Hey not relgious people, try this one on for size

PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:28:51 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elisa-medhus-md/channeling-erik-the-insid_b_804364.html

TB · July 05, 2015, 03:30:24 PM

What is so difficult in accepting that other people have different ideas than you?

Ásgeirr · July 05, 2015, 03:34:04 PM

lunatics

Elai · July 05, 2015, 03:34:29 PM

Any article that tries to tell me what the afterlife looks like without first proving the afterlife exists isn't worth reading. And anecdotal "evidence" isn't really evidence.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

Also,

YouTube

Plus, you basically just reduced your faith to an emotional crutch for people with issues. Nice work.

challengerX · July 05, 2015, 03:35:33 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · July 05, 2015, 03:35:34 PM

So... a grieving father suffers from delirium in his attempt to cope with the death of his son?

PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM

you guys have no faith.

DAS B00T x2 · July 05, 2015, 03:40:41 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM

you guys have no faith.

I don't.
With good enough personal reasons for me.

Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 03:42:05 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM

you guys have no faith.

and why should we have faith?

PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:42:51 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 05, 2015, 03:42:05 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM
you guys have no faith.
and why should we have faith?

I'm not saying you should or have to.

I'm just saying I feel bad for you if your outlook on life and the afterlife is as bleak as some of you here make it seem.

Korra · July 05, 2015, 03:44:25 PM

I pray to the hammer of Thor every night to protect me from the evil giants.

Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 03:44:42 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:42:51 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 05, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM
you guys have no faith.
and why should we have faith?

I'm not saying you should or have to.

I'm just saying I feel bad for you if your outlook on life and the afterlife is as bleak as some of you here make it seem.

the perceived absence of an afterlife doesnt necessarily beget a bleak outlook. if anything, it serves to emphasize the beauty of our impermanence, and gives greater meaning to the transient world

Flee · July 05, 2015, 03:47:20 PM

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PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM

Quote from: Flee on July 05, 2015, 03:47:20 PM

See, it's things like this that make people think you are a troll. You make threads calling out atheists because a bus burned down but a bible survived, claiming it's a miracle and proof of god's existence while every person with a basic understanding of science can explain this perfectly natural and common occurence.

Then, you somehow think you're making a point by referencing a book written by a woman who is either delusional as a result of grief, or who is a lying scammer making money out of fools who buy into such cheap stories because it fills a void they are too scared to address with logic and reason.

I personally have little to no esteem for religion and think it is no more valuable than fairy tales, but I am all in favor of living and letting live as long as it doesn't harm others. You are welcome to have these opinions and be a Christian, but do realise that it's things like this that make people think you are just a troll.

Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Jim · July 05, 2015, 03:50:23 PM

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gats · July 05, 2015, 03:50:33 PM

Hur durr religion
You know maybe you would have a better life if you completely focused on yourself and those around and not some book

ಠ_ಠ · July 05, 2015, 03:50:44 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM

Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Prove to me heaven is real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife is real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 03:51:15 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM

Quote from: Flee on July 05, 2015, 03:47:20 PM
See, it's things like this that make people think you are a troll. You make threads calling out atheists because a bus burned down but a bible survived, claiming it's a miracle and proof of god's existence while every person with a basic understanding of science can explain this perfectly natural and common occurence.

Then, you somehow think you're making a point by referencing a book written by a woman who is either delusional as a result of grief, or who is a lying scammer making money out of fools who buy into such cheap stories because it fills a void they are too scared to address with logic and reason.

I personally have little to no esteem for religion and think it is no more valuable than fairy tales, but I am all in favor of living and letting live as long as it doesn't harm others. You are welcome to have these opinions and be a Christian, but do realise that it's things like this that make people think you are just a troll.

Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

traditionally, the burden of proof lies with whomever posits a claim, not those who are skeptical of the claim.

for example: i believe that the dinosaurs were actually aliens who left earth and now live on a planet orbiting sirius. does the burden of proof here lie with me, or with the people who say "thats fucking dumb?"

PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:51:32 PM

Quote from: guts on July 05, 2015, 03:50:33 PM

Hur durr religion
You know maybe you would have a better life if you completely focused on yourself and those around and not some book

That would make me a selfish asshat like most of you are on here.

