useless painting down. If there are no consequences, then people would burn it down just for the lighter. If there were consequences like the artist feeling down because of your action, you wouldn't do it because you'd lose face, or the artist would literally want to remove your face, or cause any other damage to you. Add no such consequences, where these thoughts aren't in the back of your head, and most people would burn it down for the lighter.


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Also just to nitpick with the title OP

God made Man, Man made WMDs.

The devil is entirely innocent here, if anyone is responsible for Nukes/Mustard Gas/Plague bombs it's big G.
Not true

until we find the light we've been living in darkness.
But it is though

Lucifer's only crime is not bowing down to mankind, he has absolutely nothing to do with the creation of WMDs. It's the evil in humans that allows us to think up that kind of loveliness. And who was it that gave us free will again?

gOD

therefore

God made WMDs
Lucifer staged a coup again god and though he was above him.  Only the 10 sins of man create terrible things.

We create weapons to sell to other country.  We gain alot of money. Money is greed and greed is a sins
Not exactly, I mean he did but it wasn't because he thought he was better than gOD.

God made terrible things, he made something that can make even more terrible things.
Lucifer hasn't made anything, he spoke out against a tyrant and got slapped down.

Everyone does, some do, not really and yes it is.

Desiring more money than you need is greed, simply making money from something doesn't necessitate a sin.


 
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Reminder that rocks aren't evil just because humans can use them to kill other sentient beings with them. Also a reminder that most humans don't kill other sentient beings with rocks. It's not the tool that's evil, it's the user of the tool doing an evil action that's evil. In other words, it's not the money that's evil, it's the nature of human beings that's evil when put in a scenario where money exists.

If anything, you should dislike human beings forming cities or too large tribes, not money.

Reminder that rocks weren't an invention made by humans and therefore, yes, are not evil.

Xsean asked about the evilist, vilest thing we've invented. It's money. Hands down. It enables and helps spread shit actions. It coerces the ugly side of people out.

Why do you think the oil industry still exists and drags on when people could invest into researching and developing cleaner fuels and technology?

It's because those fucks at the top don't want to let all that money go. And by extension of their money, their power.
What right do you have to force them to invest in cleaner fuels? I get that we all share the same Earth and want to make a brighter future, but do they? Do they have to? Is it really anyone's Earth? The world isn't black and white, war is always on, whether it has been announced or not, so if the "big companies" decided to bomb some countries, they probably could. You're living under the thought of everyone being rational and down-to-Earth, but that isn't necessarily true. Safety doesn't exist, even if you're the most secure country on the planet. Safety and a thought for the future of humanity doesn't exist outside of the heads of those who think about that stuff.

They could care less or more about humanity, but where they are they're probably content. If they want to keep on gathering resources and money, whilst destroying the Earth, then who are you to stop them? Do you have the ability? Potential doesn't matter, actions do, and the big companies are very capable. If nobody is gonna stop them, and I mean stop them, not protest or make angry blog posts, then there's no reason for them to stop what they're doing if that's what they want. In the end the one who does an action has done that action. The intention behind it doesn't matter, and if you want to stop them from continuing that action you have to stop them from doing that action. Maybe you can convince them in several ways, or maybe you can do it by force, but in the end if they stop doing the action they've stopped.

I'm not going to delve into a long conversation train here. Because this is what makes for a long conversation. I don't have the energy or time for it anymore. But I'll speak my part and leave it be.

The irony of your statement of them being content.

You're factually wrong. There's a mental process that comes with making money in the amounts that those people do. It's the mental process of any successful big businessmen. In the business sense, climbing the ladder is good. Making more money is good. Continually stepping ahead and growing larger is the goal. And taking any steps backwards? That's a downgrade back towards where you came from.

So all they have is to keep moving forwards. Make more money. Grow larger. Expand. They're never content with what they have because they can always go higher. It's like a mental sickness. It poisons their head and warps their view of reality. They live in an utterly fake world because their entire life exists around arguably fake numbers that they can't stop raking in.

It's an addiction.

So what does that equate for the planet? Bad things. Because these are the people in charge of the world. And you can't say that they aren't. A big corporate investment in one direction can completely wipe out a country. Or fund a revolution. Or make a country with a new regime and another source of profit.

We live in a world with sick people in power.

And yes, you're absolutely right. They don't have to invest in clean technologies. They shouldn't be forced to. BUT. They shouldn't be in control. And again, you're right. If people want it to change, then they should make the effort to change it.

But that's the problem. The latest generations are passive. And do you know why? Because the society that's been built from having so much money, and therefore, power, are comfortable to live in.

Everywhere you look, at poor third world countries that don't have enough money, there's a desolate picture. And that's scary. What would happen if everybody rose up and abolished the bullshit in their home country? Why, they'd have to start over from scratch.

It's an understatment to say that it'd be a big fucking transition out of everybody's comfort zone.

So even society itself has been bought out and bribed, in a manner. And the truth is, most people aren't intelligent enough to understand that. Or maybe some are, but they can't handle it. It's too uncomfortable to confront. And so they don't care. They take it and they go along with it. Another day, another paycheck. More luxuries you can get with that paycheck. More goods and services provided for you in relative comfort.

And they'll all be given to you in exchange for your service to keeping the current system running as it is.

With such a compelling offer as if it really were from Satan himself, how could the average every day person refuse?

And more importantly, one person can't do it alone. People could passivel topple the entire system in a single day if they all worked together with a plan. But the system is so widespread and gloally interconnected now that the task of toppling it or changing it falls to human beings on global scale.

And yet most countries don't even have citizens that can get along with each other or very many people that can think intelligently and independantly. But the point is, the wrong people are in power. It needs to stop.

That's why as a genuine american citizen, I, Sandtrap, will vote for our new Messiah Donald Trump in November 2016.









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Look, I agree that jobs cause the oblivious Joe to ruin the Earth without realizing it, but when he does he also knows that if he shuts down the factory that produces not only CO2, but actual things people use in their everyday life, they're gonna have to deal with not having that thing. That thing could be something essential, or it could be something trivial like coke or snickers, and the effects would vary depending on the thing.

but even if the item has no effect, there'd be unemployment. If one goes against the stream, the stream kills it, but if all go against it at the same time they could stop the stream from flowing through. Right now our society is built upon individual companies working in synergy from time to time, and so if one dies nobody cares, but if all the companies in the world would make a plan that solves all problems that shutting down non-essential factories would cause, then there'd have to be communication going on. If it's on a blog, nobody's gonna listen, but if they are able to gather all of the big companies' attention, and convince them, and they'd all do it, then Kombaya, but that's highly unlikely, and who's gonna come up with the plan? Is that plan good for everyone? Is the plan solid, or could it be exploited by one company still choosing to covertly keep their power?


 
 
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