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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:42:29 PM »
Seeing as that is not for the foreseeable future, when do you suggest we reopen?
When we have sustainable control of the virus via social distancing.
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I won't argue there but ignoring the rich and looking at the poor or hell even middle class, they are part of the economy too. Whether you think they're slaves to wages or whatever, their survival is tied to the economy as of right now so what do you think we should do about that?
Continue social distancing and until deaths and infection rates are controllable. What about this is so convoluted.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:32:06 PM »
What the fuck is your problem dude? Jesus Christ you're unbelievable.

Is lil wagie still talking? Don't worry, I'm sure the mouse will allow you those extra dollars for overtime. Massa mouse treats us goods. Wese a good slave for massa.
OH MY LAWWWD LAWD LAWD

WESE SORRY MASSA. DON'T DEDUCT ARE WAGES MASSA WE NEEDS IT TO SURVIVE

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:24:13 PM »
Define both "grotesquely excessive" and "just scraping by". Specifically however I want to know what you mean by "just scraping by"; what counts as making too little for you?

Tell me why CEOs deserve such grotesquely excessive salaries while their workers scrape by an existence and then I'll answer your question.
Is lil wagie still talking? Don't worry, I'm sure the mouse will allow you those extra dollars for overtime. Massa mouse treats us goods. Wese a good slave for massa.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 07:11:05 PM »
Tell me what is inherently wrong with a CEO making millions of dollars without using Reddit-tier soijack memes. Bonus points if you're able to bring up other positions on the corporate ladder instead of just the basic entry-level ones and their salaries as well.

>as he defends a multi millionaire CEO's salary

Y-yes massa mouse, the big bad rioters are the real problem. Please let me go back to being a 12 dollar an hour wage slave massa. I'll be a good boi massa, I'll generate your profits for you. Massa treats me good mmhmm.
Tell me why CEOs deserve such grotesquely excessive salaries while their workers scrape by an existence and then I'll answer your question.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:55:09 PM »
At what point do you think we're never going to get infected?
The point where we develop a a vaccine, if and when it's possible
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And what do you think the economy is?
Where the opulent rich get richer and those at the bottom get the shaft, as it has always been since the inception of capitalism.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:44:48 PM »
How's leather taste wagie?
and just say that I completely agree with him on not only Floyd's death but also the looting/rioting between mom & pop stores and big business stores.

I wouldn't know but I imagine it tastes about the same as the milk being squeezed out of the public teat that you so vehemently defend.
>as he defends a multi millionaire CEO's salary

Y-yes massa mouse, the big bad rioters are the real problem. Please let me go back to being a 12 dollar an hour wage slave massa. I'll be a good boi massa, I'll generate your profits for you. Massa treats me good mmhmm.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:08:38 PM »
One of these days you'll grow up.

How's leather taste wagie?

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:04:57 PM »
https://www.wthr.com/article/vermont-orders-walmart-target-stop-selling-non-essential-items-store
>No purchasing gardening supplies because growing your own produce is more dangerous than buying produce that has been coughed on by people who may have Covid-19.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/officials-paddleboarder-arrested-at-malibu-pier-for-flouting-state-stay-at-home-order/
>No paddleboarding in the ocean by yourself because you might infect the lifeguard with Covid-19.

>https://www.gameandfishmag.com/editorial/mixed-signals-on-fishing-during-covid-19-crisis/374430
>No fishing (a usually solitary hobby or one with minimal P2P contact) in Washington state.

>isolated incidences
>game and fucking fish mag

Go boomer somewhere else.
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It's funny that you say that considering:
1. European and Asian countries are starting to reopen slowly as well.

Yup. And South Korea saw 40 new fresh covid cases as a result.

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2. American workers who weren't laid off (because small businesses with owners who are just scraping by can't survive an elongated lock down process) are furloughed as well (I was furloughed).

Congratulations. The UK and every other developed nation is paying 80% of workers wages. Leaving your own personal circumstances and anecdotes aside, what exactly is America doing to rectify this?

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3. You talk about "American capitalist greed" for wanting to go back to work yet some of the biggest corporations like Walmart, Amazon, and Target have been making money hand over fist due to this pandemic and the top richest people in the world only got more rich because of the pandemic (Link here).

What exactly is this refuting here? That corporate greed is excelling during one of the biggest collective human catastrophes since the Great depression? Yeah no fucking shit sherlock.

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4. This pandemic and it's lock down is sending millions of people into crippling poverty (Link here).
WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE ECONOMY

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:52:21 PM »
I'll only bring up the first three minutes or so because there's quite a bit in that video worth discussing and I'd rather not bite off more than I want to chew (even though I could), and just say that I completely agree with him on not only Floyd's death but also the looting/rioting between mom & pop stores and big business stores. However the one thing I keep seeing constantly for years now is the comparison between a CEOs salary and an hourly employee's wage and I really wish this comparison would just stop. There's a lot more involved than just those two numbers, not to mention the eight or so ranks between these two individuals and their salaries/job descriptions and none of the other details are ever brought up even though it would show a more complete picture on how a "big business" is run because it mostly certainly runs significantly different than a small business.