My family and God comes before myself in all aspects of my life.

challengerX · July 05, 2015, 03:52:01 PM

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PSU · July 05, 2015, 03:52:34 PM

Quote from: Nuka on July 05, 2015, 03:50:44 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.
Prove to me heaven is real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife is real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Can't prove it to you because you guys would just call me "delusional" or "crazy".

But I know its true for 100% fact from some experiences I've had.

Elai · July 05, 2015, 03:52:55 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM

Quote from: Flee on July 05, 2015, 03:47:20 PM
See, it's things like this that make people think you are a troll. You make threads calling out atheists because a bus burned down but a bible survived, claiming it's a miracle and proof of god's existence while every person with a basic understanding of science can explain this perfectly natural and common occurence.

Then, you somehow think you're making a point by referencing a book written by a woman who is either delusional as a result of grief, or who is a lying scammer making money out of fools who buy into such cheap stories because it fills a void they are too scared to address with logic and reason.

I personally have little to no esteem for religion and think it is no more valuable than fairy tales, but I am all in favor of living and letting live as long as it doesn't harm others. You are welcome to have these opinions and be a Christian, but do realise that it's things like this that make people think you are just a troll.

Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Do you not understand the sheer retardation in asking someone to prove a negative?

Unless you believe in literally EVERYTHING that cannot be proven (such as the infamous spaghetti monster in the sky), you're a hypocrite. And if you do believe in such nonsense, I'm 100% certain you're contradicting your beliefs about God, whatever they may be.

Which is fine, but you have to realise that you make no sense, and aren't really justified to argue in conversations where logic and reason are at play, because you don't play by those rules.

Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 03:53:06 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 03:52:01 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 05, 2015, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:42:51 PM
Quote from: Azumarill on July 05, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:36:11 PM
you guys have no faith.
and why should we have faith?

I'm not saying you should or have to.

I'm just saying I feel bad for you if your outlook on life and the afterlife is as bleak as some of you here make it seem.
the perceived absence of an afterlife doesnt necessarily beget a bleak outlook. if anything, it serves to emphasize the beauty of our impermanence, and gives greater meaning to the transient world
Fuck man how pretentious can you be.

excuse me?

Ásgeirr · July 05, 2015, 03:55:56 PM

dragons are real guis

i know for a fact from personal experience

but i cant tell you because you would call me delusional

Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 03:57:58 PM

Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:52:34 PM

Quote from: Nuka on July 05, 2015, 03:50:44 PM
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 03:49:24 PM
Prove to me heaven isn't real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife isn't real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.
Prove to me heaven is real.

Actually, just prove to me ANY afterlife is real.

Until then, you can call me a troll all you like. But you're wrong.

Can't prove it to you because you guys would just call me "delusional" or "crazy".

But I know its true for 100% fact from some experiences I've had.

this is an interesting response. before i parted ways with the church, i had a youth pastor who claimed that he had a supernatural experience that converted him to being a full-fledged believer. his story went that he was driving on the road one night, i think to another venue on his rodeo circuit, and that a "spirit" of sorts was suddenly in his passenger seat; he believed it to be a vision of Christ, and claimed that he could smell the blood from His wounds and physically feel His presence.

to this day, i believe that my old pastor is an earnest man, and that he legitimately did have some sort of odd experience. beyond that, i make no pretensions- but its certainly intriguing. theres a distinct possibility that he was very high, but again, i will make no remarks regarding that.

gats · July 05, 2015, 04:04:16 PM

Shrek is real too, prove me wrong

Jim · July 05, 2015, 04:08:17 PM

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Azumarill · July 05, 2015, 04:08:35 PM

Quote from: guts on July 05, 2015, 04:04:16 PM

Shrek is real too, prove me wrong

you say that, but i bet you wont start walking around in a swamp daring him to stop you

Flee · July 05, 2015, 04:12:24 PM

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Mmmmm Napalm · July 05, 2015, 05:34:17 PM

PSU stop. You're making Rocketman, HurtfulTurkey and I look bad.