Quote from: IngloriousWho98 on December 02, 2015, 09:15:11 PM

But to do that would be to push it away and not address it at all

What happens in a 1OO years?

Will we continue to "ban" it?
Because that would just be like holding it over their heads for the rest of time

so what

we wouldn't need to "ban" it--people would just have the sense not to use it

it's really not a big deal
i don't cry over the fact that it's socially unacceptable to call people niggers

But not using it is still acknowledging that it still holds the implications that it once did

Would it not be more empowering to actually destroy the meaning of that word?

i'd like to point out that just because you don't personally find a slur offensive, that doesn't make it any less of a slur

i think that's the idea being perpetuated right now

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:20:19 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:15:31 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:14:03 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:12:14 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PM

Quote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM

"tranny" is a slur, fuckheads

Well it's not a very good one

Neither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinaman

And yet, there they are

LOL

did you seriously call "faggot" a slur

because it's not any more

tranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listed

Please, I'd love to hear how they can't.

Because those other derogatory terms are racist, and are much more stigmatized by our society.

Yes, probably because racism hasn't been accepted for a very long time. Homophobia has been accepted partially up until very recently, and transphobia is still HEAVILY predominant within society.

"Nigger" wasn't looked at as an evil word in 1920's because black people weren't seen as equals in the 1920's. Similarly, "tranny" is pretty common today because transgender/transsexual individuals are more commonly looked at as freaks and oddities than actual people.

I'm in the same boat as you though and none of this is an issue for me. It's a matter of you being too sensitive to what assholes think.

That "live and let live" attitude works a lot better when you don't have a statistical 1 in 12 chance of being murdered via hate crime

Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:20:44 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:18:27 PM

However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.

why

what if you're not using it in a negative context

why doesn't context matter when referring to him or her to third parties

Because that is a more open forum, and promotes racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/etc to other people. When you're only speaking to him or a group of individuals that he is comfortable with, then it's simply nothing greater than the usual type of ragging amongst friends taken to a more racey level. Talking in such a manner to another person, however, promotes nothing more than hate and bigotry.

If you call your friend "that idiot over there," it really only says that you have a good relationship and possibly some contempt for that person. If you call him "that faggot over there," it says something a bit more about how you think of any gay people. Saying it only to him says nothing about what you think about gay people as a whole unless you're saying it in an insulting way or if he has told you - rightfully so - that he's not okay with that word being used around him.

It's literally not promoting anything at all
Simply using a word does not say anything about your views on a subject
It's only that way because you and the rest of your SJW posse say it is

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:24:28 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:20:19 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:15:31 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:14:03 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:12:14 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:11:05 PM

Quote from: Essessen on December 02, 2015, 09:02:59 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 08:58:00 PM

"tranny" is a slur, fuckheads

Well it's not a very good one

Neither are paki, sandnigger, fagot, jap, or chinaman

And yet, there they are

LOL

did you seriously call "faggot" a slur

because it's not any more

tranny and faggot cannot compare to those other words you listed

Please, I'd love to hear how they can't.

Because those other derogatory terms are racist, and are much more stigmatized by our society.

Yes, probably because racism hasn't been accepted for a very long time. Homophobia has been accepted partially up until very recently, and transphobia is still HEAVILY predominant within society.

"Nigger" wasn't looked at as an evil word in 1920's because black people weren't seen as equals in the 1920's. Similarly, "tranny" is pretty common today because transgender/transsexual individuals are more commonly looked at as freaks and oddities than actual people.

I'm in the same boat as you though and none of this is an issue for me. It's a matter of you being too sensitive to what assholes think.

That "live and let live" attitude works a lot better when you don't have a statistical 1 in 12 chance of being murdered via hate crime

Why don't you move to a more... accepting area, then?

Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:22:30 PM

And yeah, I like MLP and would like to keep my penis thank you very much.

lol when will people learn that being a tranny =/= getting a sex change/crossdressing?

I'm probably one, but you don't see me running around trying to do something that can't be done

When will people like you learn that "tranny," as it is a slur, is incredibly non-descriptive and does just about nothing to describe someone besides "person that doesn't fit my definition of a cisgender individual"

Transvestite is the term that originated 'tranny' as it refers to men who dress in clothes typically meant for females and may try to fit the "look" in an overall sense as well - crossdressers, drag queens, etc. 'Tranny' originates as a slur from this because it is meant to refer to transgender/transsexual individuals as nothing more than a man dressing in women's clothing.

Transgender is a somewhat all-encompasing term for someone who is not cisgender. They may or may not have taken hormone replacement therapy (HRT), sexual reassignment surgery (SRS), and may simply be nothing more than a person who identifies as the opposing gender but has taken no steps to work towards that direction. It describes one's mental state more than one's physical state.

Transsexual refers to a person who has gone through all the steps - HRT, SRS, fully legalized as their identified gender, legally changed name, etc.

Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:22:30 PM

And yeah, I like MLP and would like to keep my penis thank you very much.

lol when will people learn that being a tranny =/= getting a sex change/crossdressing?

I'm probably one, but you don't see me running around trying to do something that can't be done

So what are you trying to tell me. That i'm a tranny but don't want to show it?

Faggot is a great insult, though. You're implying that they're only useful in place of firewood.

No, because that's a different word. Fagot with one "g".

Faggot with two "g"s is a slur.
[/quote]Actually, he's not wrong on that being the derivative - just wrong on everthing else.

Gathering sticks is meant to be a woman's work, traditionally, and the term "faggot" was applied to gay and/or effeminate men in order to compare them to women.

Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:25:21 PM

Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:22:30 PM

And yeah, I like MLP and would like to keep my penis thank you very much.

lol when will people learn that being a tranny =/= getting a sex change/crossdressing?