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Serious / Re: Justifying Riots
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:43:30 PM »
Fuck big businesses and fuck the pigs. Rest in power George Floyd.

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I said my peace Chrissy.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 05:21:49 PM »
If the US is doing so unbelievably poorly, how about you respond to the numbers Das brought up?

He posted a graph with no source and no verifiable confirmation. I have no reason to doubt the statistics but how can I contest something that is tantamount to a picture with no source to back it up?
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Or the fact that a good portion of the US numbers are from places with strict draconian lock down measures?

Would really appreciate a source on this that isn't a jpeg.
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Or are you going to ignore it and just make laughably false insinuations about 30 million unemployed people some more since that seems to be your biggest gripe.

This is more a US societal problem than it is a Covid problem. Your entire economy is predicated on a dog eat dog mentality that if the poor can't cut it then they're left on the scrap heap, even during a crisis which they have no control over. Every other developed nation has their workers on a furlough scheme because they recognise that saving lives takes precedent over capitalist greed and producitivity

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:55:54 PM »
>"Not locking down forever will be a disaster!"
>Japan did minimal at the wake of pandemic
>Everyone claims the country was going to become a disaster as well
>They handled the pandemic fine because of everything else other than their government response
>"Stay the FUCK home!"

Yeah, you sure showed me.

Le ebin 4channel greentext.

I ask again, what's this argument shattering point you seem to have arrived at here? The US population has proved time and time again that they lack the capability of putting safety before individual preferences throughout this crisis. Japan has not. Your comparisons are bogus.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:40:40 PM »
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll
Haha propaganda machine go brrrr
NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.
who mentioned trump?

The Chinese government deserves criticism.
I agree. But it's also possible to hold the opinion that China deserves its day in the ICJ and also condemn America's handling of the crisis. Its not a mutually exclusive concept.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:36:20 PM »
Next time pick a better example.
From your own article:

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But Japan’s version of “lockdown” – requests to avoid unnecessary outings, work from home and observe social distancing – came across as a timid response to a situation that risked spiraling out of control. The dispatch of two reusable masks to every household was met with derision, as people posted photographs on social media of the small, and in some cases dirty, “Abenomasks” – a play on the leader’s economic policy dubbed “Abenomics”.
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Abe’s performance throughout the crisis has been uneven, according to Tobias Harris, an expert on Japanese politics at Teneo consultancy. “I think he has struggled to stay ahead of events since the beginning, has not communicated effectively, and has been poorly served by his lieutenants.”
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The Abe administration has gained few political dividends for its response; instead, most plaudits have gone to the quiet determination shown by the public, armed with virus-challenging habits formed long before the pandemic.
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“I don’t think the falling number of infections is due to government policies,” said Ryuji Koike, the assistant director of Tokyo Medical and Dental university hospital. “I think it looks like Japan is doing well thanks to things that can’t be measured, like daily habits and ‘Japanese behaviour’.”
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Japan’s incremental exit from the state of emergency continues. Last week, Abe ended the measure in 39 prefectures, adding another three this week. Tokyo and four other prefectures could join them as early as Monday, according to media reports.

You're wrong, and that's okay. Things will go back to normal before the end of the year, most people are finally starting to grow some common sense. In your own words: cope.
Lol, what exactly is your trump card here? You referenced Japan as a fuck up in regards to the governmental handling of the crisis, and yeah I would agree, but I also explained to you exactly why this is not an apt example due to the pre-existing societal norms of Japan's society. They dodged a bullet due to them already being extremely hygienic as a cultural practice way before the prospect of a pandemic was even plausible.

The comparison you're making here is like saying a poverty stricken fitness freak has lived to 80 whereas an obese hamplanet with all the medical care in the world has made it to 50.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:09:43 PM »
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll
Haha propaganda machine go brrrr
NOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRUMPERINO, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMERISHART GREAT AGAIN, THE BLEACHERINOS WERE SUPPOSED TO CURE US.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:06:33 PM »
It's funny how you bring up other nations, considering Japan has had no lock down, completely bungled their handling of the virus and they're not any worse off than most countries. Also could you please come up with new material other than forced soijack memes? You're getting awfully stale.

Flattening the curve does not mean a return to normality. It means that hospitals have the proper capacity to accommodate patients. South Korea and Ontario have reduced measures and recently seen a big spike in covid cases. If you think the end is in sight you haven't been paying attention.

I swear, America is a third world country with a Gucci belt. "100,000 deaths? Irrelevant, so long as I can CONSOOM product and move on to next CONSOOMABLE product."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/22/from-near-disaster-to-success-story-how-japan-has-tackled-coronavirus

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Masks are a common sight during the winter flu season, and in spring among people with hay fever. The custom of bowing rather than shaking hands or hugging, generally high standards of personal hygiene, and the removal of shoes when entering homes have all been held up as possible explanations for Japan’s low infection rate.

