I don't deny that there are good police officers in the force, but I believe we're starting to see more than a few bad apples begin to seriously abuse the position of power they're in. I'd say it's become a bit of an epidemic, in the US at least.

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Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 16, 2015, 05:53:19 AM

I'm sure Meta is going to bring out some autistic economic policy or historical fact that is somehow going to debunk what I said

Only where you blame the middle east's failings on imperialism.

I was more referring to Africa.

Even then.

Some parts of Africa didn't even have the wheel until the 1800s.

I'm no African historian, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it wasn't as fucked up back then as it is now, barring perhaps Egypt.

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Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 16, 2015, 05:53:19 AM

I can't really blame ourselves to be honest. I mean, on an evolutionary scale, we've only been here practically a minute. We're the first species on Earth to achieve such high levels of sapience in the span of that minute, and it really comes to no one's surprise when we abuse, misuse and ignore that intelligence. We're toddlers trying to take our first, disastrous steps.

I feel like I'm in the minority here when I say I don't hold such a pessimistic outlook on humanity. Sure, there are some really horrible despicable shit that goes on in the world, but we really aren't any different to other species on the planet, we just do that horrible despicable shit slightly better. I don't agree that we're getting worse, I actually think we're improving, and transcending our Darwinist biological imperatives. I mean shit, it wasn't that long ago we were sacrificing women based on the fact they were witches, and before that we were crucifying people because we didn't like what they had to say. And yeah, Africa and the Middle East still face those issues, but a lot of that can be chalked up to poor infrastructure, Imperialism, and perhaps religion. The Western World is far from perfect, but we're finally starting to see a genuine shift for the better, at least in my opinion.

I'm sure Meta is going to bring out some autistic economic policy or historical fact that is somehow going to debunk what I said, but still, I don't completely agree with the whole "woe is us, we're the worst species on the planet" rhetoric.

That's not so much what I'm talking about. I'm talking about, look at everything around us. The way we live, where we live. How ugly everything is.

It's certainly better than it was 200 and beyond years ago. I'm sure some Victorian orphan would like to dispute what you're saying.

Yeah, you're not understanding. You're looking at this from the wrong perspective.

I'm not talking about shit like how we used to have witch hunts a hundred years ago and we had no infrastructure and now we do so we're improving. We're not. Cities are disgusting. Our society is disgusting and pointless. We waste our time doing meaningless shit and we aren't really getting anywhere as a species.

A Victorian era orphan is irrelevant because we had already fucked up long before that, which is why we had that. I'm saying when we were far more primitive, we didn't make our habitats ugly and cut down forests, or got school and have jobs and all sorts of other meaningless shit we have today. From there it should have been a group effort in the technology and medicine sectors to improve our lives. Not live in some restrictive society where you waste away doing a whole lot of nothing all day.

That's where I have to strongly disagree with you there.

How many species can claim they eliminated a plethora of diseases? Have been to the moon and back? Have perfected air, land and sea travel? Have split the atom? Have created telecommunications and a range of technological wizardry?

Yeah, we have undoubtedly fucked up along the line, but give any species the intelligence evolution has bestowed upon us in such a miniscule period of time and I doubt they'd fare any better. I think you're seriously not giving credit where credit is due.

I can't really blame ourselves to be honest. I mean, on an evolutionary scale, we've only been here practically a minute. We're the first species on Earth to achieve such high levels of sapience in the span of that minute, and it really comes to no one's surprise when we abuse, misuse and ignore that intelligence. We're toddlers trying to take our first, disastrous steps.

I feel like I'm in the minority here when I say I don't hold such a pessimistic outlook on humanity. Sure, there are some really horrible despicable shit that goes on in the world, but we really aren't any different to other species on the planet, we just do that horrible despicable shit slightly better. I don't agree that we're getting worse, I actually think we're improving, and transcending our Darwinist biological imperatives. I mean shit, it wasn't that long ago we were sacrificing women based on the fact they were witches, and before that we were crucifying people because we didn't like what they had to say. And yeah, Africa and the Middle East still face those issues, but a lot of that can be chalked up to poor infrastructure, Imperialism, and perhaps religion. The Western World is far from perfect, but we're finally starting to see a genuine shift for the better, at least in my opinion.

I'm sure Meta is going to bring out some autistic economic policy or historical fact that is somehow going to debunk what I said, but still, I don't completely agree with the whole "woe is us, we're the worst species on the planet" rhetoric.

Quote from: Madman Mordo on January 15, 2015, 06:58:58 PM

I would only condone this kind of therapy in areas of society where sexual impulses can potentially inflict detriment and pain to other people. Namely paedophilia.

But it doesn't work. I mean, do this, and now you've got a bunch of angry and even more frightened pedophiles who are more likely to be a danger to themselves or others.

Perhaps I need to change my wording.

What I mean when I refer to reparative therapy is to help patients cope, and to a certain extent, mitigate particularly sexual feelings (pernicious or otherwise) that they have towards children. I would never condone full on brainwashing and lobotomies, or whatever would be considered ethically dubious medical practice.

I think we can both agree it's a better alternative to just locking them up and expecting them to magically stop feeling sexual towards children because they did time.

I would only condone this kind of therapy in areas of society where sexual impulses can potentially inflict detriment and pain to other people. Namely paedophilia.

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I would consider myself more libertarian these days, but it's hard to dispute that the American model of healthcare is absolutely pants on head retarded.

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nigga muslims are not an ethnic group

Religion falls under the official definition of Ethnic Cleansing even though they aren't actually an ethnicity.

You actually shouldn't use the term "ethnic cleansing". It's as if there's something that's "dirty" or wrong being cleansed. There isn't.

We as a society shouldn't adopt the terms of mass murderers.

Does it really matter what we call it? It's already been adopted and it's stuck, sorta like homophobia. We don't use it to describe people who fear gay people, but that's what we call them anyway.

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