I'm probably one, but you don't see me running around trying to do something that can't be done

When will people like you learn that "tranny," as it is a slur, is incredibly non-descriptive and does just about nothing to describe someone besides "person that doesn't fit my definition of a cisgender individual"

Transvestite is the term that originated 'tranny' as it refers to men who dress in clothes typically meant for females and may try to fit the "look" in an overall sense as well - crossdressers, drag queens, etc. 'Tranny' originates as a slur from this because it is meant to refer to transgender/transsexual individuals as nothing more than a man dressing in women's clothing.

Transgender is a somewhat all-encompasing term for someone who is not cisgender. They may or may not have taken hormone replacement therapy (HRT), sexual reassignment surgery (SRS), and may simply be nothing more than a person who identifies as the opposing gender but has taken no steps to work towards that direction. It describes one's mental state more than one's physical state.

Transsexual refers to a person who has gone through all the steps - HRT, SRS, fully legalized as their identified gender, legally changed name, etc.

Why would someone go through all that effort to clarify what a non-cis person is? Sounds incredibly autistic.

This SJW logic boggles my mind.

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:24:53 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 02, 2015, 09:20:44 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:18:27 PM

However, even if he was fine with that, referring to him as-such to a third party would still be a terrible thing to do.

why

what if you're not using it in a negative context

why doesn't context matter when referring to him or her to third parties

Because that is a more open forum, and promotes racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/etc to other people. When you're only speaking to him or a group of individuals that he is comfortable with, then it's simply nothing greater than the usual type of ragging amongst friends taken to a more racey level. Talking in such a manner to another person, however, promotes nothing more than hate and bigotry.

If you call your friend "that idiot over there," it really only says that you have a good relationship and possibly some contempt for that person. If you call him "that faggot over there," it says something a bit more about how you think of any gay people. Saying it only to him says nothing about what you think about gay people as a whole unless you're saying it in an insulting way or if he has told you - rightfully so - that he's not okay with that word being used around him.

It's literally not promoting anything at all
Simply using a word does not say anything about your views on a subject
It's only that way because you and the rest of your SJW posse say it is

Okay, so, now you're just being an idiot. Are you seriously saying that the language you use doesn't represent the way you think about certain groups?

So saying "bitch" doesn't represent how a person might think about women? Saying "nigger" doesn't represent what a person might think about black people? Are you really that daft?

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:31:00 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:25:21 PM

Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:22:30 PM

And yeah, I like MLP and would like to keep my penis thank you very much.

lol when will people learn that being a tranny =/= getting a sex change/crossdressing?

I'm probably one, but you don't see me running around trying to do something that can't be done

When will people like you learn that "tranny," as it is a slur, is incredibly non-descriptive and does just about nothing to describe someone besides "person that doesn't fit my definition of a cisgender individual"

Transvestite is the term that originated 'tranny' as it refers to men who dress in clothes typically meant for females and may try to fit the "look" in an overall sense as well - crossdressers, drag queens, etc. 'Tranny' originates as a slur from this because it is meant to refer to transgender/transsexual individuals as nothing more than a man dressing in women's clothing.

Transgender is a somewhat all-encompasing term for someone who is not cisgender. They may or may not have taken hormone replacement therapy (HRT), sexual reassignment surgery (SRS), and may simply be nothing more than a person who identifies as the opposing gender but has taken no steps to work towards that direction. It describes one's mental state more than one's physical state.

Transsexual refers to a person who has gone through all the steps - HRT, SRS, fully legalized as their identified gender, legally changed name, etc.

Seriously, shut the fuck up. You have been whining about this for 4 pages, JUST LEAVE IT BE.

Sorry, fam, can't hear you with my cock stuffed down your throat

Quote from: KinderEssen on December 02, 2015, 09:33:39 PM

Quote from: Cindo on December 02, 2015, 09:31:00 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 02, 2015, 09:25:21 PM

Quote from: Pip on December 02, 2015, 09:22:30 PM

And yeah, I like MLP and would like to keep my penis thank you very much.

lol when will people learn that being a tranny =/= getting a sex change/crossdressing?

I'm probably one, but you don't see me running around trying to do something that can't be done

When will people like you learn that "tranny," as it is a slur, is incredibly non-descriptive and does just about nothing to describe someone besides "person that doesn't fit my definition of a cisgender individual"

Transvestite is the term that originated 'tranny' as it refers to men who dress in clothes typically meant for females and may try to fit the "look" in an overall sense as well - crossdressers, drag queens, etc. 'Tranny' originates as a slur from this because it is meant to refer to transgender/transsexual individuals as nothing more than a man dressing in women's clothing.

Transgender is a somewhat all-encompasing term for someone who is not cisgender. They may or may not have taken hormone replacement therapy (HRT), sexual reassignment surgery (SRS), and may simply be nothing more than a person who identifies as the opposing gender but has taken no steps to work towards that direction. It describes one's mental state more than one's physical state.

Transsexual refers to a person who has gone through all the steps - HRT, SRS, fully legalized as their identified gender, legally changed name, etc.

Why would someone go through all that effort to clarify what a non-cis person is? Sounds incredibly autistic.

This SJW logic boggles my mind.

"i hate language"

Seriously, why don't we just stop making synonyms and derivatives?

Hell, anything is an insult if you want it to be.

now you're catching on

cindy, how do you feel about the term "cissy"

cindy, how do you feel about the term "cissy"

I dunno, it's a stupid word used primarily by people who're more concerned with "getting back" than with explaining why words like tranny are offensive.

Same type of people that say "it's not my job to educate you," which I find to be one of the dumbest things you can say in response to a bigot.