Next time pick a better example.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:02:14 PM »
besides, America is fucking huge. We were always going to have a raw death toll only surpassed by china.

But you look at statistics per capita and we're doing better than Sweden and Belgium and almost twice as good as the UK.
China isn't even in the top 10 in respect to death toll. Europe as a continent has a combined death toll pretty much on par with the US, a singular country. What is the comparison you're trying to make here?

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 03:00:33 PM »
Hair salons have been open since Mother's Day and Florida has not had an explosion of cases. We have been on the downward end of the curve for a while now and the point of the lock down was never to drop infection rates to zero; it was to "flatten the curve" as everyone likes to keep saying. So when are we going to get this massive explosion of new cases that's going to make the state of Florida look foolish? Another two weeks? Yeah, I haven't heard that one before.

Unless you have a magical Covid crystal ball, it's going to be very hard to determine that and if indeed you passed anything on to anyone.

I find it weird how people still think viruses are transmitted by sneezing directly into someone's face. You could have been asymptomatic and been a spreader just by walking within 6 feet of someone. Authorities didn't just invent social distancing because they wanted to fuck with your freedumbs.
Flattening the curve does not mean a return to normality. It means that hospitals have the proper capacity to accommodate patients. South Korea and Ontario have reduced measures and recently seen a big spike in covid cases. If you think the end is in sight you haven't been paying attention.

I swear, America is a third world country with a Gucci belt. "100,000 deaths? Irrelevant, so long as I can CONSOOM product and move on to next CONSOOMABLE product."

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 02:16:46 PM »
no, people are just supposed to drop dead when you walk within five feet of them, that's how it works
Le 100,000 death toll face.

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The Flood / Re: Covid lockdown status update
« on: May 27, 2020, 02:11:21 PM »
no ones 97 year old grandmother with terminal butt cancer and hasn't left her house in twenty years died because of my haircut.
Unless you have a magical Covid crystal ball, it's going to be very hard to determine that and if indeed you passed anything on to anyone.

I find it weird how people still think viruses are transmitted by sneezing directly into someone's face. You could have been asymptomatic and been a spreader just by walking within 6 feet of someone. Authorities didn't just invent social distancing because they wanted to fuck with your freedumbs.

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Serious / Self taught education vs Academia
« on: May 27, 2020, 01:49:47 PM »
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I've been contemplating this topic a lot lately. Partially due to having absolutely fuck all to do and a lot of discussion here about college enrolment.

My question here is; which holds more value? Personally, I hold a lot of contempt for academia as I wasted a good 3 years of my life after being pigeonholed in high school to do to a degree. But then again, it's also partially my fault for not staking out the territory more and taking my time to figure out which path I want to take.

I've also learned a lot more on the Internet and the sheer volume of information it holds than I ever have during my tenure at uni.

That's not to say that I don't think academia has absolutely no merit in society. Obviously qualifications are required to evidence your competency levels and the capacity to fulfil a specialised role. But does society place too much emphasis on a college degree? Can a person become an educated and intelligent individual without having to enrol into tertiary education?

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The Flood / Re: Anime fans, what is the appeal?
« on: May 27, 2020, 12:01:05 PM »
For what it's worth I also enjoyed Animatrix, but not entirely sure that counts considering the canon is based on a previously established western movie.

Plus I only really enjoyed 2 episodes; Second Renaissance part I and II.

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The Flood / Anime fans, what is the appeal?
« on: May 26, 2020, 08:04:04 PM »
Is it the art? The language? The concepts being put forward? I seriously cannot comprehend the fascination behind this art form.

I have given most of the so called revered series and movies a fair viewing and I cannot tolerate any of them for the life of me. The characterisation comes off as alien to me, and a lot of the dialogue choices are just bizarre. Maybe there's a translation disconnect between Japanese and English or maybe I'm just straight up missing something.

The only one I can find somewhat approachable is Akira, but apparently it's entry level pleb filter to most fans, or so I've heard.

What is it that you find so engaging?

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Serious / Re: What constitutes a narrative?
« on: May 26, 2020, 07:32:56 PM »
Gonna be the first brainlet here to fess up and admit I did not understand a good 60% of what you just wrote.

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The Flood / Re: Well, it’s been a few years?
« on: May 26, 2020, 08:45:51 AM »
Suh dude. I still have you on Facebook don't I?

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: May 25, 2020, 12:46:16 PM »
This cockwomble Cummings has somehow managed to rally Tory backbenchers, Labour, SNP, Piers Morgan, The Daily Mail, The Sun and the rest of the right wing press against Boris and his entourage.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: May 25, 2020, 10:38:50 AM »

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: May 22, 2020, 10:10:30 AM »
300,000 how?

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